EPTI am confused as to why mattisfoolish wants us to kill kush.
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On May 21 2014 15:55 mattisfoolish wrote:
Ninjabunnies I wouldn't lynch. Seems like she's putting effort into the game and is trying to figure things out. In a large game like this it says a lot for a player to be doing that on day 1. Mafia wait to see how cold the water is before treading out.
Really I don't think a full analysis is warranted here, reevaluate her in a few days if you're suspicious. We should be after the people who are passively posting in the thread not the ones who are forcing people to talk or giving out reads. If you're not convinced, find a game where she's town/mafia and see what she does on day 1 and compare it to this game. By that I mean ask yourself if she put out thoughts in the thread and forced people to talk or not.
I would definitely love to see some pressure on tamburini. Lots of people are hammering for his giant post but I don't think that's warranted. Reasons being: 1) the long post only means something if you think he's mafia and over-compensating to appear town. That means he's trying too hard to be town. 2) The kind of stuff he was saying in the long post is typical of his trollish behavior (for example look at his first 10ish posts here where he's town). 3) If instead of being one long post if that was 10 posts of spam like most people do you probably wouldn't be making these arguments.
Instead I'm actually bothered by the following post:
Why? He essentially listed about 6 people and said "I'm not sure but maybe..." about them. If you look at his town games he's much more direct about his accusations. Take a look at the following posts from his town games:
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Look at how direct his accusations are. In the first spoiler post against yell0w (from the previous game not the current one we are in) he wrote that about 4 hours in. "This person is mafia because they did X Y and Z. If we're not lying this person we're lynching this other person because A and B". That's the kind of town that I like, not afraid to speak his mind and push what he thinks is right. His accusations this game (if you can even call them that) have not displayed the same level of directness. As a mafia, he would want to be doing that so he doesn't have to take responsibility later on.
##Vote: mtamburini
Hilariously after these posts I've pretty much read the entire game of Newbie Mini LV.
Initial read on him is town. Remind me to read him again at night or day 2 if we're still around I'm looking at others first.
And yes I'll be mindful of giving updates where I stand. As much as I'd like to I'm not just going to completely ignore the thread and everyone in it.
I'll try to remember to sign the posts, but I said in my very first post that Mattchew is going to be gone for about a week. I don't think he'll have time to post until then so just assume it's Foolishness for now.
--Foolishness
Ninjabunnies I wouldn't lynch. Seems like she's putting effort into the game and is trying to figure things out. In a large game like this it says a lot for a player to be doing that on day 1. Mafia wait to see how cold the water is before treading out.
Really I don't think a full analysis is warranted here, reevaluate her in a few days if you're suspicious. We should be after the people who are passively posting in the thread not the ones who are forcing people to talk or giving out reads. If you're not convinced, find a game where she's town/mafia and see what she does on day 1 and compare it to this game. By that I mean ask yourself if she put out thoughts in the thread and forced people to talk or not.
I would definitely love to see some pressure on tamburini. Lots of people are hammering for his giant post but I don't think that's warranted. Reasons being: 1) the long post only means something if you think he's mafia and over-compensating to appear town. That means he's trying too hard to be town. 2) The kind of stuff he was saying in the long post is typical of his trollish behavior (for example look at his first 10ish posts here where he's town). 3) If instead of being one long post if that was 10 posts of spam like most people do you probably wouldn't be making these arguments.
Instead I'm actually bothered by the following post:
Why? He essentially listed about 6 people and said "I'm not sure but maybe..." about them. If you look at his town games he's much more direct about his accusations. Take a look at the following posts from his town games:
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On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote:
Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened.
1 Sarcasm
2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny.
These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far.
Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened.
1 Sarcasm
2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny.
These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far.
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On April 29 2014 20:10 mtamburini wrote:
What question do you want asked, I gave my reasoning on why Yellow should be lynched today..
His sarcastic remarks (joking posts to some) are highly indicative of an experienced mafia not knowing what to say in that situation when caught in a contradiction as bunny pointed out.
Next he asks someone how he shouldve responded to that to look more towny. As town people you dont care about acting towny because you are town, as mafia you care about acting towny so no one finds out your mafia.
What question do you want asked, I gave my reasoning on why Yellow should be lynched today..
His sarcastic remarks (joking posts to some) are highly indicative of an experienced mafia not knowing what to say in that situation when caught in a contradiction as bunny pointed out.
Next he asks someone how he shouldve responded to that to look more towny. As town people you dont care about acting towny because you are town, as mafia you care about acting towny so no one finds out your mafia.
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On May 04 2014 15:52 mtamburini wrote:
I've got this really paranoid read that if we do not kill Yell0w today we should kill bunnies.
Here is why.
1) She pressured Yell0w in beginning and there was mixed emotions on it with a lot of people defending him and she retracted her vote on him. She said something like well whatever then I wont vote on him. She can easily take her vote off and seem towny for it, but also she can be mafia with yell0w and then pressure him a bit with some reasoning that I liked but a lot of people didnt. Im a little confused I think there is at least one between them.
Either bunnies is town and mafia defended Yell0w who is also mafia
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Trying to soft bus on Yell0w and see reactions from others and one of her partners steps in and defends Yell0w to gain some cred and distance themselves from bunnies.
OR
Yell0w is town Bunnies tried to get an easy ML on yell0w but no one was willing to go on it (but me afterwards) and her mafia partners distance away form her again.
2) It may be a stupid reason but she posted before she was drunk/tipsy then comes out the next day and says she got roleblocked. Why not say it in her first post? I mean OGI maybe but you do get notified when roleblocked so I dont think she does not check her inbox to see what message she got.
a) Shes mafia and didnt really care if she got roleblocked
b) Shes mafia and is faking she got roleblocked after reading whats happened.
Shes already said shes not a role so she is probably gonna skate by today because of that but its something that is stuck in the back of my head and it gives me nightmares
I've got this really paranoid read that if we do not kill Yell0w today we should kill bunnies.
Here is why.
1) She pressured Yell0w in beginning and there was mixed emotions on it with a lot of people defending him and she retracted her vote on him. She said something like well whatever then I wont vote on him. She can easily take her vote off and seem towny for it, but also she can be mafia with yell0w and then pressure him a bit with some reasoning that I liked but a lot of people didnt. Im a little confused I think there is at least one between them.
Either bunnies is town and mafia defended Yell0w who is also mafia
OR
Trying to soft bus on Yell0w and see reactions from others and one of her partners steps in and defends Yell0w to gain some cred and distance themselves from bunnies.
OR
Yell0w is town Bunnies tried to get an easy ML on yell0w but no one was willing to go on it (but me afterwards) and her mafia partners distance away form her again.
2) It may be a stupid reason but she posted before she was drunk/tipsy then comes out the next day and says she got roleblocked. Why not say it in her first post? I mean OGI maybe but you do get notified when roleblocked so I dont think she does not check her inbox to see what message she got.
a) Shes mafia and didnt really care if she got roleblocked
b) Shes mafia and is faking she got roleblocked after reading whats happened.
Shes already said shes not a role so she is probably gonna skate by today because of that but its something that is stuck in the back of my head and it gives me nightmares
Look at how direct his accusations are. In the first spoiler post against yell0w (from the previous game not the current one we are in) he wrote that about 4 hours in. "This person is mafia because they did X Y and Z. If we're not lying this person we're lynching this other person because A and B". That's the kind of town that I like, not afraid to speak his mind and push what he thinks is right. His accusations this game (if you can even call them that) have not displayed the same level of directness. As a mafia, he would want to be doing that so he doesn't have to take responsibility later on.
##Vote: mtamburini
Hilariously after these posts I've pretty much read the entire game of Newbie Mini LV.
Initial read on him is town. Remind me to read him again at night or day 2 if we're still around I'm looking at others first.
And yes I'll be mindful of giving updates where I stand. As much as I'd like to I'm not just going to completely ignore the thread and everyone in it.
I'll try to remember to sign the posts, but I said in my very first post that Mattchew is going to be gone for about a week. I don't think he'll have time to post until then so just assume it's Foolishness for now.
--Foolishness
If you open up the spoilers and look at the post foolishness is focusing on you will see that tamburini is asked about 8 players and then gives his thoughts on those 8 players. He does this an an early stage and says what he thinks rather than labeling each player. Foolishness then tries to use meta to show that tamburni is playing differently but foolishness ignores the context of the things he is comparing
He compares tamburini playing in a mini pushing a read with confidence to tamburini responding to a question about his thoughts with his thoughts.
I expect a lot more from foolishness and that doesn't sit right with me.
