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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 02:33 GMT
#2726
ALRIGHT WELL DISREGARD POKEMON MAFIA THEN. I STILL HAVE NOT READ THE EARLY GAME OF THAT BECAUSE YOU GUYS GENERATED SO MANY PAGES BEFORE I REPLACED.

I can look back over Toad's games, but based on his play THIS GAME, I think HF was town. I'm fine with Toad's play this game.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 02:37 GMT
#2727
I was already fully decided on Toad so I didn't care much about Foolishness's post on Toad.

But....since some of the early comments on Prome seem to have gotten lost in the aether, Foolishness has a whole bit on why HE thinks toad is town, and also Foolishness didn't flip mafia. Maybe it does something for people, maybe it doesn't, but you can trust that post more now than you could when you thought Foolishness was mafia.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 03:02 GMT
#2729
Does the genesis of my townread on Toad make...more sense?

I know me going "it reminded me of this other feeling i had this one time" is not a good basis to convince anyone of marv.

But I don't think my thoughts on Toad are ridiculous, except maybe the final bit on brainz, but I find that shorthand to refer to the whole thing.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 15:57 GMT
#2733
There's only one way to respond to that.

miaow
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 16:34 GMT
#2740
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. I really like point 4, and I'd be more than happy to have another glorious scum victory this game IF I had rolled mafia. Sorry to disappoint.

I think you'd have more luck trying to convince people though without point 3 -
Foolishness and VE weren't playing well, otherwise we wouldn't have lynched them. So trusting thier reads on me is silly to the point of scummy.
You say they weren't playing well, but VE got a lot of crap for calling you mafia, and for suggesting a prome/sandroba/foolishness scumteam. Looks like he was right on you, and apparently the whole game thought foolishness was scummy enough to lynch the very next day.

Tbh, it looks like they were right, and the rest of us played a little poorly.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 16:35 GMT
#2741
Hey marv, do you remember any games in particular where townprome looked very scummy early on?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 16:38 GMT
#2743
Okay, that's fine.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 16:44 GMT
#2749
Nono, stick around and fight. Put up yer dukes!
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 16:47 GMT
#2750
If I'm mafia, why don't I just vote you on D1? Why waste time saying prome/sand, prome/sand, prome/sand, and then end up on sandroba?

Am I just that cray?

And if you think the scumteam is marv/austin, and toad has already been saying that he thought there were two mafia in marv/prome/foolishness, why aren't you trying to lynch marv? If you really want to convince toad, why not go after the guy that you BOTH think is mafia?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 17:31 GMT
#2753
On February 01 2014 02:31 marvellosity wrote:
Gonna try answer me / the rest of austin's questions, twinkletoes?
*cough*
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 17:54 GMT
#2755
Promethelax replaced into ACME for prplhz
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 17:54 GMT
#2756
oh nm, he replaced in really early
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 17:57 GMT
#2757
nm on the nm. He replaced in partway D1, and was already considered scummy because of stuff prplhz had said.

For the non-me lazy,
On November 02 2012 17:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Promethelax is replacing prplhz.

Apologies for any inconveniences this might cause.

On November 02 2012 19:33 risk.nuke wrote:
We're still killing Muso for not having a partner. While prplhz/Promethelax was suspicious Muso is basically busted scum.

On November 02 2012 20:55 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 20:17 drazak wrote:
I'm just... I'm gonna go fine a corner to cry in, this game. 2 town fake claims on day one that are already admitted fake claims? fucking serious? Not sure what to make of all of it

I suggest to just read the thread and do some traditional behavioural analysis. I like my vote on prplhz (sorry Promethelax, your predecssor said some stuff that I cannot jibe with town).

@Kushm4sta: you're not thinking straight. Also, blame Bugs for my rolename.

On November 02 2012 21:48 Acrofales wrote:
Prplhz
What initially made my scumdar ping was this passage:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 20:33 prplhz wrote:
I don't know about this Release thing. Calling people scum on page 1 for a dumb reason is generally not something scum would feel like they had to do. There are plenty of other people around but I don't have time right now. Actually I'm going to be busy for most of this game which will suck because my activity is a clear indicator of my alignment (even if people don't use it because they're lazy *cough* thrawn2112 *cough* kushm4sta *cough* Hopeless1der *cough*).

Right now I'm reading town on Mattchew, Muso and kind of town on Release and kushm4sta. I'll read the thread harder later today.

He pre-excuses his lack of activity (although now that he was replaced we can safely assume this was not a ploy, but a simple headsup: it still got my attention at the time, though) and chums up to quite a number of players for no good reason: he indicates that thrown2112, kushm4sta and Hopeless1der should see him as town. He further chums up with Mattchew, Muso and Release by calling them town, when the game is about 12 hours old. I personally didn't have a town read yet on anybody and found this passage decidedly strange.

However, prplhz slipped badly in the claiming ordeal, which I explained earlier and Muso fleshed out in sufficient detail.

Note that this case ONLY works if Muso is in fact town. If Muso is scum, then prplhz has no reason to be so surprised. So the question is what case you think is better on its own. A compounding problem is that prplhz will not be around to explain himself and Promethelax cannot explain it, obviously.

Also, gonna bring in the meta-lynch-all-replacements rule: it is more likely to replace scum in this manner than to replace town. I don't like using moderator actions to hunt scum, but it is something that is a simple truth. Losing a townie to inactivity is not the end of the world. Losing scum in a similar manner is extremely bad for the game.
On November 02 2012 23:13 Acrofales wrote:
About 8 hours left. It seems time to consolidate.

Out of Kush and prplhz, against who the main body of the case is similar, I feel prplhz has shown more dodgy behaviour. At least kush's switch came after the majority of the thread had weighed in and said they weren't Muso's mason partner: prplhz did his 180 (thanks for that reminder in your filter, risk) with only my statistics to persuade him in the meantime.

I don't feel particularly happy pushing for a lynch on someone who has just subbed in, but the worst thing possible is a no-lynch today: we need that flip information.

PS: if the aim is to get information from a lynch, Muso will give info if he flips town (namely, a stronger case against prplhz and kush), whereas prplhz and kush are dudds if they flip town, so that is a point in favour of killing Muso. However, I feel prplhz is FAR more likely to flip scum at this point and killing scum is my goal.

Re-voting for emphasis:
##vote Promethelax


prome's got people suspicious of him AND votes on him before he even posts. Yes, he replaces in early, but apparently there was plenty of time for prplhz to do prplhz stuff. All of the above quotes are before prome ever posts.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 18:08 GMT
#2760
Okay, but he got 1 vote in Personality II, from vivax. His hydra got no votes in Hydra mini 1. His hydra replaced out i think in hydra II. Also, those were hydra games.

Prome, any recent towngames that you didn't replace into?

Cuz British is a year old, and I'm not seeing thread find him super scummy (at least enough to vote him) in recent games.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 18:11 GMT
#2761
He did have a bunch of votes, most town, on him during D1 of dessert mini.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 18:15 GMT
#2762
I would have preferred you be outright lying about prome, marv. Games in which he started scummy are old, but they're there. We'll allow it for now.

*cough*
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 18:34 GMT
#2764
On February 01 2014 03:31 marvellosity wrote:
You should know very well I'd never lie about that sort of thing as either alignment. Silly silly.
A girl can dream.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 18:36 GMT
#2767
On February 01 2014 03:35 marvellosity wrote:
Why would you ever wish incompetence upon me? That hurts.
Not incompetence, just easier-to-catch scumplay.

There have to be SOME points where lying is better than truth for scum.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 18:38 GMT
#2768
On February 01 2014 03:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Happy pre-birthday Austin!
Can your present be to win this game with me rather than on your own?
If that's a "let's work together about something" comment, then yes. If that's saying you're town and want to live through the night, I can't help you there.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 18:38 GMT
#2769
(Nor can I help you with ME living through the night)
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