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- 55 pages into the game
- PMs shared with half the thread
- Indepth live convos with Rayn + Marv
I have a strong town read on about 5 players and a weak town read on about 5 players. Names are not necessary.
I have about 5 players in the null territory. The remaining have either not posted based on IRL committments; or I think are scummy to varying degree.
Below are my top 2 scum reads
(1) Derrida
(2)Bumatlarge
Reasoning
Derrida
- His first post mimics his first post as scum <-- from putting himself down, to, list posting
- He specifies how important it is to make these connections based on coaching; yet spoilers this effort <<-- again degrading the work he is presenting/
- His connection theory is purely a count of posts and detail of what others have called scum <<- there is zero effort put into interpreting this data/
- When VE asks for a town read to be added. Derrida non-chalantly asks for details about a scum read <<- Derrida gives zero fucks about this game
- Lastly, Derrida excuses himself of scum hunting in his first post stating he doesnt know people so can't do meta-reading <<- Clearly gives zero fucks about this game and is finding excuses to not contribute.
Bumatlarge
- Has posted twice in the thead and has produced zero substance
- HOWEVER, in PM land I received the following:
Original Message From bumatlarge:
You rang? Reading the thread. Original Message From Mocsta:
Coolies
Do u think as jax I should stay at top?
Any thoughts in the mayor?
Original Message From bumatlarge:
Probs wave, pretty certain hes town by the way he entered the race. I don't think BH as mayor, but a mason would be a provable town, and we already have two of them. It would be pretty awful of both hopeful and BH to claim that as scum when they aren't in a strong position to win the race. Original Message From Mocsta:
Who do u think wave should lynch.
I could swing his way Original Message From bumatlarge:
Sry drunk PMs
I find this type of behaviour to be synonymous with mafia.
(1) Clearly Bum is up to date with the thread (he is aware of the masons afterall), and is choosing to be of no-value in thread (which perhaps its is fine, maybe he likes to be influential on the PM side)
(2) However, this clearly isn't the case. In PM Land once asked to put his cock on the block; Bum plays the "sry i shouldnt have been talking to you because I was drunk" card.
I want either of these 2 people lynched tomorrow.
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FYI:
Aquanim asked me for my position on JAT.
"i am stil null on JAT.
Its correct he has not elucidated on a scum read <-- but that is normal for him.
I dont like his position on focusing on a mayor; because, I dont think his filter aligns with that. He is commenting on some random stuff here and there and does not seem to be probing the mayors (in thread at least). This is where it becomes difficult.
I think he is probably town if cotnacting potential mayor candidates in PM."
I am posting this, because i would like to confirm if he has contacted potential mayor cnadidates.
I am only aware of discourse shared with Thrawn.
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On January 12 2014 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am lynching Derrida.
K
I SHOOT BUM
GG SCUM
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On January 12 2014 19:55 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 19:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand why this is this hard. There are a fuckton of people who have been present but done "no scumhunting".
Why is JAT scum over suchdoge, marvellosity, WoS, Mocsta, Koshi, etc.. Why you need to single out JAT and not other people?
Having a scumread on him because he hasn't done shit is okay, but why him and not those others? Talked with marv and mocsta in PMs and I'm confident they're thinking about the game, hoping someone else who actually wants to deal with suchdoge in PMs will read him, have a slight townread on WoS (and he's pushing suchdoge, anyway, so your characterisation is inaccurate here), and I don't like Koshi's play so far either but I'll get to him later.If I tried to push eight lurkers at once I wouldn't get anywhere. By pushing JAT alone I've drawn reactions from him and others and moved the thread forward. (Before you ask, I'm not telling you everything I've learned from pushing JAT. Deal with it.) You still haven't explained why you think VE's town.
I'm happy to discuss this publicly to aid my scumhunting cred points.
The line with Koshi is news to me. Can you walk me through this.
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On January 12 2014 20:01 Derrida wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 19:06 Mocsta wrote:Below are my top 2 scum reads (1) Derrida(2) Bumatlarge
ReasoningDerrida - His first post mimics his first post as scum <-- from putting himself down, to, list posting
- He specifies how important it is to make these connections based on coaching; yet spoilers this effort <<-- again degrading the work he is presenting/
- His connection theory is purely a count of posts and detail of what others have called scum <<- there is zero effort put into interpreting this data/
- When VE asks for a town read to be added. Derrida non-chalantly asks for details about a scum read <<- Derrida gives zero fucks about this game
- Lastly, Derrida excuses himself of scum hunting in his first post stating he doesnt know people so can't do meta-reading <<- Clearly gives zero fucks about this game and is finding excuses to not contribute.
Good read for most of the part. I am not scum but I am not able to give enough attention to the game due to some family issues, I am forced to be inactive (read, 2-3 not very detailed posts at most) for at least the next 24 hours. I wouldn't be too heartbroken if I get lynched, but don't really agree with your points that makes me seem more scummy than the other inactive people.
Derrida,
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to reply to this case under -what I can only assume to be- the strain of family matters.
Secondly, my case was never about activity -- which your rebuttle appears to address. My case was about your lack of case for this game (which you acknowledge via "Good read for the most part") -- I hope you realise I am calling you scum with this good read.
Thirdly, I am keen to hear more about the "points that make me seem more scummy than other inactive people" that you disagree.
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On January 12 2014 20:10 Aquanim wrote:
I'm done with you Rayn. If somebody else thinks it's important to ask his questions, then say so and I'll answer them.
I've got one on Koshi above pls.
Regarding VE, hes not in my town list.
This convo should prob be in PMs. No need for one liners cluttering pages I thinks.
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On January 12 2014 20:15 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 20:06 Mocsta wrote:On January 12 2014 19:55 Aquanim wrote:On January 12 2014 19:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand why this is this hard. There are a fuckton of people who have been present but done "no scumhunting".
Why is JAT scum over suchdoge, marvellosity, WoS, Mocsta, Koshi, etc.. Why you need to single out JAT and not other people?
Having a scumread on him because he hasn't done shit is okay, but why him and not those others? Talked with marv and mocsta in PMs and I'm confident they're thinking about the game, hoping someone else who actually wants to deal with suchdoge in PMs will read him, have a slight townread on WoS (and he's pushing suchdoge, anyway, so your characterisation is inaccurate here), and I don't like Koshi's play so far either but I'll get to him later.If I tried to push eight lurkers at once I wouldn't get anywhere. By pushing JAT alone I've drawn reactions from him and others and moved the thread forward. (Before you ask, I'm not telling you everything I've learned from pushing JAT. Deal with it.) You still haven't explained why you think VE's town. I'm happy to discuss this publicly to aid my scumhunting cred points. The line with Koshi is news to me. Can you walk me through this. Same as JAT really, he's posted very little useful in the thread ( this is his only post with any real content at all). Especially weird since my impression of Koshi is that he typically has a lot of thread presence. I had this convo with a few people already.
Koshi is in my good bucket list (i wont extrapolate whether strong or weak).
His posting about the godfather theory in particular is an unusual position for mafia to take, especially given the in-game context.
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Aquanim
What do you make of Derrida response to my case. Specifically him trying to make it synonymous with a lurker lynch.
Do you think a townie would respond in this fashion?
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Suchdoge just scum claimed as far as I'm concerned.
One trivial point. He did log onto irc yesterday. I sent hello and then he left.
The trivial point being ragn +marv were online at the same time.
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On January 12 2014 23:19 Captain Obvious wrote:
I have news for thee, faithful citizens! The one named Koshi engaged me in personal messaging last day, but after some silly banter, has disappeared when prompted to give some opinions about the game! This is very unsettling.
I think u r getting confused with bumatlarge
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On January 12 2014 23:21 suchdoge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 23:14 Mocsta wrote:
Suchdoge just scum claimed as far as I'm concerned.
One trivial point. He did log onto irc yesterday. I sent hello and then he left.
The trivial point being ragn +marv were online at the same time. I already explained this. I'm on my phone, webchat times me out very fast. If I tab off (which ofc I'm going to do when I put the phone back in my pocket or whatever) then I get booted from irc. If you want to talk to me just add me on Skype. suchdogemlg420 At least I can treat that like SMS.
So you want to talk about the scum claim on Skype instead of here?
Can't tell cos you avoided it all together
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Doge.
Why are you sucking Marv's dick so hard by joining his wagon on xat.
He wants to lynch you.
Are you planning to address the issue he outlined.
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So doge.. Am I town or scum then.
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On January 12 2014 23:29 Mocsta wrote:
So doge.. Am I town or scum then.
Woof woof
Where the doge go?
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U fuckn idiots.
Lynching Xat
Jesus Christ, I thought you want to win the game.
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Im pretty sure I have to PM it, so all is good.
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On January 11 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Make me mayor and I'll lynch kush d1.
/thread I don't really think you're a good candidate. Last time around you were confirmed town and just went all-in on a lurker. You might do the same thing here, as town or scum, and it would be a one-way ticket for a loss.
This kinda ties in with BH mason claim ringing true.
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On January 11 2014 12:01 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 11:44 Aquanim wrote:Hi. I have no desire to be mayor. There, that's out of the way. On January 11 2014 11:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Until someone provides a real reason to be elected they shouldn't be considered. What do you consider a real reason to be elected? Why do you have no desire to become a Mayor?
This is an odd post for Xat to make, considering his approach to BH regarding mayor candidacy.
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