I need to go to bed so this:

I think gumshoe is scum for what i have said in thread.

I think thrawn is scum for not giving reasons for his "rayn might be scum" read. It makes no sense because he is unwilling to clarify his thought process behind his read. Thinking i could be fakeclaiming is not alignment indicative. Not giving reasons for "why" is. I don't think thrawn has any reasons for thinking i could be fakeclaiming and is using "he did that in another game" as a reasoning, which is not legit. That is not a reason why i would do it this game. Also his voting / unvoting gumshoe is fishy, because it makes no sense. He gives town the hammer but at the same time says "do not hammer". That's not how voting works. You vote for kill mafia, if you are not confident enough about your vote yet, you don't vote.

Hammer gumshoe - vig thrawn. Profit for D2!
Good night. <3

raynpelikoneet

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January 04 2014 03:19 GMT

#311

CC you just said a while ago tyou want to hammer him, why the sudden change of mind?

raynpelikoneet

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January 04 2014 03:24 GMT

#314

I am really sure he is scum. Like really really.

raynpelikoneet

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January 04 2014 03:34 GMT

#317

On January 04 2014 12:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
this has the potential to be really really awesome.

FTFY

raynpelikoneet

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January 04 2014 03:36 GMT

#321

This lynch is my baby.

raynpelikoneet

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January 04 2014 20:56 GMT

#365

Thank you Sentinel for listening to me on thrawn (or good job or whatever your reasoning was ^^). Apologies guys for D1 lynch, i was really bad and that was bad from me.

I'll shut up for some time so people can actually talk and we don't end up with a clusterfuck like D1 lynch.
I was roleblocked.

raynpelikoneet

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January 04 2014 21:03 GMT

#367

I got told my check didn't go through.

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 00:13 GMT

#370

On January 05 2014 06:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
I thought i had you caught in a lie sorry rayn

Do you believe sent and CC about their claims?

Why should i not believe them?

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 03:54 GMT

#374

On January 04 2014 11:31 kushm4sta wrote:
catching up now

On January 05 2014 12:01 kushm4sta wrote:
FINALLY I GET TO PLAY. Unfortunately the game is already near solved. Kind of a disappointment but w/e. I'll read some filters tonight.

2) alakaslam (filter)
?

4) Hopeless1der (filter)
?

5) Raynpelikoneet (filter)
?

6) coagulation (filter)
?

7) [UoN]Sentinel (filter)
confirmed town

8) Yamato77 (filter)
?

10) Mr. Cheesecake (filter)
confirmed town

On D1 you said you were catching up.
Why did you end up not catching up then?

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 04:23 GMT

#378

woah, kush has been reading filters. he must be town then.

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 04:54 GMT

#381

yamato
town. just town. His early suspicion on thrawn doesn't look like a bus. Plus process of elimination (I already have one too many scummers lol)

kush explain this read, preferrably with quotes.

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 05:09 GMT

#384

Like that's your only reason to think he is town and it's a thing that does not even exist..

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 05:09 GMT

#385

I've given my reasoning on D1 on Slam. Not totally sure he is town and need more posts from him especially now that we have flips.

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 10:37 GMT

#421

Besides Sentinel and Mr.CC, in the next post you make, claim your role and actions on N1!
If you do not do this you are mafia.
I am a parity cop and tried to check thrawn, got roleblocked.

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 10:38 GMT

#422

Oh and:
##Vote: yamato77

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 10:42 GMT

#424

afaik kushm4sta is voting for Alakaslam.

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 10:47 GMT

#427

Well you are mafia because the only post where you give any sort of reads is a post where you doubt all the players in the game. Including the blue claims, which means there must be more blues or your post is completely useless. If there are no more blues than the climed ones it cannot be possible that the claims are mafia. You are not trying to resolve this situation by asking the real blues to claim (which would solve the game since we have a mislynch), therefore your only real post in this game is completely bullshity.

You, yamato, are one of the most obvious town players there is on the planet. You have opinions as town, at least when the game is on D2 and there are two flips which one of them is mafia, and night actions to analyze. The only thing you can come up with is a bullshit theory about scum shooting their own and all the blues in the game fakeclaiming with no counter claims.

This is like the most obvioius mafia catch in the game.

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 11:35 GMT

#428

Alakaslam i want you to clarify a couple of things:

You made a case on Hopeless based on him proposing a random lynch and his voting behavior.

1) The random lynch is in fact a random lynch so how is that alignment indicative? Why does proposing a random lynch at the start of the game make Hopeless mafia?
2) Where exactly is Hopeless soft-defending gumshoe on D1, i can't see it?
3) If you are stanfding behind your accusation of Hopeless soft-defending gumshoe, how can you say you were not doing the same thing? In my opinion you (using your terms and logic) are "soft-defending" gumshoe just as much as Hopeless as your voting behavior and stance on random lynch matches exactly Hopeless' on D1.
4) Who is the other mafia in your opinion besides Hopeless?

raynpelikoneet

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January 05 2014 12:11 GMT

#429

So this is what yamato is suggesting.

There are three blue claims. Me, Mr.SexyCake, and Sentinel can't all be mafia, so there are 2 scenarios he is considering:

1) Mr.CC and Sentinel are both fake-claiming and i am telling the truth. This can't possibly be true because that would mean there would be another blue claim and they would have shot their own scumbuddy. Town mislynched on D1 so instead of trying to mislynch on D2 they are giving town a mislynch by shooting their scumbuddy and instantly losing the game if someone claims blue on D2 (if someone claims we lynch one of Sent/CC or the blue claim - if the blue claim turns up blue, scum lose). This is ridiculosu to even consider.

2) I decided to fakeclaim parity cop 1h into the game instead of just not claiming. This makes no sense given that yamato knows how confident i am at my scumplay. Let's entertain a scenario that i did something very stupid (which i would never do) as mafia. The only reason i would do that as mafia is to assume there is no parity cop in the game - because one-one trade is ridiculous in a game where i can just mislynch 2 townies and win the game. There is no counter-claim. I have gained the town credit i was looking for. Good. What's my next move. I decide to buss my teammate thrawn by asking a vigilante to shoot him on N1. I already know there is no parity cop in the game because noone counter-claimed me, so the reasonable assumption is that there is a vigilante in the game. So i made a stupid and a risky claim that could end up in a 1-1 trade, when it worked, i make a stupid move that risks my scumbuddy being shot or lynched on D2 for town-credit i have already gained from my fake claim. In addition to all this stupidness thrawn, my scumbuddy, does not give me the town credit from my fake claim (which was the point of my scumteam in the first place) but instead attacks me and we go 1vs1 with him ensuring we pretty much tunnel each other on D2 - that will most likely end up in one of us getting lynched. So me, raynpelikoneet, did this as mafia, instead of... just lynching townies and playing scum as i normally do, by controlling the thread. Ridiculous.

Based purely on yamato even considering something this stupid he is mafia, 100%.