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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 03:14 GMT
#3520
On May 24 2014 12:11 geript wrote:
Scumeling. Seriously. Please stop. Like you're really not helping right now. Make a point. Write a case. Smoke some weed. Whatever but seriously chill. Like you've gotten under more people's skin this game than I have. Like what I did was a problem. You've taken off with it and to be honest, you'll probably end up being lynch for it at some point in this game. Chill.


How is this not helping? He's actually asking useful questions atm. Bh and slam are most likely not town so why aren't you getting him to clarify?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 04:12 GMT
#3535
Dude they cluld just be some form of 3p not even a faction?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 04:13 GMT
#3536
Still can't get my head around a 4 shot vet though, especially as we've only seen 1 kp for each element or w/e
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 04:17 GMT
#3537
Anyway this convo is really disjointed from the pevious convo. I would love to lynch erandorr.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 04:19 GMT
#3539
##vote erandorr

I suggest you read his filter for the wealth of information he has provided us since his joining 2 days+ ago.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 04:29 GMT
#3542
I do not care about that.
On May 23 2014 07:48 Erandorr wrote:
Hello friends. I will need a bit of time to catch up. I'll give you my thoughts if anything interesting stands out while reading. Also HI STEVE

On May 23 2014 08:14 Erandorr wrote:
HI KITA. imma go sleep read through the rest tomorrow. I was wondering how you guys managed 140 pages but then i saw the content.

On May 24 2014 05:27 Erandorr wrote:
Hello
On May 24 2014 05:29 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 05:28 Blazinghand wrote:
Don't worry guys, I won't reveal my role unless it's necessary to save my life. My role is such that I can't reveal it without making it substantially less useful going forward, assuming scum has certain roles/powers.


What the fuck is going on in this game?



He has 24 hours between saying good night and returning with hello and commenting on useless bh post. Nowhere does he state he didn't have enough time to read. Apparently he is around enough to display confusion at a post when it is posted but not enough to point out anything in his "reading".
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 04:34 GMT
#3543
I wouldn't care if he just gave up reading and said fuck it I'll start from here, I wouldn't even mind if he didn't even appear for ages. Yet he promised activity and contribution in the form of reads WHILE reading. I wouldn't mind even if he started that and stopped while doing it. However, he had the time to make a wtf post 1 min after bh made it and then disappear all over again with no hint that he has or hasn't read. No picture of caring.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 05:01 GMT
#3545
It's not just the replacement either, wave was equally uninvolved
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 05:08 GMT
#3547
And doing nothing is scummy when you promise to do not nothing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 16:28 GMT
#3593
On May 25 2014 01:23 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 01:17 BlueyD wrote:
My defense is gonna suck but that's what you get: I'm a noob, this is my 2nd game in recent memory and it's too big for me. I've had no confidence in my reads so they come off as weak and I wait to see if someone better than me agrees instead of pushing them hard myself. I had similar behavior in Yuma with my kush read for what it's worth. Both cases I tried to build here, first on yellow and then on cav, were judged to suck on top of that so that makes me want to just say "I'm no good at this" and jump on wagons of people who are.

I'm just gonna drop any thought-filter I had for the rest of the time I have left, dunno how long that is, and go with honest thoughts here. I have nothing to lose really, I don't see myself surviving very long anyway. Also screw consistency with my previous reads in what I’m gonna say here. I’m sure there’s a lot of crap in there especially since I know very few of you, meta is a useful tool but I have no real access to it.

---


Kush is just scum, I might not be pushing my reads well but he doesn’t even have reads. Laziness only goes so far. It’s not “just a meta case”, he’s just done nothing. Kill it with fire soon. Same for thrawn, either he actually does stuff really soon or town better kill him.

BH and Slam are in all likelihood town. This looks to me like a setup with 4 rival factions (one for each element) getting their NKs from controlling townies and making them kill stuff, with a group of town heroes immune to the control effects under most conditions. This is all speculation but that’s what I think. Either way BH and Slam have confirmed each other openly. It’s possible I’m entirely wrong, if ever one dies you’ll know the other’s alignment for sure though.

Fool is town, building them cases. Kita I don’t know. Like, his case on me reads well, which is what made me realize I’ve been playing like crap... Namely I should’ve said in advance I’d miss about 19 hours of play, and I should either have made strong cases or been openly lazy, I shouldn’t have put a filter on the analysis but not on the emotions... Right now the end result is I just end up looking like someone who wants to look like he’s doing stuff when he’s not. Meh. But at the same time, well, I know the conclusion’s wrong. I think most of it is explainable by him not knowing me at all, me playing like crap, and things not looking good in the filter out of context. But overall he’d be on the townier side.

Tamburini is possibly just lynchbait, his play makes no sense at all, and these crazy people who just fail to understand what is going on are usually lynchbait. I don't know if anyone can fake being this crazy while being a good player, people who've played with him would've called that immediately. I hate trying to read players like these because nothing they do is alignment-indicative and I’d hate to be in lylo with him but basically there’s a decent chance he’s town-aligned.

Yellow I wouldn’t lynch right now, and rereading his case makes me realize it was not that strong in the first place even though I made it. He still looks a bit scummy to me for having pointed out how easy it could be for scum to hide in BH’s RNG-lynch and then going for it anyway, and then keeping his vote on Odin after having legit scumreads... But some stuff like defending me against an unjustified early kita attack even though I was on his case makes me like him more. It’s like, he’s nullish because stuff he’s done just goes both ways. He started scum, he's looking more and more town, I figure if he keeps talking there are good chances he'll be a townread soon.

Sqrtofneg1 gives me stupidly strong scumvibes for no reason I can discern. It’s just a feeling. I open his filter and read a few posts and go “screw that”. That’s not a sign I foresee getting any useful info there. When I did manage to dive in I found a lot of unjustified town reads and not a lot of scum reads, and he turned his read on Ceph from town to scum with no reason. Lots of spam. Leaning scum. Lynch or shoot soon.

Cav has had scummy moments: screwed up his meta read on me then told me to shut up and take my townie read when I questioned him on it instead of answering, then later on he’s at the point where he’d lynch me without having explained why. Plus that case I made on him which no one paid attention to. I’d put him on the scumteam.

Holyflare is the 4th player I’ve played with, he's apparently known for playing the same way as town and as scum so I'm not even gonna try to read him.

Steve is likely town as I’ve said, no non-suicidal scum would claim a survival role at the moment he did. Apparently he has 4 pots of invulnerability, or whatever you want to call them. That doesn’t mean listen to him, that just means ignore his ass for another 3 cycles or so if you don’t like him, he might even die by himself once his pots run out.

Geript has been waving a gun in front of everyone but I’m gonna go ahead and bet it’s made of plastic. I can’t see a guy with that temper not shooting early especially when there were ok targets, and it’s kind of risky to claim vig D1. He’s doing exactly the opposite of what I’d do with a gun, aka keep it under the pillow and suprise-shoot when necessary. Does that make him scum? Well it at least makes it more likely. Meta reads apply here, as I don’t know the guy.

I think it was kita who mentioned I should’ve analyzed ceph. Truth is when I wrote that post, the Ceph-bunny part is what I wrote last, it was tacked on to the rest of the post which I took a lot of time thinking up. I got lazy there, plus I had no idea whether the bad case made Ceph scummy or not, so I just went with my first thought, which was that at any rate the case wasn’t good. In hindsight I don’t like that he came in, tunneled one person, left, and didn’t show up for so long afterwards. Doesn’t feel like he carefully picked his time and target to strike, just feels like he wanted to build a case on whoever he saw, and stuck at the first person he interacted with. Scum.

Xata is really really town too. I don’t care to give details on that one. But some stuff he’s said makes it pretty obvious.

The rest of the players made no strong impression on me. Had a few reads I had little confidence in in a notepad file but they’re not up to date. Had a list of to-watch people which included Val, ritoki, Austin, jampi and layabout, plus some guys I talk about up there (thrawn, val, yellow, ceph, tambo). Had onceking, Hapa and ninjabunnies on the townier side for I-don’t-know-why. I even had marv 3rd party early in the game like a bunch of people now do due to him telling someone not to worry too much about factions and just hunt scum. That was another just-a-feeling that I’d have felt silly putting out there, but might actually have been useful in hindsight. Who knows.

---

All right, this is already more than long enough. At worst you lynch me and I'm free from this time-consuming hulk of a game. If you lynch me you'll be one bad townie down which isn't so bad, but at least you'll have a bunch of thoughts you'll know comes from a townie. By the way I'm VT so you don't lose any powers by lynching or otherwise shooting me.

I'm just gonna spend the afternoon outside. I'll take a look again tonight.


oh come on


I like it, why don't you?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2014 17:09 GMT
#3610
Let's kill thrawn
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:04 GMT
#3866
On May 25 2014 13:45 Steveling wrote:
I have to organise my league's draft this evening so I won't be here till monday evening.
My vote will stay on eran for today because he's the scummiest scum.
Toodaloo!


Dafuk? You said NOT to lynch him today?


Also, austin the jig is up. I checked you and you are not town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:06 GMT
#3867
##vote austinmcc

Yadayada
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:09 GMT
#3871
Checking for rb's etc gather more info.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:09 GMT
#3872
No idea :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:14 GMT
#3874
Was on my list and is someone that could sway people if more vetty ppl died.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:19 GMT
#3876
In other news i made the most amazing eggs benedict this morning
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:22 GMT
#3881
Lol I'd rather bask in the glory of confirmed for just a bit longer
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:22 GMT
#3882
Tell us how factions work
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 25 2014 05:24 GMT
#3885
Also this means that some people were recruited last night? Do you know if other factions can do the same?
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