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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:18 GMT
#160
God damnit I want something interesting to happen instead of generic answers.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:23 GMT
#163
On January 07 2014 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah I'm really not finding much.
Yamato wassup? We should totally create a fun conversation.
How about this: if by this time tomorrow or maybe 36h in or so there are people who have not contributed/posted/whatever, would you support a lynch of those people?

Cheese (or anyone else really) is welcome to discuss as well.




Well there's nothing more I hate than a damn coag / stutters in the late game (no offense to those dudes it's just the way of life). I'd have a feeling someone would bring this up so this is how I see lurkers. At the beginning of the game I usually assume them all town and focus on active guys. Then we lynch a townie, and I become paranoid about lurkers being mafia while active towns just dig themselves a grave, seen it happen before. Lynch ALL the inactives! Unless i end up inactive for some reason, then dont lynch me.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:26 GMT
#166
On January 07 2014 11:25 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
God damnit I want something interesting to happen instead of generic answers.


I'm sorry... Your sons tests came back positive for crocodile DNA... You are not the father T-T


If I'm not the father how can it be my son. Check and mate.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:35 GMT
#172
On January 07 2014 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But you're not mafia.


This man, such faith, how does one do it?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:42 GMT
#177
On January 07 2014 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
For the record if you want to get yamato to contribute, just threaten to lynch him for a really bad reason.
Works every time.
^.^

Welcome Rayn and Cora.

Cheese I as well have seen that happen multiple times. Sadly I have seen games where most of the inactives are town just as often if not more often than the ones where the inactives are scum.


I see those games as well, problem is nobody ever gives any fucks about it. Every game there is a discussion whether to lynch lurkers and then it fades away like a distant memory so the lurkers just do what they do.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 02:47 GMT
#181
On January 07 2014 11:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:40 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
For the record if you want to get yamato to contribute, just threaten to lynch him for a really bad reason.
Works every time.
^.^

Welcome Rayn and Cora.

Cheese I as well have seen that happen multiple times. Sadly I have seen games where most of the inactives are town just as often if not more often than the ones where the inactives are scum.


Not this time, does that make him scum you think? Or is Yamato waiting for the last possible moment to regale us with his glorious reads?

It's way too early.
He's not threatened.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
For the record if you want to get yamato to contribute, just threaten to lynch him for a really bad reason.
Works every time.
^.^

Welcome Rayn and Cora.

Cheese I as well have seen that happen multiple times. Sadly I have seen games where most of the inactives are town just as often if not more often than the ones where the inactives are scum.


I see those games as well, problem is nobody ever gives any fucks about it. Every game there is a discussion whether to lynch lurkers and then it fades away like a distant memory so the lurkers just do what they do.


The question is will it happen this game too?
This conversation is getting really meta


meta as fuck, as such just lynch all of the lurkers and win the game. You take their post count for the game, minus any posts that say "hi just got home catching up" and divide it by the number of letters in their TL username, then you have a concrete way of numbering one's inactiveness. Then you lynch the dude with the lowest (highest?) score.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 03:08 GMT
#192
On January 07 2014 12:06 gumshoe wrote:
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On January 07 2014 11:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope nothing else has really interested me.
Oh there was one thing I wanted to mention but I didn't find it relevant anymore so I didn't btoher.
I'll say it now anyway just for kicks.

Gumshoe/Artanis's discussion points regarding analysis of voice mafia play v. forum mafia play made me go 'ehhhhhhhhh,' because voice mafia and forum mafia are incredibly different and there is very little you can do to directly compare the two. I don't really have a conclusion to draw from that either but it was one thing that struck me for whatever reason.

Artanis's play early on resembled his voice mafia style, it is also the only experience I have with him so it was better than nothing, he himself admitted his voice play was bleeding into to his forum play so we had a discussion about it. Where lies the issue and what are you trying to insinuate? That we're both scum? Or One of us is?your leaving this very open ended and I'd prefer you come to your own conclusions before you wait and see what someone else might conjure up.

Also you fail to mention cheesecake, who indulged me in this seemingly nonsensical discussion, how do you feel about him pushing a matter you consider irrelevant in a manner that might have me got me into a fight with Artanis?


I don't really understand this line of thinking. Where could I have gotten you into a fight with Artanis? I asked you about the voice mafia and how it compared to what he was doing this game.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 03:13 GMT
#197
On January 07 2014 12:11 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 12:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 12:06 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope nothing else has really interested me.
Oh there was one thing I wanted to mention but I didn't find it relevant anymore so I didn't btoher.
I'll say it now anyway just for kicks.

Gumshoe/Artanis's discussion points regarding analysis of voice mafia play v. forum mafia play made me go 'ehhhhhhhhh,' because voice mafia and forum mafia are incredibly different and there is very little you can do to directly compare the two. I don't really have a conclusion to draw from that either but it was one thing that struck me for whatever reason.

Artanis's play early on resembled his voice mafia style, it is also the only experience I have with him so it was better than nothing, he himself admitted his voice play was bleeding into to his forum play so we had a discussion about it. Where lies the issue and what are you trying to insinuate? That we're both scum? Or One of us is?your leaving this very open ended and I'd prefer you come to your own conclusions before you wait and see what someone else might conjure up.

Also you fail to mention cheesecake, who indulged me in this seemingly nonsensical discussion, how do you feel about him pushing a matter you consider irrelevant in a manner that might have me got me into a fight with Artanis?


I don't really understand this line of thinking. Where could I have gotten you into a fight with Artanis? I asked you about the voice mafia and how it compared to what he was doing this game.


My initial analysis of Artanis's play in voice was negative, by inquiring about my experience with him in voice in relation to this game you were basically asking me for my thoughts about a potential scum read before I myself was willing to commit to that scum read.


Gasp
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 03:27 GMT
#208
On January 07 2014 12:26 gumshoe wrote:
Whelp, I've done as much as I can, my vote should be cozy here.

Vote##cheesecake


that's MISTER cheesecake!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 16:06 GMT
#322
Hmm can we lynch Artanis? He wouldn't play nice with me.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 16:25 GMT
#323
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 16:32 GMT
#325
On January 08 2014 01:31 Corazon wrote:
Why don't we lynch Yamato? His filter is 2 pages of absolutely nothing.


So is my filter basically and we shouldn't lynch me
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 16:40 GMT
#327
On January 08 2014 01:38 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 01:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 08 2014 01:31 Corazon wrote:
Why don't we lynch Yamato? His filter is 2 pages of absolutely nothing.


So is my filter basically and we shouldn't lynch me

No, go look at Yamato's filter. I just looked at yours and you have a few good posts talking about gumshoe. Yamato literally has nothing.


useless Yamato = scum yamato? If only I had a flip in a certain game for reference... ugh
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 16:50 GMT
#330
On January 08 2014 01:47 Corazon wrote:
Yamato's scum game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256&user=InsertSmurfHere

The only difference I see now is that he has no effort put into his posts.


I see walls of text on the first page, looks opposite to this game lol
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:39 GMT
#344
On January 08 2014 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ!
##Vote Mr. Cheesecake


The point is that you didnt care about conversation and talking just said it wasmt alignment indicative and left it at that. didnt seem interested in beginning the game apart from trolling.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:40 GMT
#345
On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.


Are you even reading my posts?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#346
And now we have DRAMA! hehehe
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:50 GMT
#351
On January 08 2014 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ!
##Vote Mr. Cheesecake


The point is that you didnt care about conversation and talking just said it wasmt alignment indicative and left it at that. didnt seem interested in beginning the game apart from trolling.

If you ask me about a certain thing I answer it. You gave me something and asked if you thought it was alignment indicative, I disagreed. That you're willing to call me scum off it shows to me that you're looking for a target rather than looking for scum.


You aren't thinking about this critically. Its not specifically the answers i dont like. its the fact that you didnt seem interested at all in getting content into the game.

And i never called you scum, somebody is paranoid. I did express the notion to lynch you, maybe that was the kickstart this game needed.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:53 GMT
#354
The conclusion I have reached is that artanis totally flipped when I casually said to lynch him. Lol. Mad town or mad mafia - which?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:59 GMT
#358
On January 08 2014 03:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
can you provide quotes

On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.


Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.

I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

First he attacks me here, then realizes he messed up.
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On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]
I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

I'd consider that trying to make friends. Then he asks me some questions and comes back with
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On January 08 2014 01:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm can we lynch Artanis? He wouldn't play nice with me.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

Despite having answered his questions. He's casting suspicion on me because I refuse to call something that I feel isn't alignment indicative alignment indicative. I suspect because I refused his advances because he wasn't sexy enough.


I 'attacked' you because i was confused for not reading the spoilered quote, it was unwarranted. Not going to push something that was wrong when i realized that i was being dumb.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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