• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:58
CEST 01:58
KST 08:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event5Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 194Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4
StarCraft 2
General
TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups StarCon Philadelphia BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 645 users

[I] [S] Shadow Mini Mafia - Page 14

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 24 Next All
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:11 GMT
#2145
kita, the problem is that it's almost impossible to tell (especially with toad) from that whether he's a townie with a natural evolution (i agree, it feels that way) or if mafia decided they need to bus Fool at some point in the past and he's been carefully working his way up to it ever since. Second scenario requires one more assumption than the first. But in the larger picture it means a larger assumption that, like you say, something has gone horribly wrong.

I think the sum of it is, we need to kill Fool today, so let's do it. He's easily the most suspicious.

##Vote: Foolishness
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:12 GMT
#2146
On January 28 2014 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Mafia generally don't plan to be afk, they kinda just get lazy and stop posting.

valid. And pretty sure austin has said in the past he can be like that (he'll probably verify himself). But meeeeh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:13 GMT
#2151
holy ninja
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:35 GMT
#2160
On January 28 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Foolishness, are you going to tell us that the second scum is marv?

yes, he is, and I want to know pretty sharpish why he's not putting me on the table given he clearly hints at that in numerous places. If it weren't for sheer effort alone this looks like scumclaiming.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:40 GMT
#2164
why did this have to occur at 1:30am with work the next day. sadness.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:50 GMT
#2166
So Foolish thinks Prome and marvellosity are mafia, when Prome and marvellosity staying on Fool day 1 means he's going to get lynched?

It's 5 (fool) 3 (prome) 2(sand) when I jump off Fool to sand, and Prome follows sometime after to help secure the lynch on sand (give or take hapa)

Why at 5 3 2 am I moving across exactly?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 01:54 GMT
#2169
Patience is in limited supply

as is my ability to stay awake much longer when i must go to bed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 02:06 GMT
#2172
On January 28 2014 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote:
Patience is in limited supply

as is my ability to stay awake much longer when i must go to bed


Regardless of his read on you, what do you think about his thoughts on Prom?

They look fine. Mostly everything looks fine. The issue is, the conclusions are wrong. The voting that I showed makes no sense whatsoever. As for Prome's meta, there are two pretty important things. One is that he's had time issues this game. Now I'm sure if he's mafia blabla he may have just avoided the thread in general, but not like this, and Prome is 100% not the kind of guy that would ever lie about time issues with work. He just isn't.

The 2nd, major issue that Fool has (purposefully?) not taken into account is Prome's ego. Prome's ego is large, somewhat justifiably so. This isn't an insult, just an observation. In every game he plays, he considers himself one of the top townies. And he acts like it. Go look at PyP LoL postgame (or there's some other thread where he says it) - he's bigging himself up for being awesome there and he's annoyed that he wasn't given enough credit for it.

Now, in relation to this game - yes, his ego is large. But he's not an idiot, and he's well aware that in this field, he is, for a change, one of the smaller fish. He's definitely referenced that in the thread, probably both pre-game and post-game. This will affect his "swagger" quite considerably, in that he looks up to most of the players here, rather than down, like he normally does. So he's more unsure, he's more willing to listen (example that post that Fool quotes where Prome is trusting gonzaw's read on sand). It's a large, missing piece of this read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 02:08 GMT
#2173
right, i literally can't stay up any longer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 10:18 GMT
#2181
Like zero posts after I left O.o
On January 28 2014 15:02 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 12:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
So I'm assuming then conversation is done for the night?
Well I guess my vote stays where it is then. Foolishness you'll have to convince the others because without having a conversation with you I can't just wipe away all that has been discussed on you with the posting of your essays.

I am here, what questions do you have? I didn't see you really ask me anything.

Are you serious? Literally just read what people wrote since your essays, not sure how you could miss questions...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 10:21 GMT
#2182
On January 28 2014 10:29 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 10:14 Foolishness wrote:
Oh, I'm also pretty certain I have the last mafia in the bag as well.


Well since you don't have me in the bag I would suggest you re think this one as well. But you know, don't take my word on it I'm scum.

You were going to filter Foolish when you got home...?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 11:10 GMT
#2184
Only mafia fall asleep like assholes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 11:19 GMT
#2186
Yes, he's a massive user of meta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 11:49 GMT
#2188
Second and third thing go together: if Prome/Wave are (to a degree? it's not 100% obvious) interchangeable, then am I not the constant? Why is he not pushing for my lynch?

Probably because he knows he cannot go 1v1 with me and needs to secure a mislynch on a weaker/easier target (you've been away a butt-ton). We're in a 2 mafia situation, not a 1 mafia, which was running through my head last night - probably Fool just wants to secure one mislynch for whoever his buddy is, rather than going down immediately. In a 1 mafia situation his move would suicidal

The stuff on kita was more compelling than the stuff on Holy/toad. e.g. he picked a bunch of quotes from a scumgame where Holy trolled town because he was bored (Back to the basics) rather than scumgames where he tryharded (LXIII or Hogwarts)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:05 GMT
#2190
Still Toad, mostly by PoE apart from everything else. Will worry about it more after we lynch scum today.

Fun fact: Foolish accuses you of leaving me out of your big reads post like a scummy scummer, and he fails to mention austin once in any of his big posts there. Huh!

D1: that fits if afk-holy is mafia, doesn't it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:11 GMT
#2192
Slightly concerned, in a way-I-can-leave-until-tomorrow type way.

And i have zero idea who trusts who to be a lylo player, i don't think that really pays to think about.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:12 GMT
#2193
There's probably been a touch too much "theory" in this game, which I guess isn't that surprising given the players playing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:14 GMT
#2195
I don't really understand your question Wave
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:16 GMT
#2197
or rather who/what you're referring to exactly I guess
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 28 2014 12:17 GMT
#2198
On January 28 2014 21:16 Promethelax wrote:
So you don't see toad as having his same "+1,I'm part of the team. Ooooh pick me pick me" attitude that comes in his town games when he really wants to be playing four square with the cool kids but isn't quite?

no, not really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2966
Artosis 1587
EffOrt 467
Hyuk 135
ggaemo 96
MaD[AoV]47
NaDa 45
Terrorterran 12
Stormgate
JuggernautJason179
Dota 2
monkeys_forever449
NeuroSwarm97
League of Legends
Grubby3521
JimRising 536
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King14
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor248
Other Games
tarik_tv17210
summit1g12626
gofns10076
fl0m1310
ViBE21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1591
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 57
• davetesta38
• musti20045 36
• Adnapsc2 10
• Berry_CruncH2
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22153
League of Legends
• Doublelift5369
Other Games
• imaqtpie1227
• Scarra730
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 2m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15h 2m
BSL
19h 2m
Bonyth vs Hawk
Wardi Open
1d 11h
RotterdaM Event
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Online Event
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
StarCon 2025 Philadelphia LAN
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.