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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 17:54 GMT
#1661
@kita: You said you were going to read VE, and then WoS and Holy/Toad. Did you find anything about those? Or are you lazy (as I am) and didn't do it?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:18 GMT
#1667
Aww VE, what happened to your Foolishness+Prome scum phase?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:19 GMT
#1668
I can randomly vote as well

##Vote: VisceraEyes

Where are my cookies?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:20 GMT
#1670
On January 26 2014 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
I read some. Go figure.

Anyway I'm not even going to try and stop the lynch on me.


Okay.
You heard the man guys, he wants to get lynched today
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:23 GMT
#1674
Are you by coincidence still cooking porkchops VE?
Can you cook some for me?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:43 GMT
#1687
It's funny you already gave up, when Foo had more votes than you did.
Also funny how the guy you thought were scum, and talked 2 days about how is scum with Prome non-stop, is up to lynch, yet you decide to randomly vote another guy you think is town:
On January 25 2014 02:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 02:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 25 2014 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, I would contribute, but I've been told that my suspects are off limits so I'm kinda at a loss as to what I even CAN do to prove my innocence. Maybe a story?

VE am I going to be vindicated or very cross with you for making me look rl dumb?

You're going to look scummy for being the only person who's right. Sorry bruh.

On January 26 2014 03:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: WaveofShadow


You and your cookies. Vile temptress.


VE, you've done less stuff today than Holy did on D1.
I don't see a way you don't get lynched today. Sorry brah
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:45 GMT
#1690
On January 26 2014 03:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nah I'm good on Wave. Like, Hapa died in a game with marv, Foolishness, kitaman etc. There must be a reason. I can't imagine that reason is framing Wave, but I concede that it's possible.


Would be fine and dandy except you spend I dunno how many posts saying Wave is town.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:46 GMT
#1692
You know, I decided to start the last minute wagon on sandro because his actions were unforgivable and I wouldn't just stay iddle while he'd do that kind of shit.
Similarly, your actions so far are unforgivable as well VE. I don't want to be a hypocrite.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:49 GMT
#1696
On January 26 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 03:45 gonzaw wrote:
On January 26 2014 03:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nah I'm good on Wave. Like, Hapa died in a game with marv, Foolishness, kitaman etc. There must be a reason. I can't imagine that reason is framing Wave, but I concede that it's possible.


Would be fine and dandy except you spend I dunno how many posts saying Wave is town.

I have this thing about calling people town who think I'm town. I'm trying to not take that into account.


But are willing to take into account some WIFOM shit about Hapa getting killed, and thus Wave is scum?
Also, remember Hapa made that super case against Wave after scum's resolution period (where they had to send the kill) was over. There wasn't really any reason to think Hapa was 100% against Wave before that (Hapa was actually absent most of N1 by then).
If scum killed Hapa, I can almost guarantee you it's not because they wanted to frame Wave. At least not in an obvious manner.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:54 GMT
#1702
The main point VE, is that you "opting out of play" doesn't make absolutely any sense at all, like marv kindly pointed out before.

Yes, I kind of went hard against you back on N1. I understand your frustration and "not really wanting to play" at that point.
However, I, and other players, gave you a free ride this whole D2. Nobody (except an early vote by Prome and me) voted you. Nobody even discussed you that much.
Look at Wave, who we pressured like fuck and called him stupid and retarded. Look at how he even increased his activity, even after that. THAT is how you are supposed to react to pressure as town.
Now look at you, you had 1% pressure on you this whole D2. A D2 where we spent most of the time discussing and arguing with Wave, then discussing Toad, then discussing Foolishness. You weren't discussed at all basically.
Tell me, what possible reason is there for you to feel demotivated based on that? Hell, we even started to come around at the thought of Foo being scum, the guy you suspected but felt was "off limits" + Show Spoiler +
On January 25 2014 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, I would contribute, but I've been told that my suspects are off limits so I'm kinda at a loss as to what I even CAN do to prove my innocence. Maybe a story?
. Now he's not off-limits. Yet you still decide to ragequit?
There are absolutely no reasons for you to ragequit right now:
-I got off your back
-Nobody is even discussing you
-Your suspects are not "off-limits" anymore (except Prome)
Yet you did. What does that tell us about you?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 18:55 GMT
#1704
On January 26 2014 03:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
"if scum killed hapa" lol

Like, who would have killed hapa if not scum? LMAO


lol
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:02 GMT
#1708
Well, whatever.

Know that you aren't really making us have that much fun VE. It was Prome that said (I think) he wanted the best of the best playing their best game this game. Yeah....

If you are town, you are not even giving us anything if (when) you flip town. You just randomly voted a guy you think is town based on false WIFOM, now vote another guy you haven't talked about since like N1.
The only memorable thing I remember from you is "kita seems kind of wishy washy". Can't do shit with that if you flip town bro.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:08 GMT
#1712
Well VE, if you are town and we lose this game you are not going to like it in Postgame either.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:18 GMT
#1721
Will somebody be here at the deadline?
You know....maybe new vote shenannigans will happen (no promises though)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:20 GMT
#1724
That pesky cooking. I mean, who even needs food really?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:22 GMT
#1727
Will someone please think of the children shadows! ;_;
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:25 GMT
#1729
On January 26 2014 04:20 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want. Am I going to take it the wrong way? Be prepared for me to take it the wrong way.
I don't actually want you to post anything, but wtf does your shadow QT look like if you're going to be apathetic already on D2?

You're not just town or scum, you're town or scum and sharing your thoughts on the game with someone this game. I think that makes it markedly different than any normal game you could ragequit or be apathetic in. You're not coaching, but you're...at least opening up your thoughts to someone.

But you're content to just...give up?


Well, if he's scum, he's likely going "look at this guys I'm going to give up and the derps will let me live just watch trolololol remember this scum tactic for later padawan" in there perhaps.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:39 GMT
#1741
VE, this is simple for me:

If you are town, well then fuck I guess, what are you going to do?
But if you are scum, and we let you live....what will this tell us about valid scum strategies for future games? If you are scum and we let you live, you just successfully NOT played the game, and survived. You, and other scum in future games, will see this as a viable strategy.
Scum in next games will just go "I'm under pressure what do I do!!!? Oh wait I'll just give up, appeal to their emotions and they'll let me live, easy as pie". Do you want to see this happening in future games? Do you want to see scum intentionally NOT playing the game, just because it would seem to be a viable strategy for them to survive and push their scum agenda?
That's not how I envision mafia games.

So, I don't want to let you pass VE. It goes beyond this game.

Like I said, this is what made me make my switch to sandro last game. I also don't want to enforce the fact that scum can go AFK for 30 hours, come with a shitty case and coast through the game. I don't want mafia games to be like that, therefore actions like that should not go unpunished.
Same happens to you VE.

Actually, yes, the point that I want to make is that town should punish this kind of behaviour more and more in games. I've seen lots of games where stuff like this happens and the scum coasts through the game and wins (Risen in TLIII anyone?). But town gets second thoughts, or gets too scared to actually do something, and scum win (IMO) unfairly.

On January 26 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a matter of priorities. My first priority is NOT to stay alive. That's scum's first priority. My first priority is to find scum. And I've been trying, but I get shit on every time I try. EVERY TIME. Can you not see how this is frustrating to me?


The problem is that you aren't even attempting to find scum either. You randomly voted your highest townread because of false shitty WIFOM, then parked your vote on the dude with the highest votes. Tell me how that's "finding scum, my #1 priority"?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:42 GMT
#1743
No. My points are regarding your play this D2. I'm not talking about your play on D1/N1 or course (where you had your suspicions on Foolishness)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 19:43 GMT
#1746
EBWOP:
On January 26 2014 04:39 gonzaw wrote:
Like I said, this is what made me make my switch to sandro last cycle. I also don't want to enforce the fact that scum can go AFK for 30 hours, come with a shitty case and coast through the game. I don't want mafia games to be like that, therefore actions like that should not go unpunished.
Same happens to you VE.

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