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On January 29 2014 20:48 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 20:28 Promethelax wrote:
We lynch austin tomorrow. This is not even a debate. He had a scummy switch to sand d1 he has played under the radar. He was the only vote not on foolishness d3. Austin's behaviour has been scummy the only reason he wasn't scum is that he and fool were not scum together. Hmm. I seem to be very short of convinced. I also don't see what made his switch to sandroba scummy when nobody considered it as such days ago.
I did. His and marv's were both scummy.
Sand is a detriment to his team. When he is up against two townies in me and foolishness you need to make sure you look good from his flip because it will come d1 or d2. So quick switching around deadline when I had clearly had foolish as more scummy and Hapa wasn't present was an easy way to do that. Scum expected not to get sand lynched d1 but to look good from having voted him but Hapa and I went over in the last two minutes and scum could not change their votes, they were stuck on sand.
The middle votes were scummy. On top of that the scum shots have all been into the group of players who voted sand to reinforce the idea that everyone on that vote was town. Shooting outside of it would have been fine to eliminate players like Kita who had no suspicion on him and is a better analyst than Gonzaw. But they needed the idea of fool's to take hold.
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Look, I have to go to school and get things done today. I don't have time to be convincing before the night shot. Don't care, I won't be night shot. Fo' serious.
When I come back I'll have cases on the last two scum. We will all discuss them in a rational manner as if any of you believe I'm not scum. At that point you can all cast your votes and either lynch me or lynch scum. Either way the game will essentially be over or just flat out be over. One team can celebrate while the other cries. We can all be mad at foolishness for trying to get me lynched all game.
I will devote the free time I don't have over the next few days to this game. I will build two cases on two scum. Those are my promises to my town.
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On January 23 2014 15:12 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 08:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Please stop posting.
Final Vote Count - Deadline at Wednesday, Jan 22 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Sandroba (5): gonzaw, austinmcc, marvellosity, Hapahauli, Promethelax, marvellosity, kitaman27, kitaman27
Promethelax (3): Foolishness, Kitaman27, Sandroba, Hapahauli, VisceraEyes
Foolishness (2): VisceraEyes, WaveofShadow, Hapahauli, Promethelax gonzaw, marvellosity, marvellosity, kitaman27, gonzaw
gonzaw (1): HolyFlare
Kitaman27 (0): Promethelax, WaveofShadow
WaveOfShadow (0): Foolishness
HolyFlare (0): marvellosity, kitaman27, gonzaw VisceraEyes
Hapahauli (0): VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes (0): Hapahauli, kitaman27
Not voted (0)
If you notice a mistake, please let us know!
Sandroba is set to be lynched. So from this I'd say at least one scum is not on sandro and if a scum is on sand he isn't around at deadline. Since all votes on sand were at deadline only Austin/Marv could be scum voters since they'd be the ones believing scumdroba wouldn't be lynched and getting credit from it (assuming fool is town, not a great assumption though) think Marv is better at reading thread sentiment and would know that the switch was going to happen moe than Austin. Gonzaw, me, Hapa are town from lynch. Gon/hap town already anyways so I don't learn anything here. Marv and Kita look bad for unvoting scum. Kita more than Marv. I think. Not sure. I would not be shocked if last two scum are in WoS, VE, holy, fool Kita. I need to looking to possible pairs. I think VE is best .ynch of those. Going to reread sand now.
But it wasn't a highly worthwhile line of reasoning with VE being VE d1 and d2. And I got caught up in the fool hate d3 which clouded my thoughts and made me too blind to see him as town (his retarded tunnel on me didn't help either)
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On January 29 2014 21:06 marvellosity wrote:
I don't want you to be scum, still. boo.
You know I'm not. Don't pretend.
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On January 29 2014 21:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 21:07 Promethelax wrote:On January 29 2014 21:06 marvellosity wrote:
I don't want you to be scum, still. boo. You know I'm not. Don't pretend. Comments like this aren't helping.
Two scenerios
1. Scummarv
-you know based on me not being your buddy in your role pm
2. Townmarv
-you know because you know me and my play and I'm clearly town this game
Either way you know. Which is fun because either you are town and will defend me from a lynch or you are scum and you have to pretend to defend me from a lynch because you know town you would.
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SON OF A WHORE!
I just deleted a post I spent two hours writing about why Austin/marv are scum and WoS/Toad are town.
I'm off to rewrite it.
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Marv talks about his scumplay in scumcast 3
1. marv busses when he has to
2. marv pushes the easiest lynches
things I know about marv
3. marv makes his team post a lot
4. marv tailors his scum play to the other players in the game
marv has played this game as a scum. He has never stuck his neck out and has never been in the middle of pushing lynches. He allowed the town to push the lynch and never had a leading role in anything. Scummarv.
marv bussed a weak and detrimental scummer d1 when there was last minute shennanies which marv HAS to participate in due to meta and Sand was going to be lynched. Marv would look awful if he wasn't on that lynch and on it early.
marv has treated me in a way he doesn't treat me in our town games together, he has hard defended me and now that I am the only possible mislynch has begun to doubt his own reads. He has never read me incorrectly before and doing so now is a scumtell. His reads have not evolved on any player in this game he had Foolishness as 100% confirmed town and yet was happy to lynch him.
My formatting and language aren't as nice in this post as they were in the first. Sorry.
Reasons to lynch marv second out of Austin/marv: marv will be easier to lynch in 2v1 lylo. If I cannot convince town to lynch the other scum today I won't be able to do it next day so you might as well lynch me and lose the game. Better to not waste another full cycle patting yourselves on the back for having caught me as scum just to lynch me and lose three days from now.
Basically if town cannot be convinced to kill Austin today they won't be convinced next day so why bother.
Reasons Austin is scum:
1. my earlier case. It was right but when I realized that fool was not scum with Austin I dismissed the wrong player form my list of scumspects. I was too caught up in Fool's shitty case on me and my own anger towards him. Poor play on my part lead to me being part of a bad lynch. Town (and fool most of all) I'm sorry.
2. Austin is really really mad about how I correctly read WoS as town based on nothing. Correct reads for bad reasons incense mafia members because their jobs become harder when townies do correct dumb things. The scummer gets overly invested in that read though because they know it is a good read for a bad reason.
3. Austin has at no point shown why I am scum, he is pushing my lynch because it is easy to do but he does it with the words of dead townies. Foolishness and VE weren't playing well, otherwise we wouldn't have lynched them. So trusting thier reads on me is silly to the point of scummy. There has not been a single good case on me in the thread, nothing which has in any way shown that I have played this game in a way that I do not play as town. Because I am town and I have played this way.
4. I'm sick of losing to Austin's scum teams, can't we lynch him just once.
Why Toad is town:
I had a case on this earlier. It holds up.
Why Wos is town:
his amount of posting has been good, he posted some things about himself and VE which were at best suicidal as scum. They showed a really great insight into his mentality where he thought about being wrong that VE was town and hedged his bets to look less wrong in case VE flipped scum, it was clear he was no aware of VE's alignment before the flip. He cannot be scum and this is why.
Sorry for the formatting, I'm too mad at myself for deleting the last one to do this one right.
Austin: come at me bro
##Vote: austin
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I have 5.5 hours until I leave for work. In that time I need to convince WoS and Toad to vote with me to kill scum.
Are either of you around?
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On February 01 2014 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:
I am. I think you're better of trying to convince WoS and trying to get Marv to abort his bus on you.
If you seriously aren't willing to listen to me I'm happy to just go to sleep before I go to work. If you have any interest in listening and trying to help me win the game for town I will stay here and keep myself awake through my usual sleep time before work.
If you are totally decided already and unwilling to listen to me do me the kindness of telling me so I don't waste my time trying.
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Just answer my question please. If you won't be swayed by anything I have no reason to stick around and fight this lynch. I need to convince both you and WoS and if you are unwilling to be convinced I won't try.
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On February 01 2014 01:43 Toadesstern wrote:
I really don't think I'm going to switch to someone else. Sorry I know that's going to be furstrating (no matter of alignment), I went through that in the failgame as well but yeah I really don't see me changing my vote today
Cool thanks for at least admitting it. Sorry for playing bad and helping to lose town this game. See you guys in the end game conversation.
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Because, as you'd know if you read my post, it is a waste of time. If town won't lynch Austin with me today they won't lynch Austin with me tomorrow. I could lynch marv, we'd all celebrate and next day I'd be the mislynch and we'd lose. I'm not wasting my time fighting a lynch that is meaningless to the overall game.
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Nope. I have no desire to discuss this with mafia until the endgame. This game is over.
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Guys, this is cute and all but it is a serious waste of your time. This game is over in 2.5 hours.
WoS I'm not bothering to try to convince you because Toad refuses to be convinced, it isn't worth anyone's time for me to try.
I'm heading out soon and just wanted to say: GG scum, sorry I didn't fight harder I played poorly and I'm pretty embarrassed about it. I wrote a poem about it for my shadow though which I'd like to share.
I had such a nice post,
it had links, it had quotes
I wrote up some facts
and I wrote up some things.
The town it would have made king.
I hit back on my browser unthinking.
Now in bed straight whiskey I'm drinking.
I'm undressed and depressed
because at this game of mafia I'm stinking.
So yeah, well played scum guys, sorry I sucked town guys. I really think the Foolishness lynch was terrible and sealed town's fate, looking back on it that day as well as the previous one were essentially wasted, we as a town got nothing out of those days and I feel really bad about my part in those them. Foolishness, VE, I'm sorry to both of you you really shouldn't have been lynched. I played poorly and this loss is on my shoulders.
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Austin: go read ## mafia where I started kinda scummy almost got lynched multiple times. WoS and marv were both in it and it was like a month ago.
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Certain enough. You could be scum with marv but you have played a good game and my gut has you as town for some things I can't quite put into words. In terms of things that I can pin point the way you talked about VE looks really genuine and damn silly from a scum perspective.
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On February 01 2014 05:49 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 05:44 Promethelax wrote:
Certain enough. You could be scum with marv but you have played a good game and my gut has you as town for some things I can't quite put into words. In terms of things that I can pin point the way you talked about VE looks really genuine and damn silly from a scum perspective. Do you want to vote marv today?
You mean to I want to postpone my demise and the town loss by a cycle? Not really.
Do I want to vote marv because I like lynching marv and I'm sure he is scum...sure why the fuck not.
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On February 01 2014 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 05:50 marvellosity wrote:
If Wave is mafia, I'm going to stop playing mafia. That's all. Oh horseshit. What if I really was playing just this good of a scumgame? It's honestly not that hard if you simply abandon 'mafia agenda' and just pretend to be town and absorb all the risks that come with it.
shhhh marv thinks he is fooling someone. Don't ruin it for him.
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On February 01 2014 06:41 austinmcc wrote:
Basically that ^
#montpeliervermont
Are you doing enough research right now into my past to go to my house?!
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Montpellier Vermont is about an hour from the house I was born in.
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