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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 18:04 GMT
#1360
I could see BH do this as mafia. But probably as town as well. He is pretty bad as town and just claimed blue so that means extra bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 18:23 GMT
#1377
if you want to plynch you need to pick a scummy person to plynch.
plynch to plynch is silly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:07 GMT
#1425
On May 22 2014 04:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.


What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:12 GMT
#1431
On May 22 2014 04:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:07 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

Geript said that people like me who give those kinds of townreads are usually mafia.
That's what I contradicted.


What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.

Correction:
First I said: Everyone who said this is town (referring to hapa)
Geript replies: No, usually people who say that everyone who said this is town are scum. (referring to me, aka I'm scum)
Then I reply: Yes, usually but not this time. (aka I'm not scum)

ok cool.

HF is confirmed silly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:14 GMT
#1434
On May 22 2014 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
why is that? for having basic reading comprehension? :o

ah you probably meant the second hapa to be a sqrt
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:39 GMT
#1455
@sqrtofneg1
Finding smurfs is serious business.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:46 GMT
#1468
On May 22 2014 04:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On May 22 2014 04:39 Koshi wrote:
@sqrtofneg1
Finding smurfs is serious business.

Personally I don't think so.
Last game I played, Eden focused on finding serial killer rather than mafia.
Turned out to be mafia.
Smurfs are part of the game, but right now, as a town, you would be more focused on finding scum.

Layabout or anything that marvs votes.

Done.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:49 GMT
#1473
On May 22 2014 04:47 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On May 22 2014 04:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 04:39 Koshi wrote:
@sqrtofneg1
Finding smurfs is serious business.

Personally I don't think so.
Last game I played, Eden focused on finding serial killer rather than mafia.
Turned out to be mafia.
Smurfs are part of the game, but right now, as a town, you would be more focused on finding scum.

Layabout or anything that marvs votes.

Done.

Why layabout? Explain plz.

I like him the least.

Last post he made also had 4 lines why somebody is town followed with 4 lines why that same person is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:51 GMT
#1478
I allow it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 19:54 GMT
#1480
bkqyrldp
Why are you a boring smurfing hydra?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 20:47 GMT
#1525
bkqyrldp
Why is layabout town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 20:52 GMT
#1529
On May 22 2014 05:49 bkqyrldp wrote:
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On May 21 2014 12:33 layabout wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote:
On May 21 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote:
Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone?


this is the part of your case where you assume something completely wild and out of the blue cephiro that is so off tangent to the original question that it doesn't make sense and then the rest of your case is entirely based off of this


How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage.

Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case?

Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes.

However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt.

And that is my opinion on you case.

Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact.


I like this post. I'd like to hear more from laya.

What do you like about the bolded?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 20:53 GMT
#1531
you go girl!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 21:23 GMT
#1556
ritoky. Yes. I don't know why I am ignoring him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 22:07 GMT
#1584
On May 22 2014 07:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 06:57 marvellosity wrote:
##Sheep: Koshi
##Vote: layabout


I'll get to layabout in a bit, but I'm curious what you think of Koshi?

Pretty awesome guy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 22:14 GMT
#1592
On May 22 2014 07:00 austinmcc wrote:
Layabout's threadcop posts read slightly townie to me, like he was threadcopping not just to do it, not for cred, but because he actually didn't want to read steveling's posts or look at hula hoop pictures.

Austin, even though I received marvs blessing I am willing to sheep you. But you got to tell me more about layabout than this. If the lynch is between layabout and rikoty in the future I would like to read your entire opinion on layabout. If I feel you also melted with layabout his mindset and if you then still feel we should lynch rikoty I will sheep you ezpz.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 22:15 GMT
#1595
GOOD JOB ALAKASLAM!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 22:16 GMT
#1600
On May 22 2014 07:15 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 07:14 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:00 austinmcc wrote:
Layabout's threadcop posts read slightly townie to me, like he was threadcopping not just to do it, not for cred, but because he actually didn't want to read steveling's posts or look at hula hoop pictures.

Austin, even though I received marvs blessing I am willing to sheep you. But you got to tell me more about layabout than this. If the lynch is between layabout and rikoty in the future I would like to read your entire opinion on layabout. If I feel you also melted with layabout his mindset and if you then still feel we should lynch rikoty I will sheep you ezpz.
having played with a lot of fire/deadly sun rays in my life...i don't melt.

Yes but do it like the guy with the sheepy hair in the mentalist. I don't know what to verb is. Menting sounds wrong.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 22:18 GMT
#1610
On May 22 2014 07:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 07:15 Koshi wrote:
GOOD JOB ALAKASLAM!

Hmm? What I do

You stopped being marv his secret sex buddy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2014 22:30 GMT
#1630
On May 22 2014 07:17 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 07:14 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 07:00 austinmcc wrote:
Layabout's threadcop posts read slightly townie to me, like he was threadcopping not just to do it, not for cred, but because he actually didn't want to read steveling's posts or look at hula hoop pictures.

Austin, even though I received marvs blessing I am willing to sheep you. But you got to tell me more about layabout than this. If the lynch is between layabout and rikoty in the future I would like to read your entire opinion on layabout. If I feel you also melted with layabout his mindset and if you then still feel we should lynch rikoty I will sheep you ezpz.
Also I don't want sheep yet.

Does willingness to sheep indicate you AGREE? Regardless of the answer there, whatchoo feel about wishy washiness and small --> large games.

Being in a larger game makes you automatically more wishy washy about the greater picture. Simply because PoE is not an option anymore and you feel more lost. The fact he is talking about people that he knows he can read makes him look good. Because he is contributing in the way he would contribute as town.

1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far.

This quote is either a lie, or it is town. Mafia is not able to feel like this. I wasn't in this newbie game nor did I read it but if they both were town and if it is true that rikoty was able to instant read her town than this read is pretty ok in my book. It isn't that wishy washy. There are maybe more sentences than needed but each sentence adds some more meaning.

2) I find the people who were highly opposed to the RNG lynch on day 1 questionable. Especially those who said things along the lines of "I think I am better than RNG". I think if you say that on day 2 you can sell me quite a bit on it, as I would not be in favor of an RNG lynch on any day after day 1. Usually there is enough information to make singinifcantly informed guesses by that point in the game. But when you say something along the lines of being "better than RNG" on day 1, it makes me think that you have more information than I do. Which very likely means that you are scum.

The content here is not good. But again it somewhat feels like he actually believes this and is telling us how he sees things. I can see it being true. This time mafia can actually think like this though, it is not solely town thoughtprocess.

I have to do a couple things unexpectedly now and should be back in an hour or so to contribute more, but for now my I will at least leave my top town and scum read.

Top town: Meapak
Top scum: waveofshadow

This also felt like something new at the time he posted it. I read it and was surprised. I don't know if scum would risk it.

On May 21 2014 15:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 14:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:57 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:49 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:48 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I am sort of but not long. Just finished making the newbie sorry kita


IS geript right? Why is he wrong?

Do you have reads on Yellow? Hf/Steve? Austin aka ABBA? Cephs case on bunnies? Bunnies case on thrawn?

He isn't because I am town and sometimes I feel like reading the game to further enhance my trolling/joking around and because I do actually enjoy thinking about whether or not something is alignment indicative.



KK can you answer the other stuff if you're reading

What other stuff?



On May 21 2014 14:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 14:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I am sort of but not long. Just finished making the newbie sorry kita


IS geript right? Why is he wrong?

Do you have reads on Yellow? Hf/Steve? Austin aka ABBA? Cephs case on bunnies? Bunnies case on thrawn?


This wasn't directed at me, but I just got back and noticed a decent segue for me to give input on this as well.

re Yell0w: To me, his play is very much similar to the last game he played. He bumbles and fumbles with the details sometimes but overall I read his intentions are fairly pure for now. I don't necessarily think that because he contradicted himself that makes him mafia, it could just be bad VT play or forgetting what he said. He even admitted he contradicted himself, which is uncharacteristic of scum imo. Usually scum would be more concerned with keeping their story straight and their ducks in a row so early on.

re HF/Steve: I think a lot of that is predicated on reads from previous game experience with eachother, which I don't have with them so I can't say.

re Austin: null

re Ceph on bunnies: I think it is the most substantive accusation out there right now; that said I don't like all of the substance. I think bunnies has a ton of redeeming qualities and has done quite a bit to drive conversation so far, however as I said previously and as Ceph pointed out she seems very defensive in some posts and concerned with self image which is offputting for me. So for now I have her in a neutral area.

re Bunnies on thrawn: I think she is trying to shove a square peg in a circular hole. I think she is pushing a stubborn and conservative player who doesn't like making accusations until there is enough substance to make them into making an accusation before he is comfortable. As of now I like thrawn more than bunnies because he chose deliberately to not force out a read or flimsy accusation and stuck to his guns. However, that comes with an asterisk; that asterisk being that when he does talk, if it comes off as sheepish, parroting, or flimsy; then he is probably scum trying to blend in with the current of votes.

And just because someone (can't remember) seemed to think my read on waveofshadow was odd. I would say to you: read his filter. I find that he seems to be asking for a lot of information without giving anything back and either ignoring productive talking or actively avoiding it in a lot of cases. Much of what he says is jokes and non-committal responses. He could just be playing trolly VT during day 1, but I read it as more scummy.

Could be town sharing his ideas?


I already forgot what you wrote about him. But your post was pretty ok. It was something with meta. So yeah. Maybe I won't sheep you now I used my own analytical superskills on rikoty. Your fault really.
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