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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 22:53 GMT
#1455
Does anyone think Xata is a bad lynch?

The more I think about it the more I like VE as a lynch.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:17 GMT
#1464
On January 13 2014 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
Can anyone find a single suspicion in VE's filter other than a vague mention of Captain Obvious?

Does that even make VE in particular scummy?


1. He's not active in PMs
2. He wasted his vote
3. He's not in here talking about reads
4. He doesn't seem to have reads
5. He's not complaining about there being so many lurkers/useless people
6. His tone is very nonconfrontational
7. He hasn't grown the balls to attack anyone yet

All of these point to scum VE
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:29 GMT
#1476
On January 13 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 08:17 suchdoge wrote:
On January 13 2014 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
Can anyone find a single suspicion in VE's filter other than a vague mention of Captain Obvious?

Does that even make VE in particular scummy?


1. He's not active in PMs
2. He wasted his vote
3. He's not in here talking about reads
4. He doesn't seem to have reads
5. He's not complaining about there being so many lurkers/useless people
6. His tone is very nonconfrontational
7. He hasn't grown the balls to attack anyone yet

All of these point to scum VE

Hmm.

He may be in pm land but this I grant



Post your logs with VE then please, ASAP
Wow
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:33 GMT
#1480
On January 13 2014 08:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 08:29 suchdoge wrote:
On January 13 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 13 2014 08:17 suchdoge wrote:
On January 13 2014 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
Can anyone find a single suspicion in VE's filter other than a vague mention of Captain Obvious?

Does that even make VE in particular scummy?


1. He's not active in PMs
2. He wasted his vote
3. He's not in here talking about reads
4. He doesn't seem to have reads
5. He's not complaining about there being so many lurkers/useless people
6. His tone is very nonconfrontational
7. He hasn't grown the balls to attack anyone yet

All of these point to scum VE

Hmm.

He may be in pm land but this I grant



Post your logs with VE then please, ASAP

Want everything?


Yessir, would be very helpful.

As of now PMs with VE are like finding an albino black sheep. They probably exist but even if you find them you still gotta explain why they look so weird
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:36 GMT
#1482
Wait wtf I don't understand.

Was that everything?
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#1489
yeah if that's everything then VE looks worse.

He's not done anything at all despite claiming "I have three tabs open" and bunch of other stuff.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#1491
He never gives specific reads. Not once.
Wow
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:44 GMT
#1493
I'm more confident with VE over xata tbh
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:49 GMT
#1499
vague and read less is not town VE. He's not afraid to be wrong. And he at least gives reasons for his thoughts.

And he'd be active and effective with his time-pushing a proper mayor candidate and PMing the better players in the game (and actually discussing reads, even asking for them. Not doing that here)

He also would never bs like this as town IMO.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:50 GMT
#1502
like no offense to the players he's PMed but you'd expect town VE to talk to marv to determine his alignment. Or Mig. I think he's more than smart enough to figure out that the mayor position is best served by givin it to a strong townie. Only as scum would he make excuses to call marv scum and then waste his mayor vote for most of the day
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 12 2014 23:56 GMT
#1508
On January 13 2014 08:55 marvellosity wrote:
thing with VE is it's all so fucking blatant


it's a PM game

Idk not one thing he has done makes sense as town ve
Wow
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 00:07 GMT
#1522
Get flipped son
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 00:11 GMT
#1529
yamato
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 00:25 GMT
#1547
On January 13 2014 09:17 LSB Banking wrote:

I can actually explain every single one but you probably don't want me to dump my 7 pages word document in here and like I said I'm still focussed on reading and catching up.


Nope, you mentioned that 7 page document, let's see it. Right now, post it or die.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 00:27 GMT
#1549
This guy sounds German.

Toad or supersoft?
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 00:48 GMT
#1558
On January 13 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am fucking furious right now.
Marv I can't fucking believe how hard you are misrepresenting me right now.
I flat out told you that I have a hard time trusting you and am suspicious of you and you say I'm not?
And all of a sudden the whole fucking thread nearly gets together to lynch me at the last second while I'm fucking afk?

Aside from the fucking lot of you all saying 'oh well his filter looks scummy' WHICH ONE OF YOU ACTUALLY WROTE A FUCKING CASE? WHO HAS SOME FUCKING SCUM PROOF? WHO HAS SOME ANALYSIS? Nobody, that's who.

Some fucking horseshit going on right here. Marv congratulations on being right about Xatalos, maybe before some moron shoots VE you should remember what I said to you about him. People fucking lumping me into the same group as Derrida wtf is that.

I'll be back later tonight once I've calmed down and had a chance to relax. I just typed out a long paragraph about where I was but fuck that, you people don't deserve it.


For someone who did nothing pre-lynch you're pretty mad and not remorseful.

You also seem to exaggerate the level of which this game has been about you. You were nowhere close to "almost" getting lynched. That's a lie if I've ever seen one, and at the least a gross misrepresentation.

Also you never bothered to actually discuss with marv. VE needs to die.

You need to post your logs with VE or you will probably die with him. And you need to do it now. Right now.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 01:55 GMT
#1594
On January 13 2014 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
FWIW though, my alignment SHOULD be clear to anyone paying attention.


duh of course you're scum. I think we all figured that by now.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 02:14 GMT
#1599
nah he'd be dumb to not list any of his teammates.

You can't read into people when they don't reply. That's the easiest type of log to fake, because there's nothing to fake aside from a single outgoing PM.

That post says nothing aside from Aqua and thrawn likely being town.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 08:51 GMT
#1638
I would bet a lot of money that neither Mig nor thrawn are scum, Yamato.

I err on the side of bum not being scum too.

VE is almost unequivocally scum, and WoS is probably scum with him. Of the remaining players it's likely that a newer player is also scum. Chinstrap fits. (I personally want to give the LSB banking guy a bit to come forth with more reads that aren't from his pre-replacement notes).

The only other players that are worth a look are BC, gumshoe, and potentially JAT mocsta Coag.

The last three I put at unlikely but without having really talked with them or having heard of them through PMs I'm not anywhere near as confident on them being town as some others.
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suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 09:06 GMT
#1640
I assume it's possible scum could have faked logs. However if one of them is town it's probably WoS-I'm very sure VE is mafia.

The logs between aqua and Xatalos also sort of fall in the same category. Aqua could possibly be scum still if Xata faked those logs but I find it less likely.

I'll have to reread the WoS logs.
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