Golden Sun: The Lost Age Mafia Djinn Edition - Page 16

On May 23 2014 10:48 OnceKing wrote:
to clarify i would say that post by BlueyD puts him on the scummy side of things. I'd vote to kill him, but he wouldn't be my first choice. In my personal experience mafia members like to come in after a ML and call people idiots despite not doing anything about it

like, if you thought it was a terrible idea then why weren't you around for almost a whole day to stop it from happening? more than likely is scum wanting to say "sheep me, i knew this was wrong" but instead of actually pushing the idea that it's wrong you wait until after the lynch when it can't be changed anymore to whine at us.

On May 23 2014 13:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Hm. That lynch result was unfortunate. Though the good news is that we have a lot of material to work with - these crazy late vote swaps always generate good information.

I'll be reading the buildup to the lynch tomorrow, as I just drove 8 hours and I'm dead tired. My first instinct is to look into players on the Odin wagon that followed Blazinghand's RNG lynch as opposed to lynching Odin for actually being suspicious of him. Yell0w stuck with his early RNG vote on Odin despite having several other scum-reads in his filter. Alakaslam never mentioned a scum-read on Odin either (other the RNG stuff). Not sure if that's just Slam being Slam, but that's objectively pretty terrible.

Obviously there are more people to look into than the two I mentioned above - Cavalihno's case looks interesting at first glance, and I'll need to verify that myself after I get some sleep. Tambo essentially wasting his vote late in the cycle is also very bad.

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Since several people expressed concern about my own actions during the lynch, I can't defend myself other than simply not being able to post while driving on a highway. My travel schedule today was terrible, and I really wish I could have been around for the deadline.

Instead, I had a very short time to get acquainted with BlazingHand's case, saw a bunch of reputable players follow it, and kinda just went with the flow. Given the result and hindsight, I very much regret how it played out, but there was very little I could do today to help it.

On May 23 2014 14:07 Hapahauli wrote:


Marv/Kita/BH off the top of my head.

The thing is, it doesn't really matter if they're town. Given that there are multiple factions, it's highly likely that mafia and town can have similar objectives (lynching other factions). If you want my surface reads on them...
BH = Town
Kita = Null
Marv = Slight-Town

On May 23 2014 06:34 kitaman27 wrote:
There were a couple of people who voted for Odin based on a "logically sound case", rather than actually sharing a belief that he was mafia.

I know some may consider this a matter of semantics here, but I put some value into it. Will look back later.

On May 24 2014 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
it is right. it's 9 oclock holy, just like deadline was last night.

On May 24 2014 00:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Lol

Here we are, the conglomerate of the blues/reds, all panicking like "ack ack when is the deadline?!?!?"

On May 24 2014 00:55 Hapahauli wrote:


I don't know - I'm going to look at the lynch right now and see what I find.

But yes I sorta just went with the flow on the last lynch, basically because their names were "shiny". There's really not much else I can do while driving. Was it a good idea in hindsight? Probably not. I did manage to skim the BlazingHand case enough to think it was pretty good (as did many other people), and thought my vote would be of better use consolidating with the rest of the town.

On May 24 2014 03:19 Steveling wrote:


Well he quoted my post and said "him", so not my fault rly.

On May 24 2014 03:23 Steveling wrote:


I get what you mean but you are the one who doesn't understand me.

I said that no matter what their reasons where I still find it scummy.
You said that they were joking.

See what I mean? Doesn't matter why they had this little 3 man train, joking or not, I don't like it.

On May 24 2014 03:26 Blazinghand wrote:


the dude was absent for way more than the last 3 hours of the day tho and he hasn't veen back since then so yewah, get served

On May 24 2014 03:25 Steveling wrote:
Btw HF, regarding my reads yesterday, the only one whom you defended was marv. Since you thought that I had some faulty reasons.
Does that mean you agree with all the other reads?
What do you think of these people?

On May 24 2014 03:30 Blazinghand wrote:


Good luck trying that on a vet like me huehuehuehuehuehue

On May 24 2014 03:37 Hapahauli wrote:


You are 100% correct. However in a multi-faction game, pursuing a read genuinely is not a town-tell.

Had he contributed at all to discussion out side of Bunnies (hell had he did anything outside of tunneling a single person), I might think differently of his play. But he didn't.

On May 21 2014 13:34 Cephiro wrote:
General question to the players in the game:

1) Is my play more likely to come from town or scum?
2) Reasoning for the above.

Answer these if you'd like to help me get a read on you.

On May 24 2014 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
I would also like to note that, even though Odin HAPPENED to flip town, and even though when I started writing that case on him I was doing it just cause he was my RNG target, it was still a good case. Partway through, I started to really believe it. It was just gonna be a half-assed thing, but as I wrote more and more and read more and more I started to eat my own dog food, so to speak. I wanted Odin to be scum, so bad. I wanted him to be scum and when he said and did scummy things I was so happy.

You can't understand how happy I'd have been if he flipped scum, if RNG had really truly worked. Think about every game from now on: I could suggest RNG saying that it has lynched scum every time people implemented it. I [u]believed, and even if only for a few hours, so did many of you. Even though Odin flipped town, we still have that memory, and I will always treasure it.