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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:11 GMT
#2145
kita, the problem is that it's almost impossible to tell (especially with toad) from that whether he's a townie with a natural evolution (i agree, it feels that way) or if mafia decided they need to bus Fool at some point in the past and he's been carefully working his way up to it ever since. Second scenario requires one more assumption than the first. But in the larger picture it means a larger assumption that, like you say, something has gone horribly wrong.

I think the sum of it is, we need to kill Fool today, so let's do it. He's easily the most suspicious.

##Vote: Foolishness
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:12 GMT
#2146
On January 28 2014 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Mafia generally don't plan to be afk, they kinda just get lazy and stop posting.

valid. And pretty sure austin has said in the past he can be like that (he'll probably verify himself). But meeeeh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:13 GMT
#2151
holy ninja
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:35 GMT
#2160
On January 28 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Foolishness, are you going to tell us that the second scum is marv?

yes, he is, and I want to know pretty sharpish why he's not putting me on the table given he clearly hints at that in numerous places. If it weren't for sheer effort alone this looks like scumclaiming.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:40 GMT
#2164
why did this have to occur at 1:30am with work the next day. sadness.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:50 GMT
#2166
So Foolish thinks Prome and marvellosity are mafia, when Prome and marvellosity staying on Fool day 1 means he's going to get lynched?

It's 5 (fool) 3 (prome) 2(sand) when I jump off Fool to sand, and Prome follows sometime after to help secure the lynch on sand (give or take hapa)

Why at 5 3 2 am I moving across exactly?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:54 GMT
#2169
Patience is in limited supply

as is my ability to stay awake much longer when i must go to bed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 02:06 GMT
#2172
On January 28 2014 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote:
Patience is in limited supply

as is my ability to stay awake much longer when i must go to bed


Regardless of his read on you, what do you think about his thoughts on Prom?

They look fine. Mostly everything looks fine. The issue is, the conclusions are wrong. The voting that I showed makes no sense whatsoever. As for Prome's meta, there are two pretty important things. One is that he's had time issues this game. Now I'm sure if he's mafia blabla he may have just avoided the thread in general, but not like this, and Prome is 100% not the kind of guy that would ever lie about time issues with work. He just isn't.

The 2nd, major issue that Fool has (purposefully?) not taken into account is Prome's ego. Prome's ego is large, somewhat justifiably so. This isn't an insult, just an observation. In every game he plays, he considers himself one of the top townies. And he acts like it. Go look at PyP LoL postgame (or there's some other thread where he says it) - he's bigging himself up for being awesome there and he's annoyed that he wasn't given enough credit for it.

Now, in relation to this game - yes, his ego is large. But he's not an idiot, and he's well aware that in this field, he is, for a change, one of the smaller fish. He's definitely referenced that in the thread, probably both pre-game and post-game. This will affect his "swagger" quite considerably, in that he looks up to most of the players here, rather than down, like he normally does. So he's more unsure, he's more willing to listen (example that post that Fool quotes where Prome is trusting gonzaw's read on sand). It's a large, missing piece of this read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 02:08 GMT
#2173
right, i literally can't stay up any longer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 10:18 GMT
#2181
Like zero posts after I left O.o
On January 28 2014 15:02 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 12:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
So I'm assuming then conversation is done for the night?
Well I guess my vote stays where it is then. Foolishness you'll have to convince the others because without having a conversation with you I can't just wipe away all that has been discussed on you with the posting of your essays.

I am here, what questions do you have? I didn't see you really ask me anything.

Are you serious? Literally just read what people wrote since your essays, not sure how you could miss questions...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 10:21 GMT
#2182
On January 28 2014 10:29 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 10:14 Foolishness wrote:
Oh, I'm also pretty certain I have the last mafia in the bag as well.


Well since you don't have me in the bag I would suggest you re think this one as well. But you know, don't take my word on it I'm scum.

You were going to filter Foolish when you got home...?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 11:10 GMT
#2184
Only mafia fall asleep like assholes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 11:19 GMT
#2186
Yes, he's a massive user of meta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 11:49 GMT
#2188
Second and third thing go together: if Prome/Wave are (to a degree? it's not 100% obvious) interchangeable, then am I not the constant? Why is he not pushing for my lynch?

Probably because he knows he cannot go 1v1 with me and needs to secure a mislynch on a weaker/easier target (you've been away a butt-ton). We're in a 2 mafia situation, not a 1 mafia, which was running through my head last night - probably Fool just wants to secure one mislynch for whoever his buddy is, rather than going down immediately. In a 1 mafia situation his move would suicidal

The stuff on kita was more compelling than the stuff on Holy/toad. e.g. he picked a bunch of quotes from a scumgame where Holy trolled town because he was bored (Back to the basics) rather than scumgames where he tryharded (LXIII or Hogwarts)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:05 GMT
#2190
Still Toad, mostly by PoE apart from everything else. Will worry about it more after we lynch scum today.

Fun fact: Foolish accuses you of leaving me out of your big reads post like a scummy scummer, and he fails to mention austin once in any of his big posts there. Huh!

D1: that fits if afk-holy is mafia, doesn't it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:11 GMT
#2192
Slightly concerned, in a way-I-can-leave-until-tomorrow type way.

And i have zero idea who trusts who to be a lylo player, i don't think that really pays to think about.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:12 GMT
#2193
There's probably been a touch too much "theory" in this game, which I guess isn't that surprising given the players playing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:14 GMT
#2195
I don't really understand your question Wave
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:16 GMT
#2197
or rather who/what you're referring to exactly I guess
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:17 GMT
#2198
On January 28 2014 21:16 Promethelax wrote:
So you don't see toad as having his same "+1,I'm part of the team. Ooooh pick me pick me" attitude that comes in his town games when he really wants to be playing four square with the cool kids but isn't quite?

no, not really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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