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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:46 Captain Obvious wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 10:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he doesn't have real reads because he's making exclusively private reads to people and they're all different people.
course of action:
1. ask for policy lynch on a player whose alignment you have no opinion on
2. say that no matter who is mayor you will push for this lynch
3. vote for a mayor who says they will not lynch kush and suspects BH himself of being scum
4. provide scumread on xatalos when asked by me on the second half of the day, doesn't push it
5. privately provides scumread to xatalos on alakaslam, doesn't push it in thread
6. privately provides split moderate scumreads on rayn/marvellosity to me in private, says putting madhatter bombs on them is a good idea, doesn't push either player in thread or in his PMs with other people, when asked about it only talks about how he only thinks one can be scum
7. votes for me again after i ask for him to be lynched
he's playing intentionally and brazenly anti-town. I don't care how "bad" blazinghand is. What better to do as scum at this point than to collapse completely and shit in the thread? He clearly stated it was a policy lynch because he did not believe he would be able to discern his alignment. If he was able to form an opinion on him he wouldn't have asked for a policy lynch!
yeah I mean like I said, DrH clearly doesn't understand (or, more likely, is pretending not to understand) my thought process or the definition of a policy lynch. I suspect he's actually just displeased with my playstyle and has decided to make an example of me, showing he's not afraid to go after veterans who don't play to his standards. If it causes town to fall into line for the rest of the game, that's a reasonable decision and I support that.
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yeah, what a self-centered and stupid way of looking at the game. I can't read VE hardly ever, there are people who can, why would I want him lynched Day 1 over something like that? Why would he push other mayors to stick to his policy lynch over his own preferences versus pushing his ACTUAL scumreads? Is that good play to you
Wait okay hold on a sec
i'm gonna be totally clear here, since this wasn't clear before, the kush policy lynch was 100% JUST A CONVERSATION STARTER. now normally I wouldn't cop to it but the purpose of that lynch and its time has passed, we're at the point where we clearly have lots to talk about. generally in games, especially during D1, people are always griping about not having things to talk about. I got the ball rolling with the kush plynch and tried to get people to spout opinions on the Drh election. Surely this is a good thing, yes?
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Blazinghand
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OK OK WAIT. ONE MORE THING. I am Hopeless1's mason partner. SURELY it's not worth it to lynch me, a confirmed town player?!
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LOOK I KNOW I'M PLAYING LIKE SHIT, but luckily as always i rolled blue so don't lynch me. i'll get my shit together. I want to do wellt his game! this is a sweet game.
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Blazinghand
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coag. we should lynch coag. SURELY we should lynch him today. I say this because he obviously is going to put in coag levels of effort (ie accidentally hammering himself as town in instant majority lynch MYLO) so we should just get rid of him
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:53 marvellosity wrote:
can't believe you calling me scum for being attentive enough to notice that
so lame
why were you even fishing for that though? like why even fish? i can't think of a reason better than "I'm scum and I want to know who I can shoot for free"
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote:For reference, this was it: Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Doctorhelvetica
quick thoughts
1) kush campaign was semi legit but mostly just for the talking. realistically speaking people love derping around and complaining about how nobody has anything to talk about. kush is an okay policy lynch but he's no oatsmaster. (heh)
2) I honestly belive DrH is our best mayor here. the fact that he thought about how to use the hammering power optimally and laid out a plan and defended it should be more than enough of a reason. even if he's scum (plausible, as DrH is pretty sharp; he could have done this to try to win it as scum) he's still written himself into a corner in terms of how he uses the hammering vote. this is subject to change but short of someone claiming mason I don't think it will
3) i omitted certain people from my mass pm, mostly people I was already talking to via pm, but also one or two people I didn't want to talk to. I did the mass pm because I wanted to see how people would react differently to it and gather data. one of the things i was checking for was how quickly people would figure out it was a mass pm (since scum would know instantly as they would be comparing pms in the scum qt). I was not anticipating people discussing the pm in the thread so quickly, so this derailed my plan. I'll figure out something else for finding scum.
4) if you pmed me and I haven't gotten back to you, I'm sorry, pm me again so it shows as unread. thanks!
yes, that was my crumb, i posted it right before hopeless claimed mason so the two of us would be able to do yada yada yada. but it turns out the whole mason mayor powers don't work together
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:55 marvellosity wrote:
because i like to know that i'm right
do you not know my fucking ego?
Ok but you gotta get that from my perspective, I think marv's ego is so big he'd already know that he's right without pming me. That's why I was supicious, see? it seems like you put your ego aside and decided to pm me JUST TO BE SURE, because you were planning to shoot tonight and you really needed to be sure.
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:57 VIVAX420 wrote:ahhhh help! i got banned for posting this in the tlmafia irc thread Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 23:02 kushm4sta wrote:
worst op ever.
User was temp banned for this post.
you got replaced
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:57 marvellosity wrote:
but if i was so sure i was right why go blatantly asking if you were blue instead of going with my analysis?
the logic is so screwy...
anyway it doesn't matter now
right, so clearly you put something ahead of your ego, see? you HAD to be sure, because someting REALLY important was on the line, your nk. I couldn't you imagine setting your ego aside for anything less.
but yeah doesn't matter that
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Blazinghand
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Would it be okay for hopeless1 not to have to confirm me? that might be easier in terms of avoiding scum nk
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Well good to know my townread of BH was right as well---was about to post that this seems alarmingly similar to Les Mafia and was trying to go about stepping in to defend him.  marv I'm not sure I like that excuse. Is it ever a good idea to fish like that if it forces a reveal? I feel like your ego aside, you value proper play and if your fishing truly caused this, I don't think it was proper play at all.
this is part of why i'm suspicious of marv. i just don't see town marv putting his ego aside. town marv would just believe himself
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 10:59 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 10:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Would it be okay for hopeless1 not to have to confirm me? that might be easier in terms of avoiding scum nk Can you explain to me what difference it makes at this point?
if I explained in a way that woudl be satisfactory to you, it would negate the purpose of the secrecy
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 11:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 11:00 Blazinghand wrote:On January 12 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Well good to know my townread of BH was right as well---was about to post that this seems alarmingly similar to Les Mafia and was trying to go about stepping in to defend him. marv I'm not sure I like that excuse. Is it ever a good idea to fish like that if it forces a reveal? I feel like your ego aside, you value proper play and if your fishing truly caused this, I don't think it was proper play at all. this is part of why i'm suspicious of marv. i just don't see town marv putting his ego aside. town marv would just believe himself Pretty much.... lol BH just once you gotta try to play normally. I mean I love the crazy shenannies your play causes but I can't remember it turning out in your favour very often.
WHC Day 1!
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
if I was mafia I'd just post the crumb in the fucking QT and go "how about this guys?"
not "hey BH, I'm scum and I found you, just letting you know"
how is anyone this stupid?
yeah I don't knwo what your thought process was, no need to put yourself down though
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 11:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 11:01 marvellosity wrote:On January 12 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Well good to know my townread of BH was right as well---was about to post that this seems alarmingly similar to Les Mafia and was trying to go about stepping in to defend him. marv I'm not sure I like that excuse. Is it ever a good idea to fish like that if it forces a reveal? I feel like your ego aside, you value proper play and if your fishing truly caused this, I don't think it was proper play at all. how did my fishing cause BH's godawful play? how does that even make sense? Well...indirectly I suppose, but given that this is a PM game it seems logical to assume that nothing you post in PMs is TRULY private, so I feel like you must have known it was likely for BH to out your fishing attempts to someone else.
in fact it should be a huge towntell that i outed the fishing attempts to drh
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Blazinghand
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On January 12 2014 11:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
new rule: don't engage with BH untill hopeless confirms him. then continue not engaging wth BH.
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