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On May 21 2014 13:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:34 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 21 2014 13:29 Holyflare wrote: wave why did you "possibly" town read marv early but after shadow said you wouldn't trust him as far as i remember? I never fully trust marv. Ask him. I've played games with him since. Paranoia is my 'thing,' rite? yes i know but paranoia is like what you are doing with me where you just flat out won't trust me but i would have expected it to be similar to your response to marv but here you possibly town read him and i wanted you to explain why marv + ego is usually townmarv. I only have a small sample size to work with, and it's still very very early, hence cursory 'possible' townread. Dunno seems kinda obvs to me.
The difference between you and marv is sometimes I have to begrudgingly trust him because he is VERY often right even if I'm not sure of his alignment. With you I have no such qualms 
I am a little sick of talking about you though. Let's talk about something/someone else. Maybe one of the multitudes of shitters here I don't recognize. (I use shitters affectionately. Just ask the people who watch my stream.)
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On May 21 2014 13:41 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:38 ritoky wrote: holy crap that was a long read. i felt like i was never going to catch up to it.
i feel like there is a lot of jokes and interactions between people who have played together a lot that went wayyyyy over my head in the first few pages.
right now I am having a little bit of trouble organizing my thoughts because there is just a lot of stuff.
the two largest things that i noticed are:
1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far.
2) I find the people who were highly opposed to the RNG lynch on day 1 questionable. Especially those who said things along the lines of "I think I am better than RNG". I think if you say that on day 2 you can sell me quite a bit on it, as I would not be in favor of an RNG lynch on any day after day 1. Usually there is enough information to make singinifcantly informed guesses by that point in the game. But when you say something along the lines of being "better than RNG" on day 1, it makes me think that you have more information than I do. Which very likely means that you are scum.
I have to do a couple things unexpectedly now and should be back in an hour or so to contribute more, but for now my I will at least leave my top town and scum read.
Top town: Meapak Top scum: waveofshadow someone do some research and tell me if his top town and top scum reads align with points 1 and 2 Research: Dis guy doesn't know me, doesn't know BH and his RNG shenans, and as for his #1 I have no clue where that comes from.
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On May 21 2014 13:42 Holyflare wrote:ouch wave how does it feel? Hey if kita can be voting me surely a shitter randomly throwing a scumread on me doesn't hurt so bad. Plus again, everybody knows I will never be lynched so it don't matter. Kinda like you amirite?
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On May 21 2014 13:46 Holyflare wrote: why mz and why wave x_x? pretty sure there were more people against rng than just wave, in fact wave wasn't even that against it iirc you applauded bh for trying it? Yup, pretty much. In fact I'm almost certain I stated if I didn't know it was destined to fail (as I fully supported it once and even pushed it and it STILL failed in the end...think maybe it was Thug Life?) I would support it here too.
It almost seems like he just grabbed random names from a hat that have nothing to do with the rest of his post.
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On May 21 2014 13:46 Steveling wrote: Can I join the club of guys that won't get lynched? Sorry Steve, it's a pretty exclusive club. We kicked some people out of it not too long ago I think. Here's your consolation prize though.
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What are people's thoughts on this bunnies character? I'm too lazy to go back and read the million posts/opinions stated thus far but first instincts tell me that anyone this excruciatingly tryhard is probably town. Cephiro had some wall on her I think...what was the TL;DR?
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On May 21 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote: What are people's thoughts on this bunnies character? I'm too lazy to go back and read the million posts/opinions stated thus far but first instincts tell me that anyone this excruciatingly tryhard is probably town. Cephiro had some wall on her I think...what was the TL;DR? cephiros tl:dr bunnies responses didn't account for his questioning and vote being from mafia because she knew he was town no idea until she starts posting more reads on other people though because i don't agree with the ceph thing If your TL;DR is right I think that at least makes Ceph town 'cause that would be some convoluted scum thinking.
Ugh maybe I should go read it myself...sigh
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On May 21 2014 14:04 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote: What are people's thoughts on this bunnies character? I'm too lazy to go back and read the million posts/opinions stated thus far but first instincts tell me that anyone this excruciatingly tryhard is probably town. Cephiro had some wall on her I think...what was the TL;DR? cephiros tl:dr bunnies responses didn't account for his questioning and vote being from mafia because she knew he was town no idea until she starts posting more reads on other people though because i don't agree with the ceph thing Why is this yellow train (or any train) so hard to get started? No one has had more than 3 votes I don't think all game. I'm going to do a ghetto vote count in a second cause there hasn't been one in awhile. Calm your tits, hun. It's been 8 hours.
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On May 21 2014 15:15 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 14:58 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 14:57 Alakaslam wrote:On May 21 2014 14:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 14:48 Alakaslam wrote:On May 21 2014 14:43 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 14:40 Alakaslam wrote: I am sort of but not long. Just finished making the newbie sorry kita IS geript right? Why is he wrong? Do you have reads on Yellow? Hf/Steve? Austin aka ABBA? Cephs case on bunnies? Bunnies case on thrawn? He isn't because I am town and sometimes I feel like reading the game to further enhance my trolling/joking around and because I do actually enjoy thinking about whether or not something is alignment indicative. KK can you answer the other stuff if you're reading What other stuff? On May 21 2014 14:43 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 14:40 Alakaslam wrote: I am sort of but not long. Just finished making the newbie sorry kita IS geript right? Why is he wrong? Do you have reads on Yellow? Hf/Steve? Austin aka ABBA? Cephs case on bunnies? Bunnies case on thrawn? This wasn't directed at me, but I just got back and noticed a decent segue for me to give input on this as well. re Yell0w: To me, his play is very much similar to the last game he played. He bumbles and fumbles with the details sometimes but overall I read his intentions are fairly pure for now. I don't necessarily think that because he contradicted himself that makes him mafia, it could just be bad VT play or forgetting what he said. He even admitted he contradicted himself, which is uncharacteristic of scum imo. Usually scum would be more concerned with keeping their story straight and their ducks in a row so early on. re HF/Steve: I think a lot of that is predicated on reads from previous game experience with eachother, which I don't have with them so I can't say. re Austin: null re Ceph on bunnies: I think it is the most substantive accusation out there right now; that said I don't like all of the substance. I think bunnies has a ton of redeeming qualities and has done quite a bit to drive conversation so far, however as I said previously and as Ceph pointed out she seems very defensive in some posts and concerned with self image which is offputting for me. So for now I have her in a neutral area. re Bunnies on thrawn: I think she is trying to shove a square peg in a circular hole. I think she is pushing a stubborn and conservative player who doesn't like making accusations until there is enough substance to make them into making an accusation before he is comfortable. As of now I like thrawn more than bunnies because he chose deliberately to not force out a read or flimsy accusation and stuck to his guns. However, that comes with an asterisk; that asterisk being that when he does talk, if it comes off as sheepish, parroting, or flimsy; then he is probably scum trying to blend in with the current of votes. And just because someone (can't remember) seemed to think my read on waveofshadow was odd. I would say to you: read his filter. I find that he seems to be asking for a lot of information without giving anything back and either ignoring productive talking or actively avoiding it in a lot of cases. Much of what he says is jokes and non-committal responses. He could just be playing trolly VT during day 1, but I read it as more scummy. And your MZ read?
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On May 21 2014 15:24 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:37 Tehpoofter wrote:Going to throw out some of my reads so far this game I'd like to see where others stand as well. Town Hero: TehpoofterTownies: Hapa, BlueyD, HF, Steve, Bunnies, GeriptScum: Yellow, BKQ, Valenius, layaboutPeople Geript Should shoot: Slam People Geript Shouldn't shoot: MarvelloCity 3rd Parties: Crazy MAn who wins by screaming and passing out the most fliers to his RNG party: Blazinghand Lazy People that need to do more: Marv, Koshi + Show Spoiler +Also Austin if there is an ABBA cult I would like to submit an application regardless of how its aligned I will fight for ABBA. NO WHY TF DOES HE SHOOT ME. Freaking town dayshits hide the alignment of bulllahit No this is bull geript should save hot and shouldn't have claimed I want to say this is an honest mistake and Slam probs town because of it.... Slam this isn't a no-flip game---dayvig shots should still allow flips as they do in most games.
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On May 22 2014 01:41 Holyflare wrote: removed wave cz marv reminded me of survivor where he was super happy to play scum and try and look towny Eh, I think that ez meta read is more circumstantial than anything with a lot of external factors involved but I certainly won't fight it.
I dunno I'm kinda with thrawn on this especially after the post restriction game. Not being able to post what/when I wanted was balls but having to sift through 31 other peoples shit may be worse and my care factor is mega low atm. I'm sure ill be inspired in short bursts.
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Also yeah Onegu you and your family stay safe.
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This would be such an amazing game to be scum. Somebody besides Austin give me something to do mebbe? I dunno I feel like a dumb American watching a game of cricket right now.
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On May 22 2014 07:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 07:32 WaveofShadow wrote: This would be such an amazing game to be scum. Somebody besides Austin give me something to do mebbe? I dunno I feel like a dumb American watching a game of cricket right now. Hey Wave I have something for you, pick up your game  You've made me so sad so far Yay I was mentioned in a 5k post!
I dunno I'm legit having a shit time right now. What have you got besides memorializing me forever in your milestone post?
Who are the serious candidates right now that I should look into? I feel like layabout is one of them but to me that essentially amounts to lurker lynch I thinks. Who else?
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On May 22 2014 07:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 07:32 WaveofShadow wrote: This would be such an amazing game to be scum. Somebody besides Austin give me something to do mebbe? I dunno I feel like a dumb American watching a game of cricket right now. I literally made a post with a whole bunch of semi-interesting questions for you to answer. Or layabout, ritoky, mtamb. Whatever. Stop being poo. Was it directed at me or to I people in general? Either way it'll have to wait just a little. I dunno I'm really and truly just not feeling it this game. I'll try and do better I guess
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Random stuff before I eat and get a chance to do proper reading later: BH probably town. Think I said that before. I know BH is well aware of his meta and whatnot but I've even him do this RNg thing too many times to count and while he's certainly capable of this as both alignments, he generally isn't this blatantly useless as scum. This would be one of those town games where he'd be perfectly happy getting killed or lynched as town, and there are a few of them. It annoys me but this is what I think.
I can't say I've read ritoky's recent stuff but based on his earlier ones (the me/MZ read post) and skimming recent things I think he COULD be scum.....his posts just feel...wrong to me? I dunno I can't really explain it better. Like his reads come out of left field and don't make any sense to me at all even though he explains them. That could indicate just a different player with a different play style but it could also indicate a different mindset IMO. Dunno maybe when I read him more closely I can explain better. Just feels on him right now and while it's not necessarily mafia feels, I get the non-Euclidian geometry feeling from his posts. Lovecraft styles. No that's not a crumb.
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On May 22 2014 08:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Random stuff before I eat and get a chance to do proper reading later: BH probably town. Think I said that before. I know BH is well aware of his meta and whatnot but I've even him do this RNg thing too many times to count and while he's certainly capable of this as both alignments, he generally isn't this blatantly useless as scum. This would be one of those town games where he'd be perfectly happy getting killed or lynched as town, and there are a few of them. It annoys me but this is what I think.
I can't say I've read ritoky's recent stuff but based on his earlier ones (the me/MZ read post) and skimming recent things I think he COULD be scum.....his posts just feel...wrong to me? I dunno I can't really explain it better. Like his reads come out of left field and don't make any sense to me at all even though he explains them. That could indicate just a different player with a different play style but it could also indicate a different mindset IMO. Dunno maybe when I read him more closely I can explain better. Just feels on him right now and while it's not necessarily mafia feels, I get the non-Euclidian geometry feeling from his posts. Lovecraft styles. No that's not a crumb. Are you kidding me Wave? He was this blatantly useless in Ver's game. Seriously? Ongoing games, bro. And there's a difference. When game ends remind me and I can give details.
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On May 22 2014 08:32 Steveling wrote: Although I have to admit, I feel very precious that scum are targeting me d1 in such a huge game. Proves my worth. Do you really think (assuming you are in fact town) that what you are describing is a likely scenario?
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On May 22 2014 08:40 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 08:24 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 08:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 08:20 Valenius wrote: Oh sqrt. I meant to chase you up on this: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed."
When was this confirmed? Apologies if you answered it later and i missed it. Quote from OP: Besides Town there will be 4 other factions present. Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town! All factions endanger town, aka they're all anti town. Ah. Different reads on that then. I read it as Town's wincondition is to eliminate all factions that can cause harm to town. i.e. 3 scum groups, 1 mason group, kill scum, mason can live. Besides Town there will be 4 other factions present. Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town! It's Eliminate all Factions-COMMA- which endanger town! not Eliminate all Factions which endanger town! Let me clarify the town-wincondition.
ELIMINATE ALL FACTIONS THAT ARE THREATENING TOWN!
I am sorry if this caused any issue, but English is not my primary language and screw-ups happen.
This does NOT confirm or deny the existence of hypothetical benign factions to town. I love when people make excuses for their English and then say things like that second sentence. <3 shiao
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Yup not lynching layabout today
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