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On January 28 2014 09:53 kitaman27 wrote: Would someone be willing to take 10 minutes on austin for me to see if we're seeing the same things? I feel he has been under the radar for too long now. I will admit I may have been a little too hasty in ignoring him for semi-confirmed town earlier. I will look shortly. Mind answering my Qs?
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Ehhhhhh glancing at it myself there may actually be some evolution of that read. I just sort of remember him calling me scum for dumb reasons and then shortly after that using me in a case to call Foolishness scum and that seemed super odd to me.
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On January 28 2014 10:07 marvellosity wrote: the only thing that made me at all paranoid about austin was when he said "i only bust my ass when my mafiateam is losing" sort of thing. Seems a weird sort of thing to say if you're planning on afking for quite a while though If he's scum then he is a primary reason his mafia team is losing. (Not that I really think they're losing at this point considering how much trouble we're having)
Kita thanks for outlining that. I guess the only issue I might have is the abruptness of the flip onto the idea of Foolishness scum, which is interspersed with the fail case on me---I guess it makes more sense outlined in front of me though I still don't see how he went into this entertaining the idea of me and Foolish scumteam. Could be bias speaking but it looks like he regrets giving Foolish a townread when he didn't quite deserve it and is covering his bases with that first post, not thinking whether having me/Foolish made sense?
I guess if people don't have as much a problem with Toad then, it looks like we may be defaulting to FOolish today, which I can't say I have a problem with---I guess it's more the combination of the earlier thread silence + the idea that scumteam probably knows Foolish is being lynched today....
/paranoia
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Oh dear sweet lord no. Do I have to read all that?
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Still reading. Foolishness for the love of crap, will you please stick around so that people can talk to you?
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Foolishness, are you going to tell us that the second scum is marv?
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K I'm going to be very careful with this new Foolishness business---if there's one thing he's proved to us this game, it's that he's really fucking good at stirring shit up.
Also I really am going to be mad if this is Foolishness's 'flawless analysis' and all of my early reads were stomped into the ground and I was called scum for them when they were right. If so it means I guess I may have to work on how to get reads across in a believable way.
Aaaanyway, just sitting here, waiting to talk with him..... And for other people to do so as well, because I really would expect everybody in the thread to jump all over this.
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On January 28 2014 10:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Foolishness, are you going to tell us that the second scum is marv?
yes, he is, and I want to know pretty sharpish why he's not putting me on the table given he clearly hints at that in numerous places. If it weren't for sheer effort alone this looks like scumclaiming. I want to wait to hear it from him because I have something in mind, actually. Foolishness even if your read on the final scum isn't done, I think we need to something, or at least for you to let us know there's something coming very soon.
I'm really not a fan of this 'diarrhea into thread and then disappear' strategy. I'm well aware the way things are done on TL Mafia have changed over the years and some people don't prefer the conversational style, but it's all I know, and I know it works for me.
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On January 28 2014 10:40 marvellosity wrote: why did this have to occur at 1:30am with work the next day. sadness.
K I'm going to be very careful with this new Foolishness business---if there's one thing he's proved to us this game, it's that he's really fucking good at stirring shit up. Foolishness's thread timing has been....uncanny in regards to when he decides to show up or leave.
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On January 28 2014 10:50 marvellosity wrote: So Foolish thinks Prome and marvellosity are mafia, when Prome and marvellosity staying on Fool day 1 means he's going to get lynched?
It's 5 (fool) 3 (prome) 2(sand) when I jump off Fool to sand, and Prome follows sometime after to help secure the lynch on sand (give or take hapa)
Why at 5 3 2 am I moving across exactly? Be patient and let him answer marv.
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I will say this much: I'm not going to be around for Foolishness's magical return right around lynch time (for a change) So if he doesn't answer some of my questions now, I won't have a chance to switch my vote off of him as after tonight, I'm gone 'till tomorrow night.
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Goddamn it kita GODDAMN IT THERE IS NO ROOM FOR LEVITY MAFIA IS SRS BSNS
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So I'm assuming then conversation is done for the night? Well I guess my vote stays where it is then. Foolishness you'll have to convince the others because without having a conversation with you I can't just wipe away all that has been discussed on you with the posting of your essays.
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Phoneposting Awful lot of assumptions being made on this page
Where does Fool talk about going for me OR marv explicitly?
Foolishness this is why you really needed to show uo yesterday If you're town and actually put in that effort its a real shame but you don't seem to understand that the way you have been playing this game doesn't quite fit with what town needs from you.
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You guys are assuming that marv is his secomndary and I am his (tertiary) target when he bever states that anywhere in his recent posts
I wanted to hear that stuff from him to try and get a read rather than have people put words in his mouth---now he may get all defensive about it which might convolute a read
Not that I have time to read much today really
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On January 28 2014 21:19 Promethelax wrote: Wave: it is in his fourth post under "what if promethelax is town" Really? K I reread
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Oh yeah I guess it does kinda. And marv I know you were implicitly indicated but I wanted to see if hed actually meant you or go for austin
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Well I trust you guys to make the right decision come lynch then, my vote stays. If you're both mafia, welp o.O
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On January 29 2014 04:48 austinmcc wrote:WoS StuffStarts off poking at Kita about Sandroba. Can go either way. Very much not worried about Foolishness's early vote on him (F voted WoS for his first post) Back and forth with Kita about Sandroba. Scummy points for referencing positively Foolishness's comment on Sandroba engaging the thread actively In this post, if the team is actually marv/sand/prome, WoS accidentally catches the mafia team - + Show Spoiler +On January 23 2014 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:31 Foolishness wrote:On January 23 2014 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 23 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Not the tone - the act itself. Like, if he were town I feel like rather than do a stream of consciousness thing, he would read and have actual suspicions and post those. I disagree. I could swear he's done this specifically as town before (as have I) but I'd have to check which is kind of difficult for me atm. Either way he's given me enough that even were I able to be convinced before his return (which I kinda doubted) I certainly won't be voting him today. Like I get the we 'expect more' but is it not possible that Prome simply hasn't gotten to his 'POP' case yet? I don't allow this defense for people like Foolishness/Sandroba because they haven't actively been here. That's the thing though, we don't "expect more" we expect actual thoughts and opinions. Having suspicions of someone, and succinctly explaining them, takes actually LESS effort than doing a stream of consciousness catch up thing. It's that I expected LESS. Like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. But I'm not voting for him so ultimately it doesn't matter much. Foolishness can you comment on the conversation VE and I had about Prome that ended with the above post? Sounds like you're making good arguments why he should be lynched. Look at it this way. Let's say I posted and said, "Kitaman is the best lynch right now!" what would you respond? You'd say, "wtf he's been pushing the town in the right direction and asking good questions." Now I say, "Promethelax is the best lynch right now!" (or Holyflare) what is your response? You say, "Eh, I feel like he's doing okay..." I don't see any arguments that show that Promethelax is pushing the town in the right direction or pushing a pro-town agenda. He's responded sure, but where's the conviction and the push to get something done? In relation to what gonzaw just posted, I feel like the above could be applied as well to either marv or snadroba----and actually starts to mesh with the idea that I haven't been feeling anything at all from marv all game aside from a little bit of agreement in some posts that I quoted earlier in my filter. Taking a closer look at marv. WoS, just before his Foolishness vote, has a bunch of posts on Foolishness/prome/marv/sandro. Not trusting Foolishness, who had posted a case-y thing and a vote on Prome. Asking Gonzaw about Gonzaw's vote, wondering whether Gonzaw would prefer marv or sandro. It FEELS legit. He doesn't just sheep Gonzaw's vote, there's a lot of leadup that FEELS townie to me, where WoS is looking at Prome and Foolish a lot but never really doing anything super mega conclusory with them. I like WoS's conclusion that at least one scum was on the Sandroba wagon. It was against the grain, but he's not using it to try and paint anyone in particular as scummy. He just explains WHY he thinks there's a scum or multiple scum on sandroba, says it's unlikely me or gonzaw (for reasons). I really really like his thoughts after the Sandroba lynch. Neato. I feel good about WoS's D1. I like WoS's break in his catchup posts to tell people to stop commenting on fluff in the way that they are. That reads real townie in the middle of his other junk, when he's not attacking anyone in particular, and I like it. I want to stop now. Also, I'm going to. Phoneposting cause this weirded me out Wtf waste of time is this. Why is your read on me impoortant right now? Why is it all based on D1 play when you coiuld have come to the same conclusions yesterday BUT YESTERDAY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM
Foolishness I am not the key to this game. You are.
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Also foolishness you can't say that marv acted defensive cause he is harboring guilt and austin isn't cause he is town and wasn't mentioned. Your entire posts screams 'I think marv is scum' just because you never explicity say it doesn't mean marv doesn't have a right to act like you did.
I wanted to hear who YOU think is scum. I still do.
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