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thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 08:03 GMT

#278

rayn if i told you i have a valid reason to believe you're scum, what do you think it is?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 08:11 GMT

#280

annnnnd now have 0 reads

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 08:59 GMT

#282

i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 09:33 GMT

#289

On January 07 2014 18:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change?

You're pushing the limit of how much thought you can assume I put into my earlier posts.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 18:33 GMT

#340

On January 08 2014 00:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Thrawn if you're around, where exactly did your line of questioning toward me go

You didn't respond to my latest question. I still want to know the motivation behind the couple of posts directed at me.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 18:38 GMT

#342

Artanis, the scumpoints are at best distracting. It'd be fine if I knew the real time value of a scumpoint and knew how many scumpoints equals a scumread... but I don't, so that makes it difficult to determine how serious you are about your reads.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 18:48 GMT

#350

can you provide quotes

On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 18:59 GMT

#359

You're accusing him of trying to win over your favor. But one of your first posts is

On January 07 2014 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm also town.
Cheesecake, on a level of 1-100, how sexy will you be this game?

so I don't know what you mean by that accusation. No matter his alignment any sexiness he demonstrates for your benefit is likely a result of the above quote.

I don't trust scumpoints:

On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.

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On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
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I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!

Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.

Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.

Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!

Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!

That's why scumpoints are bad. You are assigning CC scum points for misunderstanding a post. That's too weak of an accusation for me to believe but I can't tell how serious you are when you act silly while assigning scum reads.

I just refreshed the page and saw your recent post about the point I just brought up. Obviously I don't think it's a valid point.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 07 2014 19:16 GMT

#366

So after all that, what's your current read on CC?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 02:43 GMT

#520

I would kill artanis/corazon/rayn/yamato

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 02:45 GMT

#522

##vote yamato77

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 03:18 GMT

#524

On January 08 2014 11:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
I would kill artanis/corazon/rayn/yamato

I take back artanis because I am undecided. Probably Corazon too.

Anyone wanna kill rayn?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 03:22 GMT

#527

I doubt it. There is nothing to explain.

You're probably town though so nvm.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 03:24 GMT

#528

On January 08 2014 12:20 iamperfection wrote:

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why don't you want to kill yamato now?

That's where my vote is. None of the people I want to talk to are here, so I'm just lurking.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 03:27 GMT

#531

lol i know what he's gonna say and it's true for this game but has nothing to do with my alignment

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 03:30 GMT

#532

BTW Rayn at the beginning of the game when I voted you and said I'd keep my vote on you until you do something that convinces me otherwise, how you're posting now is what I was waiting for. Obviously it was good I didn't tell you this when you complained about it, which is why sometimes you need to have faith that some people only tell you what you need to know.

I'm pretty sure this relates to what you're thinking about me right now?

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 03:46 GMT

#536

Rayn you are trying to grill me over a "thought process" I can't even remember having nor was I probably aware of it at the time. I'm completely willing to talk to you about anything I've posted since I started being srs but I can't even remember what my reads were in those first few hours

On January 08 2014 12:42 iamperfection wrote:
... i don't get it

basically I avoid answering the tough questions by refusing to converse for one reason or another.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 03:58 GMT

#541

ok I remember

>>>>rayn if i told you i have a valid reason to believe you're scum, what do you think it is?

I don't remember what my read on you was when I asked this but a scumread isn't why I asked. I "was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself." (now I know all this makes me look like a moron but that is a consequence of playing stoned) I was baiting you in the most obvious way ever. You gave the answer that doesn't really help me figure out your alignment. At that point my thought process was like "ah fuck it" and then came the "0 reads" comment. Maybe there was some exaggeration on how few reads I suddenly had but I wouldn't be able to tell you.

Actually I've already explained this to you but I think you refused to believe that I am dumb enough to type this:

"I was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself."

We should get over this ASAP because I think it's gonna make for a pretty tedious read. Either decide I'm scummy for it or drop it because the above is the best explanation I care to give.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 04:06 GMT

#547

On January 08 2014 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Thrawn I believe you never responded to my question of you, being why exactly you felt the need to question my call-out of your vote-bait. You still haven't explained any of it, only dodged me when I ask you despite me answering every question you've asked of me.

I am not impressed.

Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato?

I didn't respond because I didn't feel the need to question you further. Kinda rude I know, but I'm not dodging.

I was trying to figure out what you were doing? I couldn't tell if you thought I was scum or if you were critiquing my play. If you're just critiquing play then honestly I still don't *actually* understand your motivation for those posts (in the sense of "does this post help town?"). But I don't think only scum will give advice so it's a non issue.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 08 2014 04:15 GMT

#556

On January 08 2014 13:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So did you think i - as scum - would be stupid enough to give away my alignment by being giving you an idiotic answer to a stupid question?

Like, as town, you do stuff that helps you figuring out other people's alignments. Therefore you don't ask questions that can have null-answers, or at least questions where the answer is expected to be null by default.

As scum, you want to look like you are doing that but you actually are not because you don't want to "confirm" townies to you or other townies as in the end that gives yourself away.

To me that looks like you were doing stuff that looks like you were doing stuff but that didn't have any intention behind it, which makes it far more likely to come from mafia.

I tried to be as self deprecating as possible in my response but you still need to realize what "smoking" for me means. I hate it when people list off how much they smoke and etc but I need to actually tell you for you to understand. Right now I currently have 4 strains of bud, hash, and hash oil at my disposal and I usually use some of everything. This week I've been using all of those things in multiple ways multiple times a day.

sorry for being a tool right there but rayn needs to understand

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