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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:57 GMT
#1072
On January 18 2014 04:52 kushm4sta wrote:
Link to hopeless last scum game anyone?? Plz

Time to Die
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Hopeless1der&view=all
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 19:58 GMT
#1073
On January 18 2014 04:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard.

it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else?

If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc.

like I said I don't consider it a possibility to be the truth.

He'd be in this thread pointing it out himself if it was, kicking and screaming "don't lynch the doc!!" because he knows himself that noone took him serious.

and this is a town mentality to you?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 20:02 GMT
#1075
i mean you dont think fakeclaiming doc and being utterly useless, dodging discussions and ignoring pointed questions is scummy?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 20:12 GMT
#1078
what the fuck Toad....Is his behavior scummy or not? You didnt give a shit what sn0's history was when you said you caught so many scum based on the behavior he was exhibiting, now with Grack that history stuff matters?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 20:15 GMT
#1079
On January 18 2014 05:12 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
I told Toad there was no basis for his (meta?) read on sn0 since sn0 has never rolled scum. Using the reasoning that wishywashy statements come from scum doesn't apply to sn0 since in every town game he's played, he has similar statements. He pulls one post from WC2 when at MYLO (LYLO?) sn0 finally has to play (so did I if you remember correctly, it was my case sn0 was responding to) after days of information. There is again, no reasonable comparison to this game the way Toad has framed his case.

He goes on to say how I'm the only other player thats 'yellow/orange' on his sheet when we have Grack doing nothing, cephiro being afk. Toad is opportunistically trying to bandwagon on me and doesnt give a shit about pushing anyone because both me and sn0 are mislynch targets, and I was leading the votes.




skanjab is a weaker read but basically his case on sn0 was garbage and his followup explaining the way he makes his cases is using scummy and selective reasoning.


Could you elaborate on the "scummy and selective reasoning" thing, please?

"Look at these posts I quoted. They are scummy for Reason A. Therefore the player is scummy for Reason A.
NO!! Do not read those other posts that disagree with Reason A. They aren't important. Read the posts I quoted and only those posts. Those are the scummy ones. Read those. No guys stop looking at the entire filter. You only need to look at what I showed you. I clearly explained why the posts I quoted are scummy. That means that player is scummy. You don't need to know anything else."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 20:19 GMT
#1083
I'm referring to the rest of the things I listed, like dodging questions and ignoring discussion when prompted to respond.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 20:37 GMT
#1093
you can die after grack if thats what you want kush.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 20:51 GMT
#1117
On January 18 2014 05:50 kushm4sta wrote:
toad can you talk about non useless shit please?

why grack over hopeless?

because he doesnt give a shit. and I do. this is fairly elementary kush. Even for you this is sad.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 21:41 GMT
#1141
On January 18 2014 06:29 kushm4sta wrote:
hopeless claim?

You were the dumb sack of shit who called me antitown for "claiming vt".

Im a veteran. Sn0's perfect streak is on track to continue.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 21:56 GMT
#1155
Kush confirmed town and the stupidest player in this game. I never claimed vt. I claimed town. Learn to read
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 22:12 GMT
#1165
P.s. I'm afk and will be driving for thr next hour ish
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:00 GMT
#1210
No we have a vet claim and that's it. Unless grack wants to substantiate.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:08 GMT
#1221
## unvote
##vote koshi
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:17 GMT
#1233
I didn't think he'd actually follow up on his koshi read. Its also not a garbage read.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:18 GMT
#1236
You also can't really trust a damn thing I do right now since I'm about to die.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:20 GMT
#1239
Koshi is more likely to die than grack

Grack has demonstrated he can make reads. If he stops, lynch him. Meanwhile his case concerning bullshiting a Mig read and not caring about oats rings true to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:31 GMT
#1254
Fuck it

##unvote
##vote toadesstern


I probably wont be here at deadline to voteswap, especially quickly.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:35 GMT
#1261
On January 18 2014 08:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
more
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On November 23 2013 03:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 23 2013 03:18 Pandain wrote:
Also hopeless I thoroughly debunked your case in our mason chat

TAKE NOTES. THIS IS HOW YOU CLAIM SCUM. 5/5 WOULD LYNCH AGAIN.


pretty sure hopeless is more of an asshole as scum

##vote:hopeless1der

False, but unfortunately I lack the resources to dispute you before id be lynched.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2014 23:37 GMT
#1264
Meanwhile I was still on track to be lynched. Im headed back into the car, provably.won't get to post until after lynch

##unvote
##vote grackaroni
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 18 2014 01:12 GMT
#1357
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