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I'm going to go ahead and say this, because I feel like I have to. I would have switched to Sand if I were here when the stuff was going down. Like, I know that it doesn't mean anything, but I feel like people should at least consider that motivation coming from me as well - I think my posts leading up to lynch should indicate that I WAS looking at Sand more than I had been previously (read: tunnel Prome vs. mentioning other players). Whatever you THINK about my absence at lynch time, the fact is I simply wasn't here because I could not be. I cared about the lynch, I just wasn't here for the lynch.
Now, I'm reading. I MAY be able to respond to questions.
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Is there any reason we're ruling out a Foolishness/Sandroba/Promethelax scumteam?
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Not good ones. Like, Foolish was the most active of those three players. Chew on that for a minute.
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The lynch could have easily been on Foolishness. He's right about that. There's no reason for a scumteam to save Foolishness if he's town.
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So imagine that inactive Prom and inactive sand ARE both scum. What does scumFoolish do? He busses one of them.
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Except then the lynch swings to the other one.
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If Foolish had been lynched then Prom would have looked better. Sand being lynched says nothing at all, but it wasn't scum motivated. Scum wanted Foolish or Prom to be the one that flipped.
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In this post, scumFoolish tries to make town believe that scum VE and scum WoS, rather than try and save sandroba somehow, just lazily plop our votes down on Foolish. Because THAT doesn't draw attention to people!
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Especially when one of the people in question is EXPLICIT about not wanting to lynch Foolishness D1!
You're up Foolish. :D
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Who was sandroba voting for?
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My point is that you have to also factor in that scumSandroba just flipped. If we're scum, what are we doing about Sandroba being lynched? Why would I bring up sandroba in the lasts posts I make before the lynch? That doesn't make any sense and you know it.
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Like, let me rephrase what I said earlier. If I were around, I would have switched to EITHER Prom OR sand. But Foolish was on Prom and felt like he was manipulating me so I was hesitating and then I got caught up and never made it back to the thread. But I would have joined in on the shenannies in some form is my point - anyone who has played with me should know that.
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On January 24 2014 05:02 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, let me rephrase what I said earlier. If I were around, I would have switched to EITHER Prom OR sand. But Foolish was on Prom and felt like he was manipulating me so I was hesitating and then I got caught up and never made it back to the thread. Weren't you around with 20 minutes to go. Why couldn't you switch then?
I literally just answered this in the post you quoted. It's explicit in my posting at the time. Why are you asking me this?
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No gonzaw, it's explicit in my posts. -.-
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On January 23 2014 06:48 VisceraEyes wrote:I'm willing to vote him - I'm just hesitant. And Foolish looks like he's trying to manipulate me and it hurts my soul. 
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I'm just not ruling it out - I haven't reread the thread yet, I was just filtering Foolishness.
The important thing to remember when considering my read of Foolishness is that I know that I'm town.
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On January 24 2014 05:05 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 06:48 VisceraEyes wrote:I'm willing to vote him - I'm just hesitant. And Foolish looks like he's trying to manipulate me and it hurts my soul.
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On January 24 2014 05:10 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
If I were around, I would have switched to EITHER Prom OR sand. Show me where this is explicit Even if this was true, don't see how it makes you town. Show nested quote +But I would have joined in on the shenannies in some form is my point - anyone who has played with me should know that. Again, show me where this is explicit. You haven't posted a single REAL reason for Prome or Foo to be scum yet VE. The last thing I remember you posting about Prome is "Ehmm I'm not sure about that stream of posts he made, they seem disingenuous". The last thing I remember you posting about Foolishness is.....well, nothing, because you posted nothing: Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 10:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Here's something that I still find off about Foolish's reentry post. On January 22 2014 07:19 Foolishness wrote:The thing with VE is that yes, on his own some of his posts are suspicious. This one in particular made me raise an eyebrow: + Show Spoiler +On January 22 2014 01:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Morning guys. Marv no, I don't think it's the same kind of Prome that I'm used to seeing. What it reminds me of is that game I was the mayor and lynched the piss out of Prome D1. He was a lurky little shit that game, but I caught him on something very similar to what I noticed this game. Like I think it's awful that I have to ask this, but did you read my post on him?
That being said, I at least dig one of his targets. I asked Foolish about his thoughts on this same matter and what I got is "lol you and Hapa townies" which is definitely NOT what I was after. He answered my question as if he'd read the exchange between us, but left me with a feeling that he hadn't actually read anything at all.
If I see one more person say they're going to ignore my posts, I won't be responsible for the outcome. You have been warned. However I think if you just read through his filter and analyze it as a whole there's nothing to be afraid of. Is he pushing any sort of mafia agenda? No. Does it feel like he doesn't have the town's best interest in mind? No. Does it feel like he's actually trying to figure things out? Yes. This is where he explains his super townread of me right? But look at the bolded bit. He's criticizing me asking marv about my Prom post and the part where I share my observation about our interaction, but says that the TOWNIE bit is the last two sentences, the "fluffy" angry nonsense at the end. Like, I'm trying to wrap my head around this. He thinks I'm town, presumably he knows that I share at least Promethelax as a scumread, but he tries to lightly discredit me while calling me townie? And after the entire post, I STILL don't know if he actually READ my post on Promethelax. Something doesn't add up. I'm missing something, somewhere. Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean, if he'd provided some context with it that would be one thing.
"It looks forced, as if he didn't have anything to say but felt like he had to say something"
or
"It looks out of place, as if he remembered he hadn't mentioned X and just threw it in there because he was expected to"
or something like that. But just saying those words is pretty silly, especially when you're talking about one of your strongest townreads, you know? Die please
You haven't showed a single reason why I'm scum yet either gonzaw, seriously just stop.
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Like, you MIGHT get your lynch on me tomorrow, and if you do I'll flip green. Just, please stop trying to convince me I'm scum.
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