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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 19:48 GMT
#664
The thread obviously doesn't have a great direction right now. 95% of the time, I'd go out on a limb and push someone that I had even a weak scum read on, even if I wasn't very confident. However, with Holy out of the picture, all the people who I'd want to do this for either don't have enough posts to put together a compelling argument. By the time they do, I fear that I'll be on my drive home from work and won't have enough time to respond -_-

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 19:51 GMT
#668
Those are two people on my short list, but I wouldn't single those guys out from sandroba or marv. For the sake of consolidating, I'd be satisfied with those two as the main candidate, but the final vote would still likely be based on their final posts.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 20:10 GMT
#677
The part of Foolishness's play that makes him most likely to be mafia this game is his disregard for his town image. Even in the games where he is a slow starting townie, he still puts a priority on avoiding the day one mislynch by making it clear that he is town. He has never been mislynched as town, so allowing this to happen in a shadow game would be seem to be out of character.

I think it's pretty likely that he hasn't checked back since his last large post, so I'm not sure I'm willing to come to the conclusion that he doesn't care, rather than assuming he isn't around. I do believe that it was PTP2 where he simply disappeared and we flipped him on day 2, leaving us pretty underwhelmed, so it's not out of the question.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 20:10 GMT
#678
On January 23 2014 05:10 kitaman27 wrote:
The part of Foolishness's play that makes him most likely to be mafia this game is his disregard for his town image. Even in the games where he is a slow starting townie, he still puts a priority on avoiding the day one mislynch by making it clear that he is town. He has never been mislynched as town, so allowing this to happen in a shadow game would be seem to be out of character.

I think it's pretty likely that he hasn't checked back since his last large post, so I'm not sure I'm willing to come to the conclusion that he doesn't care, rather than assuming he isn't around. I do believe that it was PTP2 where he simply disappeared and we flipped him on day 2, leaving us pretty underwhelmed, so it's not out of the question.


Hmm, ninja'd.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 20:14 GMT
#682
bah I wish I didn't save Prom for last.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 20:27 GMT
#694
On January 23 2014 05:20 Foolishness wrote:
You're here and posting, should be obvious that you are town. He's not here and not posting, and that speaks volumes for him.


Could you explain how this applies to austin and not Prom's recent set of big posts.

I haven't found much merit in the recent set of posts by prom, but nor do I find austin's all that special. How did you differentiate the two?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 20:49 GMT
#703
I think marv, sandroba, Prom is my personal top three right now.

If foolishness is mafia with someone like VE/Holy, he is doing a great job at appealing to my interests XD
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#720
On January 21 2014 11:35 Promethelax wrote:
Since we aren't the run of the mill hokey dory TL types I think its time we set a few ground rules: there should be no discussion of policy lynching lurkers. We simply lynch them. If everyone is good enough to be shadowed everyone is good enough to play the game and we cannot tolerate lurkers.


Prom hasn't followed his own policy, but in the past I've been known to make policy posts in attempt to discourage a behavior, without willing to follow through. It is worth noting that he states that he cannot tolerate lurkers, yet is willing to lynch one of the more active players.

On January 21 2014 11:35 Promethelax wrote:
I'm town, I have to figure things out. I would much rather lie to you all but fuck me, I don't get to lie to you. I gotta work for my money.


I can't imagine that I would ever find myself making a post like this as town with a straight face.

On January 21 2014 11:41 Promethelax wrote:
I have but you guys had to go and produce actual content while I was bitching about having no content. Stellar start to the game, eh?


This reminds me of the kind of posts you see scum make when they aren't around for a mislynch.

I'm not very swayed by VE's argument that he is treating Wave and VE differently based off similar posts. Even if it may be true, I don't see the reason for giving preferential treatment, though there may be the concern of a read he made up on the spot, rather than a town player looking for evidence.

He defends marv when I really don't think there is a reason to defend him. This may make Prom-marv scum team less likely on second thought.

He attacks my post about calling people scummy. I thought it was obvious that I wasn't being serious, but I will concede that it is possible that might not be the case.

On January 23 2014 00:00 Promethelax wrote:
Rest of the thread: this post adds nothing to the discussion, doesn't do anything but castigate Gonzaw (a player who, based on length of post alone looks townie) and tries to throw doubt everywhere. It reminds me of a Kita scum game with WBG where the two of them got in the thread every time a lylch they didn't like was discussed to talk shit about the lynch by attacking the guy who was leading said lynch. Can anyone remember said game? Either way, that is with or without that meta, this rings of scum to me enough that I am comfortable laying down a
##Vote:Kitaman


My stance on the gonzaw/Foolishness interaction was perfectly reasonable. I felt it was invalid to apply a meta case to a player who had 3 posts. Prom fails to explain the mafia motivation for my dissatisfaction with gonzaw's case. I clearly wasn't trying to lead a lynch against gonzaw, so what was I doing? Protecting my scum buddy Foolishness? He attempts to draw the comparison to The Game mafia suggesting that I was attacking a lynch I didn't like. Yet my vote on Foolishness suggests otherwise. I'm hardly playing thread bully like he suggests.

On January 23 2014 00:00 Promethelax wrote:
But that is the thing, no? Kita is attacking the case on Fool while voting for him. He says that trolly starts are a fooolish M.O. but is voting Fool off of said start. My brain is thoroughly wrinkled.


In fact, he even references my vote on Foolishness. The fact that he is incapable of considering the town motivation to vote a player who had not produced content is puzzling. Even if I hold the stance that gonzaw had provided a bad case, doesn't mean that I'm unwilling to work towards the same goal. He doesn't attempt to explain my motivation, rather he states that he is confused by it.

I don't find his stream of stream of consciousness posts unreasonable. In his second newbie game, he showed that he was capable of
making large posts as mafia. I don't think they contribute much to the thread, as very few of his ideas are new, but I don't have an issue with the posts that he did decide to highlight.

With his vote based on the events up to page 18, he doesn't update his thoughts based on having full knowledge of the thread. It seems like there is a lack of interaction with the rest of the thread, but that could be due to the fact that he is playing catch up for half the game. I don't feel as if these posts were presented because he had a strong idea that he wanted to push, rather he was forced to push out content because he hadn't posted in so long.

There are just so many other things to comment on this game that I find it incredibly hard to believe that Prom thinks that I am the best lynch this cycle. I'm leaning scum on him, but not to the point where I'm 100% confident. He is my strongest read, however, so I think he is the best lynch at the moment.

##Vote Prom
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#734
gonzaw, could you respond to my prom post and let me know if you think it holds any merit?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 21:47 GMT
#736
On January 23 2014 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know man, the catchup posts seemed disingenuous, but I'm afraid I'm biased. Based on the posts I'm more willing to admit that I could be wrong about Prome, and yes the alternatives are looking better.


So you strongly believed Prom was mafia at the start, you don't believe that Prom's posts since then make him town, yet you're unwilling to vote him when given the chance?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 21:55 GMT
#741
On January 23 2014 06:47 gonzaw wrote:
I dunno, I have to reread his filter to do that. I'm kind of bummed right now.

Why can't all of you guys be good townies and not do scummy shit?


Are you willing to do so within the next hour?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:07 GMT
#759
Rather than getting replaced, I believe sandroba prefers this approach:

Sandroba: whoa 3 minutes from the lynch already? Sorry guys, I've been much more busy partying than I intended. I'll be sure to catch up tomorrow, I swear.

Sandroba Day 2: LOL NOPE.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:07 GMT
#760
On January 23 2014 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
Why don't we just kill the dude who doesn't care about town after all?
Kinda curious that Fool has 4 ppl as likely mafia (Prome, holy, me, sand) but...willing to test him on sand for now.

##Vote: sandroba


Still waiting on your prom thoughts.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:16 GMT
#769
On January 23 2014 07:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 06:57 marvellosity wrote:
Why is VE playing in some other random scrub game and not in this game at deadline btw?

That's not very nice. :/


marv so mean. I'd never treat you that way VE.

Heading home so I'll be afk for the next 30 minutes or so.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:17 GMT
#771
^ That's a decent observation
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:46 GMT
#814
On January 23 2014 07:42 gonzaw wrote:
kita where are you. Post stuff, it's definition time and you were one of the ones that propelled the Prome wagon


On January 23 2014 07:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Heading home so I'll be afk for the next 30 minutes or so.


Just got back.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:47 GMT
#818
On January 23 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
There's two very smelly people on the Prome wagon and sandroba aint flying because mysteriously he's not a good lynch to fool
##unvote
##vote: Foolishness


To be clear, you're voting Foolishness because you think he is mafia and prom is not, rather than voting based on who is on what wagon, correct?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#827
On January 23 2014 07:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 07:46 Promethelax wrote:
On January 23 2014 07:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Ya know what, I'm retarded.

##Unvote

##Vote Foolishness


I still want your reasoning on me being scum, even for five seconds. What is going on in that pointy little head of yours? And why fool over me?


Well I was typing up this post about you not being interested in consolidation, and your "summary" posts mostly being fluff.

Then three things happened:
1) You've been pretty active in the leadup to the lynch


I'm not sure if you're caught up but this is 100% false. He was active in the early morning and has been absent since. He has played no role in pushing this lynch.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:51 GMT
#830
On January 23 2014 07:50 austinmcc wrote:
I'm happy voting prome or sandro. People who are on foolishness and NOT marv, you are unlikely to swap to prome?


I'm happy where I am, so you should join me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 22 2014 22:54 GMT
#841
On January 23 2014 07:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 07:50 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 23 2014 07:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 23 2014 07:46 Promethelax wrote:
On January 23 2014 07:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Ya know what, I'm retarded.

##Unvote

##Vote Foolishness


I still want your reasoning on me being scum, even for five seconds. What is going on in that pointy little head of yours? And why fool over me?


Well I was typing up this post about you not being interested in consolidation, and your "summary" posts mostly being fluff.

Then three things happened:
1) You've been pretty active in the leadup to the lynch


I'm not sure if you're caught up but this is 100% false. He was active in the early morning and has been absent since. He has played no role in pushing this lynch.


No, but he's active now, and doesn't sound all that panicked and is not pushing any self-serving agendas.


voting foolishness isn't a self-serving agenda?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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