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On January 26 2014 04:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
But it doesn't matter. If I haven't been here to do anything, you have to assume that my suspicions are still there. I didn't park my vote on the dude with the highest votes, I voted for the person I think is most likely to be scum.
Can't really assume that, when Foo's play completely changed overnight and this D2, and lots of stuff has been said about him.
I voted for the person I think is most likely to be scum
So why did you vote Wave before? Before I mentioned Foo had 3 votes and the Hapa case came after the scum shot, HE was your "most likely to be scum" guy.
THAT doesn't make absolutely any sense at all, specially if I assume you had the same suspicions about Foolishness.
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austin, VE's play this D2 can still be constructed as scummy (it is), even if I want him lynched as policy.
There's also all the shit being said about him on N1, which has some value, i.e he was not a sparkling pro-town sunshine ray, he was actually scummy as fuck.
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On January 26 2014 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ugh I can't tell if I like the fact that I don't know who's going to be lynched while I'm gone or I don't.
Gonzaw on a scale from 1-10, how likely are shenannies today? And if so, is today's '3rd place' a likely target (like yesterday)?
I get that it might not be possible 9or even a good idea) to answer this but I dunno, give me something mabes.
Can't really say. The shenannies are dependant on what people are doing at the deadline. Like last cycle, where shenannies happened only because of sandro's post 30 minutes before.
So if like, Foo or Toad or kita or VE do something incredibly stupid 30 minutes before deadline....maybe.
However, I think we are past the shenannies. Maybe we need a "calm" cycle with a normal lynch. If not it'll break the status quo to much man
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Toad, why are you refusing to talk about VE?
He's the hotspot in the thread at the moment, yet you are the only one going on a tangent with WoS about Foo or whatever and not discussing him at all.
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VE, so what about Toad? Anything to say about him?
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On January 26 2014 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 05:00 gonzaw wrote:
Toad, why are you refusing to talk about VE?
He's the hotspot in the thread at the moment, yet you are the only one going on a tangent with WoS about Foo or whatever and not discussing him at all. Isn't that because I've been asking him?
Well..yeah, but still.
You've been going in that back and forth with him, but you also discuss VE. Why can't he? Unless he still didn't have time to properly read filters or something
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Foolishness, are you around?
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On January 26 2014 05:30 austinmcc wrote:
I suppose mindvotes do not count
##vote: VisceraEyes
Let's test that
##Mindvote: austin
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We are at 4v4 (votes on Foo and VE) right now.
Very interesting...
I'm REALLY interested on what Foo has to say when he gets here. Will he keep FoSing WoS? Will he vote VE to save himself?
Does anybody have any thoughts about this lynch polarity right now?
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Something interesting to see, is this:
On January 25 2014 09:35 Foolishness wrote:
Town wins if WaveOfShadow, VisceraEyes, Kitaman, and Toad all die.
On January 26 2014 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 03:49 gonzaw wrote:On January 26 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 26 2014 03:45 gonzaw wrote:On January 26 2014 03:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nah I'm good on Wave. Like, Hapa died in a game with marv, Foolishness, kitaman etc. There must be a reason. I can't imagine that reason is framing Wave, but I concede that it's possible. Would be fine and dandy except you spend I dunno how many posts saying Wave is town. I have this thing about calling people town who think I'm town. I'm trying to not take that into account. But are willing to take into account some WIFOM shit about Hapa getting killed, and thus Wave is scum? Also, remember Hapa made that super case against Wave after scum's resolution period (where they had to send the kill) was over. There wasn't really any reason to think Hapa was 100% against Wave before that (Hapa was actually absent most of N1 by then). If scum killed Hapa, I can almost guarantee you it's not because they wanted to frame Wave. At least not in an obvious manner. Actually I did NOT take that into account. Thanks gonzaw. ##Unvote
##Vote: Foolishness
On January 25 2014 10:46 kitaman27 wrote:
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Foolishness is mafia
##Vote Foolishness
On January 26 2014 01:48 Toadesstern wrote:...
##unvote
##vote Foolishness
On January 25 2014 02:23 WaveofShadow wrote:...
I'm actually pretty pumped now tbh.
And I remembered something I should have remembered a while ago.
I feel pretty damn good about this right now, fuck the conspiracy theory for now, fuck VE, this is where we go today.
##Vote: Foolishness
Explain soon, and reading Toad.
Interesting again...
There are 5 "unconfirmed" people right now: Wave, kita, VE, Toad, Foolishness.
4 of them are voting the remaining one (Foo), specially after Foo posted so much about how the remaining scum is in that group of 4 (removing himself from it of course).
All the "confirmed" people (me, marv, austin, Prome) are voting for VE
All the "unconfirmed" people (Wave, kita, VE, Toad) are voting for Foo.
Interesting dichotomy here. Does anyone have any explanation on that one?
How come the people that are comfortable being "almost confirmed town", are going against VE and leaving Foolishness be for now, yet the people getting the most pressure and getting accused are happily going against Foolishness?
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I mean, it's interesting because it's very likely the scum is in that group of 5 "unconfirmed". Thus, the scum (or at least 1 of them if Foo is scum) are basically ignoring the "super townies" and going straight against the wall against Foo.
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One way I think about it is this: By doing so, the scum in the "unconfirmed" blend in pretty well. If ALL the "unconfirmed" vote for Foo once the day ends...how do you distinguish between them? They all voted the same guy for the same reasons basically, you can't really differentiate them that much. This is independent on whether Foo is scum or not.
If Foo is scum, then 3 out of those 4 is town, and 1 is scum. The scum is jumping on the bus on Foo. But why? This makes it very likely Foo gets lynched, yet by sheeping the "confirmed", he can easily get VE lynched...if VE is not scum. Would he be scared, because he "jumps out" of all the other unconfirmed by being the only "unconfirmed" on VE? Then if VE flips town he'd be put under scrutiny? But bussing Foo is basically losing the game right now, isn't it? Wouldn't he take the chance? Or maybe he thinks Foo is still not getting lynched today and is bussing him anyways?
Of course, a very interesting scenario is both VE and Foo being scum.
Wave, Toad, kita, VE. You guys are the ones doing this. What do you think of this phenomenon?
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So Toad, you are happy with any of VE or Foo getting lynched today then?
I'd really like your thoughts on VE
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On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.
I think Kita is my preference though.
No. Explain what made you go from "He's obvious town and my only ally in this whole game!" to "I'd lynch him too"
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On January 26 2014 06:07 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 06:03 gonzaw wrote:
So Toad, you are happy with any of VE or Foo getting lynched today then?
I'd really like your thoughts on VE I haven't looked into VE yet and like I said, I want to see how he changes tomorrow. But VE makes sense given the situation we're in assuming my read on Foo is right. I'd much rather lynch Foo before lynching into VE because of nothing but "because he'd make sense together with Foo" if Foo hasn't even flipped yet...
No. Lynch is in 2 hours, don't see how he "changes tomorrow", specially if he is getting lynched right now
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On January 26 2014 06:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 06:10 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 26 2014 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.
I think Kita is my preference though. lol so in other words you'd vote anybody if it wasn't you. I just stated who I would lynch. That's not even close to "anyone but me". It's everyone in the 'assumed threadwide lynch list.' (Which by itself makes me go mehhhh) So you don't want to vote for Foolish and your vote is on him? Survival I assume?
Surely not
On January 26 2014 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
I read some. Go figure.
Anyway I'm not even going to try and stop the lynch on me.
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On January 26 2014 06:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Just got home.
So is it 4-4 right now with Foolishness hitting 4 first?
Considering moving over to VE to make it 5v3. brb
Why?
Don't you think it's more productive to try and convince me to switch to Foo for instance?
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On January 26 2014 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Talk all the shit you want, this is the second day in a row I show up and try and contribute and get "look so scummy lol he's trying that's so fucking scummy"
Come on VE you've been pulling this "I'm the victim" shit ever since the game started
On January 21 2014 14:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let me know if any of this is unreasonable and I'll just stop - but I'm perturbed that I'm AGAIN the first SERIOUS scum candidate in a veteran game and I'm sick of this shit.
Can you please just stop it? At the very least ignore everybody and make that case on kita or whatever I dunno
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On January 26 2014 06:22 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 06:21 gonzaw wrote:On January 26 2014 06:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Just got home.
So is it 4-4 right now with Foolishness hitting 4 first?
Considering moving over to VE to make it 5v3. brb Why? Don't you think it's more productive to try and convince me to switch to Foo for instance? I'm thinking VE might be the better lynch right now. Wouldn't make sense to convince you on Foolishness, if that wasn't my preference.
Well, you made a huge case on Foo, but barely talked about VE. What would make you change your mind?
Also, do you have any thoughts on that "everybody is voting Foo" thing I mentioned before?
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