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On January 23 2014 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know man, the catchup posts seemed disingenuous, but I'm afraid I'm biased. Based on the posts I'm more willing to admit that I could be wrong about Prome, and yes the alternatives are looking better.

The thing about Prome is that there's no POP to his posts - when he's town, when he thinks he's found something suspicious something clicks and his confidence shoots up and you can see it in his posts. I didn't get that feeling when he was posting about you. But again, I'm not sure how much of it is my own bias speaking.

Foolishness/Sandroba/HolyFlare are three targets who are, in my opinion, well equipped to prove their worth D1 if they're town. That none of them has been able to do this is troubling to me.

On January 31 2014 10:26 Toadesstern wrote:
yes bussing him is probably the right decision at this moment

On January 31 2014 10:29 austinmcc wrote:
It's tough to pop while hiding

On January 31 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
I actually understood to some degree what austin was getting at at the time to be honest. I also don't find the line of thought scummy in any way, really. He dropped when you explained it the best, here.

On January 31 2014 10:54 WaveofShadow wrote:

Is there anything else?
Do you think the final scumteam is austin and prome?
Is Toad involved?

On January 22 2014 23:42 Promethelax wrote:


Will follow up on this as I read but this post stands out on my so-bad-it-has-to-come-from-town radar. The post so deeply misunderstands how to play mafia as a whole and places pressure so fully away from anything resembling clear thought that it does nothing. I cannot expound enough on how poor I think this line of thought is.
But I don't see it coming from a scummer since my memory of HF is that he doesn't suck at scum and wouldn't post something so totally awful if he was concerned about how other people read him.

On January 31 2014 11:00 austinmcc wrote:
That's more or less kita's question.

I don't think it's a scum-marv comment. He's not scum because he said that. He's scum for general feel, for the brainz question, for his willingness to sit in the backseat this game EVEN AS THE GAME GOES TO ENDGAME (look at foolishness's posts on kita/toad/prome, kita's post on Sandroba's willingness to bus, and compare that to anything that marv has put forth). That comment just made me go look harder at his D1 voting, and also just...fight with him about it but it's not a town/scum battleground. He just got really bristly and I don't like the bristliness, or the fact that there's no ground given by either of us over whether the comment allows for a D3/D1 difference.

It's a long time back, but in Movie Mini marv gets to mid/middish game and goes nuts trying to hunt a scum roleblocker because that's the only way for town to POSSIBLY win. In champions he has a burst of activity in late midgame, trying to get things on the right track for town. Even when marv isn't LEADING, marv wants to SOLVE the game.

We're one day from endgame and marv still wasn't even convinced on prome, for the longest time today, and he's still not voting and doesn't appear to be fully convinced. Foolishness and Kita put in legwork, I ... opened LX in another tab and have not looked at it much, and marv is just content to fret over who might or might not be scum. Except not really, because he's not taking any stances, he's not burst of activity-ing. He's just sort of here to say that maybe some folks are mafia.

On January 31 2014 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:

Why is that hard to do as a scumteam?
That's an easy townread, and says more about a scum Prome than it does about a mafia Holy/Toad. If anything it makes Holy's theoretical scumplay more impressive to set Prome up for that easy townread.

On January 31 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:

But there's notably someone who else who had viewed the game as 'all wrong' from the start, and he started to re-evaluate early on. Hell even I started to re-evaluate Foolishness before he was lynched, because that is what townies do. I'm not saying everything austin pointed out here screams scum, but there are problems with your play here, and those problems ARE fair. Especially in considering how a lot of the competing thoughts and opinions were shut down that maybe would have made 'the way you view the game' a little less rigid and thus prevent things from 'falling down around you.'

On January 31 2014 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:

kk will you be around to talk tomorrow?
I will actually be pretty active for most of the day up until usual time pre-deadline.