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On January 11 2014 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate more please. I can't know how you reached to the conclusion because i don't see your thought process in thread. Nor does anyone else. Thats how we all feel about your play, each and every game.
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On January 11 2014 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 19:21 Mocsta wrote:On January 11 2014 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate more please. I can't know how you reached to the conclusion because i don't see your thought process in thread. Nor does anyone else. Thats how we all feel about your play, each and every game. Please elaborate with proper quotes to back up your statement. No.
Its what I feel and I have nothing I need to prove to you.
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But if you persist Rayn
Original Message From thrawn2112: you require that I obtain consent? intersting.
On another note, Rayn. i don't get him. Hes playing worse than BttB. What do you think?
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On January 11 2014 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well then you are not reading the threads in games Mocsta. Who said I was reading?
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On January 11 2014 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well thrawn is bullshitting you or is mafia. Which one is it thrawn? I can't lie
That wouldnt be townie of me.
I made up the last sentence with Rayn in it.
I just wanted to demonstrate the ease of fabricated PMs.
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On January 11 2014 19:29 kushm4sta wrote: @mocsta how the fuck can I read you when all you've done is trolled? the way I read you is by the quality of your logic.
Now ppl like you know how ppl like "us" feel all the time.
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On January 11 2014 19:33 thrawn2112 wrote: hey mocsta. do you want to post all of it in context? beat ya to it.
Permission DENIED !
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On January 11 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Mocsta, i asked you to back up your statement, not what other people think. Why are you throwing the ball to thrawn? Back you your fucking statement and show me some games where my thought process has not been clear. With proper quotes. ##Shoot: Rayn
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You can lynch me if he comes back town.
But im certain hes scum.
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On January 11 2014 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Stop the fucking trolling already and play the game. All you do is fucking distract everyone. Modkill yourself if you are not playing the game as town. I'm fucking done with your stupid shit Mocsta. Nice fake anger Rayn.
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On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote: mocsta whys rayn scum Its nothing i can explain in words
just the inflections I hear in his voice.
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On January 11 2014 19:42 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 19:40 Mocsta wrote:On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote: mocsta whys rayn scum Its nothing i can explain in words just the inflections I hear in his voice. quote the words that sound scummy to you The whole filter in one sentence is impossibly scummy to say in one breath.
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BTW rayn. vig shots happen @ night only.
So you can talk at ease.
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On January 11 2014 20:00 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Well DrH i think you are probably town, the question is do i feel like you are going to lynch mafia on D1? That remains to be seen yet. So we can stop arguing about the way this game should be played, but i can tell you there is no reason people should not discuss reads in thread instead of PM's. + Show Spoiler +Let's say you post very little and are really active in PM-land. When the lynch comes, the mayor who's gonna get elected has you as scumread. They say "i'll be lynching X because he is not playing the game and he is useless". Then people go "nono, he's really townie in PM's - look, he has these good reads on Z, A, B, K, S."
You then need to re-judge your stance on them and find anohter lynch. Why? Was there some ultimate big plan reasoning to NOT be in thread discussing thse reads? Not with one person, but with anyone.
How is that townie? I just can't fucking see it and i hate when people do it because it's scummy or really stupid. PM's should be used when there is a reason to use them. Discussing scumreads on D1 is not the reason. A question, what do you think of Xatalos? actually he has a lot of really townie posts. this is one of them. I don't think scum would ever take that position towards DrH. you are town but I dont think you are going to lynch mafia. I think that's a very townie type thought to have. I also agree with him. LOl... /trolling
<Serious Mode> Thats an easy statement to apply to any player. I think you are town but I dont respect your reads.
This is far from a good post to identify someone as clear town. Ultimately, he is discussing his personal beliefs on how to play the game. Something very easy to not lie about as town OR scum.
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On January 11 2014 20:06 suchdoge wrote:At this point in the game it is too early to properly consider whom to elect, particularly as the game started at a late hour for EU players (like marv). Thus I do not think players should finalise their votes or anything like that. + Show Spoiler [1] + The mayor we elect should ideally look very town, and be very accountable to his or her reads. This basically requires the player to be active and good at hunting scum as town. They also need to be capable of leading while sufficiently malleable to the opinions of others-in other words if they can coordinate a town circle and consolidate opinions that they receive from a majority of the players in the game. They should be very active in PMs.
In light of this marvellosity and Mig would be ideally the best candidates if we can determine they are likely town. + Show Spoiler [2] + In Marv's case this is probably harder but if he is town he'd most definitely be the best choice. He has good reads, is active, and has played with most if not all of the players in the game.
Mig on the other hand is far more accountable as town, because he's one of the easiest scum players to catch. Essentially if he's not making sense and he's not actively finding scum, he's scum. His reads tend to be really good as town and make absolutely no sense whatsoever as scum. He hasn't played much recently but he'd still be a great choice for mayor.
I'm unwilling to vote DH if either of these other two can establish themselves as town with good reads. I'm unwilling to vote DH in general because as a scum hunter I do not think he is good enough. He does not know the current players well enough- by virtue of his comment on not knowing who Xatalos is this should be pretty apparent. I also do not think he displays the proper mindset to be able to catch scum, and would probably be more likely to push bad or slightly disruptive townies simply for the reasons of disagreeing with them. Disagreements should be welcomed as long as they are properly reasoned. Lastly I do not think DH is as capable of leading as either of the other two, especially again as he does not know what to expect from some of these players given that he does not know them well enough. His posts so far have simply been long winded and relatively devoid of substance. They certainly have been written well, but often they do not carry a point that is worth the 300 words it is accompanied with.
I think that everyone should be PMing players they think they can read easily in PMs-attempt to get a feel for the alignments of different people by PMing them. If you encounter a player who does not much effort in discussing reads with you, then you should be alarmed and should probably consider calling them out in thread.
For now if anyone has questions you are all encouraged to PM me. I will be a bit busy today but hopefully should get the time to answer everyone throughout the day when I have breaks. At spoiler 1 I thought this guy is guy but kept reading the boring monologue.
At spoiler 2, I realised this guy is scum.
##Shoot: doge
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HEAR YE, HEAR YE
To those that desire the vote of 1/25th of this game.
If thou wil indulge my simple pleasure by lynching "suchdoge"
MY vote will be forever yours during this Day 1.
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On January 11 2014 20:14 suchdoge wrote: Care to explain where you disagree Mocsta?
If you want, we can take it to PMs. I have nothing to hide, and am more than happy to continue shitting up the thread.
My issue is precisely without lies outside the spoilers.
Having said that, I jsut finished reading what lies within the spoilers and am equally dismayed.
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On January 11 2014 20:18 suchdoge wrote: Who we think is scum. clearly you
Who we think is almost certainly town. clearly me
Do you not want to do that? I already did.
Your turn.
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Wow
Thats really town of you doge.
Force informatoin out of me and then return the favour.
If the mayor doesnt kill you, I will.
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On January 11 2014 22:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 19:21 Mocsta wrote:On January 11 2014 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate more please. I can't know how you reached to the conclusion because i don't see your thought process in thread. Nor does anyone else. Thats how we all feel about your play, each and every game. Just stop it will you? You're not funny, you're not clever, you're not amusing, you're not making anyone's game more pleasant and interesting, you're just being a selfish asshole. Well done you. Aren't you just a star. Thank you, dear ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
You gave me exactly what I was looking for. This was precisely the motivation I needed to continue.
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