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On January 18 2014 02:50 Koshi wrote:
I don't even know what he is saying. I read over that.
I understand it as I'm right with my idea but my conclusion is wrong because of some logic flaw and basicly says that it's one of either 1, 2 or 3 in my list which is correct and just deleted out as options by mistake. Actually he could also be saying that about the 4th one but I don't think he's calling himself mafia.
And when I read your answer it sounds like some guy who has some complex and makes it look like he's awesome and has an urge to post like he's awesome but just isn't. None of the above 4 options is awesome.
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On January 18 2014 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And then there is Toad who only does selective meta-analysis and even then he does it wrong.
Toad go look at Vayne's past games. Then come back and tell what you think. You were so eager to do so with Sn0 and kush and both were horrible, you can probably do horrible one on Vayne too.
I don't do meta analysis at all. That's the point, silly.
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What is the case against grack? Other than not being very active?
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And that's why i said half-arsed meta analysis. Because you give opinions based on people's past games and you do it terribly, like here:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 17 2014 11:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 10:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
Witchcraft 2. Sn0man was under suspicion the entire game. I skimmed his filter. I didn't see stuff that resembled posts like these: Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 09:39 Sn0_Man wrote:You know kush I'd accuse you of needing an easy target but thats really not how you play...  Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:10 Sn0_Man wrote:On January 17 2014 01:07 Skanjab1s wrote:Oh wow, rayn, you actually think I'm opting out of discussion? Really? On January 17 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ugh.. this is gonna be really hard to figure out because Skanjab1s made a terrible terrible case on yamato in Hogwarts aswell. As sad it is he could do this as town..  Making opening cases on people and then getting called scum for it is what I do, yo.On January 17 2014 01:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes I was intentionally lying skan, see my followup post.
I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol He can't. I mean, he's welcome to try, but it wont work. This sounds a lot like "I intentionally made a worthless case cuz its my town meta and I gotta match that". Which sounds a lot like scum :/ Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well I was starting to think that you might have just been trying to get the thread moving and fishing for responses, which would be quite understandable, but instead it seems that you actually think I'm scum or something.
Jeeeeez. Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 03:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
Soooooo I'm scum because of Diction and because my reaction to scummy posts from skan is a "gross face".
Sigh, I was hoping for a productive day 1.
At least Mig is here and playing finally. I believe that means everybody has posted at least once. I really have a hard time picturing a townie post like the above. I see posts like this (picked because of red letters and they stand out): Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 01:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
His case amounts to "I can write Sn0's name in big red letters that guy must be scum.
Everything else is drivel.
"Oh Sn0 wanted to lynch Syl over vanesco" guess what syl is scum
"Oh Sn0 got Onegu lynched" yeah sure whatever floats your boat. I offered meta reference. Onegu played scummy. Hopeless deliberately misconstrues me and uses emotionally charged language in an attempt to squelch logic regarding why Onegu actually died.
"Sn0 figures the D1 NK may have been a silver bullet" obviously this is a clear scumtell thank you for pointing this out Hopeless no town would ever consider such a thing. Trying to figure out the game is how i play tyvm.
"Sn0 gave me shit when I replaced in" please excuse me for poking people in a mafia game to see how they react.
"Sn0 dropped his scumread on Syl day 4" well somebody didn't read day 4 at all
Hopeless also attempts to garner towncred in the middle of this for last-voting onto vanesco after he's already been hammered for a while without any chance of any other lynch.
And feels the need to jump on me messing up names (onegu instead of vanesco watever).
Ok thats his whole case boiled down and somewhat in order (excepting the first point). in WC2 instead. That's completly different. It's way later in the game, I'll give you that but it's nowhere close to being as apologetically as in his responses to Mig/Me/Kush. Can you give me a name of a game where we was mafia? I know I should be searching that stuff myself and there's a handy trick about it with clicking someone's profile but I never read old games and always forget how to search for that stuff...
Explain to me what is the point of those 2 posts when they are clearly no value as you just said?
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It's fair to be honest. I've been actively unhelpful.
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I think it's "he would have gracked [ehehe] at this point and posted something serious as town because he has do, while as mafia he keeps on trolling no matter what and overplays stuff that way".
At least that's what I got from thrawn's assertion earlier on. No idea if it's true. Why do you all go for meta stuff instead of just scummy stuff that doesn't require meta...
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He's trolled the fuck out of this game. Half of it is that his filter isn't even like 1 or 2 pages. He's been here, and posting, and said exactly fucknothing. He self voted as soon as somebody voted him. He's playing actually disgustingly and while it doesn't actually scream scum theres no reason whatsoever to call it town either.
Even if I didn't think he is likely to flip scum (though he is), he deserves a policy lynch for his play.
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EBWOP: Apparently one of the quotes got lost:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 18 2014 01:07 Toadesstern wrote:so we have posts like + Show Spoiler [this from failgame] +On January 12 2014 00:44 kushm4sta wrote:jat, wos, maybe bh. So many people haven't said anything yet though. No idea if you are scummy marv, because you've done shit all in the thread. If you want a lazy policy lynch like captobv, there many posters with similarly little content. capt obv-tstbs I can't imagine a scum actually opening like capt obv, unless they were TRYING to look tooscummytobescum. And I don't think most people do that. oh wait i can see the future and i just know you are going to ask why for my scumreads... jat- the new site-wide scum meta is to defend kush, which he did immediately. he doesnt look super townie which he normally does Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:On January 11 2014 09:41 marvellosity wrote:On January 11 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:On January 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Make me mayor and I'll lynch kush d1.
/thread Why don't you wait and see how he plays first? What's with all the people deciding to policy lynch that early in the game without even considering the play of the person in question... Marv will you try to be elected? I'll run for mayor if/when I find a candidate I want to lynch or I think town is going full on dumbo. Keep in mind that the mayor has more power than deciding the Day1 lynch. cool story Whenever you find a quote you can say "cool story" to, the poster is probably scum. ~~~~~~~~ WoS keeps asking about things that townies don't even care about. He engages in endless policy discussion, never giving his opinion on anything other than he doens't know if BH is town. Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
DrH can I ask you specifically about your 'pressure hammer' strategy: how do you expect to deal with Suspect 'C' regarding pressuring them if they avoid you if they simply fuck off and don't return, rather than attempt to give you a defense and fail? Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 17:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
The only thing I'm curious about regarding BH is who he chose to PM, and why specifically those people. I don't really have much reason not to consider him town at the moment. Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 16:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am actually interested in other people's thoughts on this matter: would it simply be enough to give the mayor role to someone who was theoretically confirmed town but may or may not use the role to great effect?
~~~~~~~ BH - anti connection with my other scumreads but his early push on me makes no sense, considering my uncanny scumminess in extractor. And I know scum BH likes to appear super active. which disagrees with the assumption that mafia Kush does not read filters. On the other hand we have posts like + Show Spoiler [this, also from failgame] +On January 11 2014 22:24 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 22:09 Aquanim wrote:On January 11 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Agreed with Mocsta, suchdoge is the scummiest person in the thread. D'you reckon you can explain this to me? That long post of his looks like it was written pregame, and therefore doesn't tell me much regarding his alignment. He's also expressed a desire to talk with people (specifically VE) which isn't the most intuitive thing I'd expect a scum smurf to do.If he thinks that long post is sufficient contribution for the day I'll agree with you that he's likely scum - but I don't see any reason to believe yet that there won't be more material forthcoming from him. Is there anything else making you lean scum on him? Convince me. gdamn aquanim where have you been all my mafia life? that underline,bolded, and italicized line is pretty brilliant and true. Also @rayn how bad does scum have to be to make that post? pretty fucking bad. first scumgame bad. which kind of disagrees with rayn's assertion on kush. Doesn't really read like kush this game either. So I don't think you guys can read kush as good as you guys claim you're able to.
So why do you do this shit when you 5min later say you don't even do this stuff?
It's pretty clear these "analysis" are no value because you put zero effort on them, so what the fuck are they doing in the thread?
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On January 18 2014 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:And that's why i said half-arsed meta analysis. Because you give opinions based on people's past games and you do it terribly, like here: + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2014 11:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 10:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
Witchcraft 2. Sn0man was under suspicion the entire game. I skimmed his filter. I didn't see stuff that resembled posts like these: Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 09:39 Sn0_Man wrote:You know kush I'd accuse you of needing an easy target but thats really not how you play... Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:10 Sn0_Man wrote:On January 17 2014 01:07 Skanjab1s wrote:Oh wow, rayn, you actually think I'm opting out of discussion? Really? On January 17 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ugh.. this is gonna be really hard to figure out because Skanjab1s made a terrible terrible case on yamato in Hogwarts aswell. As sad it is he could do this as town.. Making opening cases on people and then getting called scum for it is what I do, yo.On January 17 2014 01:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes I was intentionally lying skan, see my followup post.
I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol He can't. I mean, he's welcome to try, but it wont work. This sounds a lot like "I intentionally made a worthless case cuz its my town meta and I gotta match that". Which sounds a lot like scum :/ Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well I was starting to think that you might have just been trying to get the thread moving and fishing for responses, which would be quite understandable, but instead it seems that you actually think I'm scum or something.
Jeeeeez. Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 03:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
Soooooo I'm scum because of Diction and because my reaction to scummy posts from skan is a "gross face".
Sigh, I was hoping for a productive day 1.
At least Mig is here and playing finally. I believe that means everybody has posted at least once. I really have a hard time picturing a townie post like the above. I see posts like this (picked because of red letters and they stand out): Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 01:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
His case amounts to "I can write Sn0's name in big red letters that guy must be scum.
Everything else is drivel.
"Oh Sn0 wanted to lynch Syl over vanesco" guess what syl is scum
"Oh Sn0 got Onegu lynched" yeah sure whatever floats your boat. I offered meta reference. Onegu played scummy. Hopeless deliberately misconstrues me and uses emotionally charged language in an attempt to squelch logic regarding why Onegu actually died.
"Sn0 figures the D1 NK may have been a silver bullet" obviously this is a clear scumtell thank you for pointing this out Hopeless no town would ever consider such a thing. Trying to figure out the game is how i play tyvm.
"Sn0 gave me shit when I replaced in" please excuse me for poking people in a mafia game to see how they react.
"Sn0 dropped his scumread on Syl day 4" well somebody didn't read day 4 at all
Hopeless also attempts to garner towncred in the middle of this for last-voting onto vanesco after he's already been hammered for a while without any chance of any other lynch.
And feels the need to jump on me messing up names (onegu instead of vanesco watever).
Ok thats his whole case boiled down and somewhat in order (excepting the first point). in WC2 instead. That's completly different. It's way later in the game, I'll give you that but it's nowhere close to being as apologetically as in his responses to Mig/Me/Kush. Can you give me a name of a game where we was mafia? I know I should be searching that stuff myself and there's a handy trick about it with clicking someone's profile but I never read old games and always forget how to search for that stuff... Explain to me what is the point of those 2 posts when they are clearly no value as you just said?
explaining that I still see the differences that some people claimed not to be there. I still haven't seen anyone link anything like the 4 posts I quoted in that post btw.
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Rayn is way too pessimistic now. Like WAY TOO FUCKING ANGRY THAT PEOPLE ARE PLAYING BADLY.
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So what's different in terms of the following statement: "Sn0 thinks D1 is quite useless and his primary goal is to not go all-in for scumhunting but instead to get rid of trash".
How does his posting in this game not work towards that goal when you compare it to WC II?
You can't just take a fucking post where he calls/doesn't call someone mafia nad say "look this is totally different than what he is doing in this game". That's not meta and you should know it.
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Got a News Year reception for work. Will be following on phone cuz it will be boring. I think. Will be solving a murder. And eat. Also drink. A lot.
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On January 18 2014 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn is way too pessimistic now. Like WAY TOO FUCKING ANGRY THAT PEOPLE ARE PLAYING BADLY.
And you are back to that bullshit sniping from the sidelines that Hopeless is doing too.
If you wanna imply something about Rayn, build a case.
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Oats is too angry because i don't even know why he is angry. See what i did there?
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On January 18 2014 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what's different in terms of the following statement: "Sn0 thinks D1 is quite useless and his primary goal is to not go all-in for scumhunting but instead to get rid of trash".
How does his posting in this game not work towards that goal when you compare it to WC II?
You can't just take a fucking post where he calls/doesn't call someone mafia nad say "look this is totally different than what he is doing in this game". That's not meta and you should know it.
whatever, I think we're better off ignoring that for now with about 5 hours left to decide who to lynch and sn0 not bein a target, agree?
Feel free to remind me of it later on and I'll explain it again.
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the WoS filter link needs fixing, it's not pointing to his filter but to writing him a pm. Just saying
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So people just let go of Sn0 because me and thrawn disagreed with your meta-analysis?
Fucking terrific. Why are you not pushing Sn0 lynch any more? You had a case that was based on meta and scummy things. Scummy things didn't go away, meta-analysis is what you yourself did, someone disagreeing with it means you are either bullshitting because you just let of it for no reason or for some other reason you have come to a conclusion Sn0 is town.
What has Sn0 done now that makes you think he is town?
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What was the case about in the first place because apparently anyone pushing that lynch seems to not be thinking he is mafia nay more.
Why?
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Rayn are we friends again?
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On January 18 2014 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So people just let go of Sn0 because me and thrawn disagreed with your meta-analysis?
Fucking terrific. Why are you not pushing Sn0 lynch any more? You had a case that was based on meta and scummy things. Scummy things didn't go away, meta-analysis is what you yourself did, someone disagreeing with it means you are either bullshitting because you just let of it for no reason or for some other reason you have come to a conclusion Sn0 is town.
What has Sn0 done now that makes you think he is town?
I still think he's mafia and you'd know that if you read my posts. I've been in an argument with hopeless about it. I let it go because I was the only one voting him when some people where on kush, some on hopeless and now everyone's on grack.
I'm aiming for best play possible, not best play and I'm not getting sn0 lynched today, simply as that.
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