Please read the entire thread before signing up. Thank you.
Clarity_nl and Mattchew will be co-hosting. All actions and votes must be submitted to all hosts or you risk having it not counted.
This game will differ from a standard mafia game as there is no mafia faction. However, it still will require many qualities of a regularly mafia game including persuasion and deception.
It will be based upon the Big Brother reality show. While knowledge of this show is not necessary, it may come in handy at certain points in the game. Although the mechanics of this game will significantly different from Survivor and Survivor II, it may play out similarly if you wish to read them for reference.
Each cycle has two main phases.
1) The Head of Household Competition and Nomination Ceremony - Each cycle one player will be chosen as the Head of Household (HoH). The method by which this player is selected may vary from week to week. A player may not become the HoH two weeks in a row, until three players remain. During this period, each player must submit two nominations to the hosts via PM. The player who wins the Head of Household competition will have their nominations selected.
2) The Eviction - The players who are not nominated will privately vote for the player they wish to evict and remove from the game. In the event of a tie, the HoH will cast the deciding vote. Voting is mandatory and the vote count will be revealed at the end of the cycle, however the votes will remain anonymous.
When only two players remain, the final seven evicted players will return and serve as the jury to select the one and only winner.
Other mechanics may be introduced throughout the game.
This game will feature a limited PM system. Be sure to check the OP for the current PM rules.
Activity Requirements: I anticipate that the time required to play this game will be significantly lower than your average game. It will last approximately three weeks. There will be no official posting requirements in the thread. Voting is mandatory, but I will not modkill anyone who does not submit a vote. Any actions or votes that are not submitted by the deadline will be randomized by the hosts.
The length of each phase may vary from cycle to cycle, with a phase possibly being as short as 12 hours to accommodate a reasonable pace. While this game may not have a huge time requirement, it will require you to have a reasonable availability to frequently submit simple actions within a large period of time. I will try my best keep the OP updated with the current deadline and the future deadline. I will also allow some actions to be submitted early in the event that you are unavailable. For example, you may submit a list of players ranked in the order of voting preference if you are unavailable for nominations or voting.
Diary Room: At any point in the game, players may PM the hosts with a private diary room submission that will be broadcasted live to all the viewers back home!
Standard rules regarding cheating, editing, and civility apply. Please remember that this is a game and do not take any actions personal.
Haha. A while ago i played a BYOR round where we had to play a BB side game.
HoH's were decided by mini-games which were awful, things like "kiss Justin Bieber" game and "dress this girl to get the best date". And oh boy people cheated on those games. :D
Finale eviction (where there were 2 players) the other one of the people left was a site admin and he bribed people into voting him by giving privileges like colored usernames and stuff in case he wins. It was kinda hilarious.
Anyways not really my type of game, but sure funny. ^^ I'll be watching this one!
On December 10 2013 07:22 Bereft wrote: I want to /in this, but why is the anticipated run time 3 weeks?? I have the attention span of a 5 year old.
With 10 players, the game will last at least 9 cycles at 48 hours a piece. It's possible that I could make the voting phase only 12 hours or combine the allowed time for the nominations/voting. Anything shorter than 12 hours per phase is going to cause availability issues.
Activity Requirements: I anticipate that the time required to play this game will be significantly lower than your average game. It will last approximately three weeks. There will be no official posting requirements in the thread. Voting is mandatory, but I will not modkill anyone who does not submit a vote. Any actions or votes that are not submitted by the deadline will be randomized by the hosts.
Activity Requirements: I anticipate that the time required to play this game will be significantly lower than your average game. It will last approximately three weeks. There will be no official posting requirements in the thread. Voting is mandatory, but I will not modkill anyone who does not submit a vote. Any actions or votes that are not submitted by the deadline will be randomized by the hosts.
So voting is not mandatory, then.
It means if you don't vote your vote will be randomed. It's mandatory in the sense that every player in the game has to have a vote, whether it's their own or randomed. Though I guess mandatory isn't the right word for it.
Citizens of TL! A ring of derp surrounds your rotten city! We will crush all who dare to resist the will of the Red Army! Abandon your posts, abandon your homes, abandon all hope!
The OP has been updated. I've decided to combine the Head of Household competition and nomination ceremony phases. Players will submit their nominations via PM to the hosts, which will be used in the event that player wins the HoH.
PM me for the obs qt where you can have a direct impact on the game. You may be selected to tune in even if we don't hear from you!
Diary Room: At any point in the game, players may PM the hosts with a private diary room submission that will be broadcasted live to all the viewers back home!
On December 12 2013 04:31 kitaman27 wrote: PM me for the obs qt where you can have a direct impact on the game. You may be selected to tune in even if we don't hear from you!
Diary Room: At any point in the game, players may PM the hosts with a private diary room submission that will be broadcasted live to all the viewers back home!
Dude this game is gonna be sick. TL vs OMGUS incoming.
OMGUS players are exactly half of this game, + Coag in replacements. Yeah let's fucking do it.
who here is not from omgus?? let's form a minority alliance and slowly dominate as the underdogs once we convince whoever's bottom bitch on the omgus alliance to flip!
On December 12 2013 04:31 kitaman27 wrote: PM me for the obs qt where you can have a direct impact on the game. You may be selected to tune in even if we don't hear from you!
Diary Room: At any point in the game, players may PM the hosts with a private diary room submission that will be broadcasted live to all the viewers back home!
Dude this game is gonna be sick. TL vs OMGUS incoming.
Whose side are you on? Van and VE combine for an unstoppable war machine of hate and malice, IMO IMO.
Julie Chen: Welcome to Big Brother! I'm your host Julie Chen and thanks to the miracles of plastic surgery, I'm looking less Asian than ever! In a few minutes, our ten contestants will enter the Big Brother House. But first, lets take a few minutes to get to meet them:
Julie Chen: Welcome yamato! What makes you think you have what it takes to win Big Brother?
yamato77: As I'm sure you know, most people tend to think that I'm a real lovable person. And for those who don't, they can go shove a f$%&ing *#&$ up their $(^ %$*& &%&$. But in general, I get along with just about everyone.
Julie Chen: Err, thanks yamato. Next up we have Rean! So Rean, what inspired you to apply and come on the show?
Rean: To be honest, I was just hoping to get a roof over my head. Please don't vote me out. It's so cold....
Julie Chen: Umm, ok then. Now lets welcome VisceraEyes to the stage. Tell us about what you've done to prepare for the show.
VisceraEyes: Well Julie, I quit my job a few months ago and decided to watch the last 37 seasons back to back without any sleep. It may seem like a big commitment, but it's all going to be worth it when I win the half a million dollar grand prize.
Julie Chen: Right about that.....Anyways folks, that's all the time we have. It's now time for our players to enter the Big Brother House. Remember, everything action you take will be aired live to millions or viewers. Yes, we even watch you sleep. Good luck!
You may refer to the OP for the current phase and deadline.
Day 1 PM Rules: Room Selection - When the game begins, players will decide between 3 rooms. Room A will have 4 players, rooms B and C will have 3 players. Rooms will be chosen on a first come, first serve basis by typing ##Select Room A, B or C. Players that share a room may exchange PMs during the entire first cycle.
Day 1 Head of Household Selection: Players will have 24 hours to vote on the first HoH. Ties will be broken based on the first player to reach critical mass. All voting will be done in the thread and must be formatted as follows: ##Vote Julie Chen. Nominations must be made prior to the HoH selection deadline via pm during the first 24 hours.
Please remember to send nominations to myself and Mattchew. HoH selection ends in .
No how it works is we vote for someone for HoH and everyone nominates 2 people for eviction via PMs...then if you're the winner, the hosts already have your picks.
Oh yeah, I forgot this shit was a 12 hour cycle. Well host, you're not getting my list of people because you were dumb and scheduled a 12 hour deadline to occur from 9PM to 9AM.
On December 12 2013 12:22 iVLosK! wrote: Well host, you're not getting my list of people because you were dumb and scheduled a 12 hour deadline to occur from 9PM to 9AM.
Well contestant, I may be dumb, but at least I'm literate.
On December 12 2013 11:00 kitaman27 wrote: HoH selection ends in .
Host I want a confirmation when that diary room confession gets posted, please and thank you. If you're a woman, except my apologies and reverse any stated gender I may or may not have included before or after "knuckle-dragging douchenozzle and shit stain on what otherwise was a pretty decent earth."
can we evict oats first? he doesn't even know what kind of game this is. just signed up without paying attention. dude is not vocal and not active and i want him out.
On December 12 2013 13:15 kushm4sta wrote: can we evict oats first? he doesn't even know what kind of game this is. just signed up without paying attention. dude is not vocal and not active and i want him out.
Ok so the way to play this game is either get voted into the HoH or to not be noticable at all. Clearly evicting me does nothing cause nobody is gonna vote for me. So dont evict me.
On December 12 2013 13:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so the way to play this game is either get voted into the HoH or to not be noticable at all. Clearly evicting me does nothing cause nobody is gonna vote for me. So dont evict me.
VE, you should evict yamato
A vote for me would be a step in that direction Oats.
On December 12 2013 13:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so the way to play this game is either get voted into the HoH or to not be noticable at all. Clearly evicting me does nothing cause nobody is gonna vote for me. So dont evict me.
VE, you should evict yamato
A vote for me would be a step in that direction Oats.
On December 12 2013 13:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so the way to play this game is either get voted into the HoH or to not be noticable at all. Clearly evicting me does nothing cause nobody is gonna vote for me. So dont evict me.
VE, you should evict yamato
A vote for me would be a step in that direction Oats.
You seem to want to evict me.
Only if the theme of your play this game remains "Negative yet entitled". Otherwise I have no beef with you.
On December 12 2013 13:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so the way to play this game is either get voted into the HoH or to not be noticable at all. Clearly evicting me does nothing cause nobody is gonna vote for me. So dont evict me.
VE, you should evict yamato
A vote for me would be a step in that direction Oats.
You seem to want to evict me.
Only if the theme of your play this game remains "Negative yet entitled". Otherwise I have no beef with you.
Does it read like that? My bad. So who do you want to evict?
Well without anyone posting, I'd say that yamato and Van have the most potential to be toxic to the house - however present posting taken into account, I'd say rayn takes Van's spot as most likely to be toxic.
Well yeah, no one wants to live in a house that's fraught with fighting. I mean, a little drama is to be expected, but I'm talking about senseless aggression and pointless anger. Yamato and rayn are both players whom I suspect we will have this problem with.
I think its hard to have fighting if there are no town/scum factions. Because how you play the game doesnt affect other people anymore. Isnt the point of the game to be the last person evicted? What would you do to help you achieve that, Rean/VE?
On December 12 2013 14:06 kushm4sta wrote: OATS you don't even understand lol. and you never will cause you gonna get evicted before shit starts getting real.
It's not a BAD attitude. He's not like...picking a fight with you or anything.
I'm not sure what you want me to elaborate on. Are you asking me how I intend to win? I don't know man, just by lasting longer in the game than everyone. Just like everyone else. I'm just not sure what you're asking me.
Seeing as kushm4sta has not yet agreed to the demands of the sovereign kingdom of Rean, I shall now publicly post proof that I have taken his beloved wizzydams capture.
I would urge you all to speak sense into kush to ensure that he complies with our requests. I'd really hate for wizzydams to meet her unfortunate end and I'm sure everyone here feels the same.
Oats I'm just going to do what I do. If you want strategy advice, heed Kush's. This isn't forum Mafia, you don't need to be after people for "content", just chillax, do your thing, and get along with everyone.
No, I'm not saying don't post. I'm saying you don't have to be consistently asking people questions trying to get information. You're not trying to figure out anyone's alignment. You're just chiggity chattin and voting me for Head of Household.
On December 12 2013 15:03 VisceraEyes wrote: No, I'm not saying don't post. I'm saying you don't have to be consistently asking people questions trying to get information. You're not trying to figure out anyone's alignment. You're just chiggity chattin and voting me for Head of Household.
Like, unless you intend to run yourself or have someone else in mind, that just reads as spite to me. Spite, much like toxicity, will not be tolerated. You have been warned.
VE you are basically approaching this game completely wrong IMO. It's not about being nice to people. It's about winners and losers and working together with people to make sure you are among the winners not the losers.
Have you even ever seen a reality show???? IM NOT HERE TO MAKE FRIENDS IM HERE tO WIN. ##evict oats
I have no authority yet, but I see what you're getting at. I just don't think he's an issue that requires immediate eviction. He's already proven that he's going to be more active than half the game just by being here. I'm okay with him sticking around if he's gonna play the game.
So kush, how is what you are doing, which is shitting on Oats and campaigning for VE understanding the game? Do you want me to play or not kush?
VE, its not spite, its carefully calculated strategy. I dont think you will evict me, so I prefer trying to get the support of other people with my vote, rather than 'waste' it on you. And nobody is gonna vote for me so yeah theres that. Although I really dont get it. ##Vote Oatsmaster
Based on what's been said so far the only person i do NOT want to win this game for sure is VE. All the bandwagoners are sneaky bitches too because they let VE take the heat and don't care who gets evicted if it's not them. ##Select Room
Dunno who to vote for yet, Oats seems like a nice pick.
kush VE is telling me and yamato will do something in this game before we havn't even posted once. Anyways if you vote for VE you don't get my vote for HoH or for winning the game in the end, that's for sure.
On December 12 2013 16:36 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no idea how kush could win this, too many people hate his guys
kush doesn't know what he is doing apparently. He will trust wrong people, then they'll backstab him when the time is right and he'll not even notice it..
rayn wtf are you talking about... your posts are slimy as fuck and ve's are just about being a bro and stuff. sorry but you are the one who looks like he's gonna stab someone in the back if anyone.
yes I am rude and trolly and shit, but know this I am loyal. And I will not take my vote off VE for literally any reason.
On December 12 2013 18:35 kushm4sta wrote: rayn wtf are you talking about... your posts are slimy as fuck and ve's are just about being a bro and stuff. sorry but you are the one who looks like he's gonna stab someone in the back if anyone.
yes I am rude and trolly and shit, but know this I am loyal. And I will not take my vote off VE for literally any reason.
Yeah kush posts like this make me think what i just said about you. Think about this as a game where everyone is their own scum faction and in the end everyone you have gotten killed must vote who is the lesser scum of the two who are left.
Of course everyone is being slimy as fuck, of course everyone will stab everyone in the back. At least i am being honest about it. ^^
I have a suggestion for everyone who's not in Room A:
Look at those people's posts. It's clear they have formed an alliance and trying to shit over everyone who is not there. But, we have power in numbers. It's 6-4. Let's vote Oatsmaster for HoH and get rid of those people who otherwise have the vote majority and therefore can control the vote unless we work together.
Here's the proposition in full. We vote Oats together for HoH. Oats nominates 2 people from room A. Repeat until all of those guys are evicted. They clearly have an agenda and that is for all of them to trust each other and get rid of other people.
On December 12 2013 19:21 Oatsmaster wrote: rayn wtf? Why not room with me bro?
Kush, you will stab everyone in the back
It doesn't really matter. It's only PM's for the first cycle. I think room A has a clear plan and we must only counter it. There will be no need for PM's to do that. It's quite clear it helps everyone in rooms B & C and doing anything else will only help people in room A.
We can PM later in case another possibility will come up (i'm quite sure it will).
btw I'm not even worried about kush and VE at this point because they are playing quite self-suicidal and only fueling Rean's & Losk's play. Those are the people i want out. They are clearly the people who sit back and laugh when VE and kush put theirselves out there -> collect no negative credit. They are making other people do things for them, those sneaky bitches.
difference between rayn alliance and ve alliance is that rayn alliance is just this turn. ve alliance is for LIFE (as a guest in this house).
Also if you join with rayn think of who your HoH is going to be... fucking oats.. yup the dude who lurks in EVERY SINGLE mafia game and he is fucking totally unreadable and annoying.
fucking one liners and shit i would never elect him anything.
Also if you join with rayn think of who your HoH is going to be... fucking oats.. yup the dude who lurks in EVERY SINGLE mafia game and he is fucking totally unreadable and annoying.
I'm not particularly thrilled that Room A seems to think they own the world, but neither do I feel any need to antagonize them. That said, apparently VE thinks it's a good play to make me his enemy, so it's obvious that I probably won't be voting him for HoH.
I'm not trying to be anyone's enemy, nor was I trying to say what you guys would do before you posted. Oats asked me a question and I answered it. Honestly. I don't see what the problem is.
Now Rayn wants to remove my whole room? I see I was right about Rayn at least.
On December 12 2013 21:25 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not trying to be anyone's enemy, nor was I trying to say what you guys would do before you posted. Oats asked me a question and I answered it. Honestly. I don't see what the problem is.
Now Rayn wants to remove my whole room? I see I was right about Rayn at least.
I just said that's not what i want. But i won't explain to you why what you are doing is bad for everyone who's not in Room A because obviously you are not going to agree.
On December 12 2013 21:48 kushm4sta wrote: I think VE will kill rayn first. How is that now desirable to everyone?
First of all VE can't kill anyone and second it's not even clear he's the one who will put people up for eviction. I hope you consider what i have said kush, right now you are not playing for your own victory condition.
On December 12 2013 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Apparently Room A is full.
I have a suggestion for everyone who's not in Room A:
Look at those people's posts. It's clear they have formed an alliance and trying to shit over everyone who is not there. But, we have power in numbers. It's 6-4. Let's vote Oatsmaster for HoH and get rid of those people who otherwise have the vote majority and therefore can control the vote unless we work together.
Here's the proposition in full. We vote Oats together for HoH. Oats nominates 2 people from room A. Repeat until all of those guys are evicted. They clearly have an agenda and that is for all of them to trust each other and get rid of other people.
I say we counter it right now.
##Vote Oatsmaster
That's not what this says. So yeah, a. Vote for be is a vote to remove Raynor presently.
On December 12 2013 22:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm reading just fine. You literally said remove everyone in room A. Literally.
On December 12 2013 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw I'm not even worried about kush and VE at this point because they are playing quite self-suicidal and only fueling Rean's & Losk's play. Those are the people i want out. They are clearly the people who sit back and laugh when VE and kush put theirselves out there -> collect no negative credit. They are making other people do things for them, those sneaky bitches.
I don't care what your backtrack says Rayn.you made you intentions quite clear the first time. Stay packing your things. Our don't bother unpacking. Whichever applicable.
You can't have it both ways. This is my case in why we should elect Oats.
There is a voting block on Room A. Those people are allowed to make plans without anyone else knowing about them. They are clearly haeding towards removing everyone else from the game and sort themselves out when there is only 4 people left.
I am not sure if VE and kush realize if this is the case. However: 1) in case they do not realize this, they are unintentionally helping Rean & Losk and screwing everyone else over. 2) in case they do realize this, they are screwing over other people even more
In either case we must kill the voting block before 3rd eviction because at that point the vote will be 4-4 and we can't do shit about it. We do not know how the second HoH election is determined. We however do know how they first HoH is elected. Therefore the best thing everyone else than people in room A can do is to vote Oats for HoH and remove one of Rean / Losk.
If you do anything else you are very likely to get screwed over their voting block later on and you are playing against your wincon.
On December 12 2013 22:11 Oatsmaster wrote: So you wont put up for eviction people who voted for you. Ok. I didnt really care who you wanted evicted at this point of time.
Rayn, he was reading that big post where you voted me.
Do you understand if someone from room A gets HoH on D1 and D2 everyone else is screwed.
Funny how VE says he wants to evict me because i promote "toxic atmosphere". I don't think i have dona anything like that in this game. Now it's because i oppose his plan to get rid of everyone but room A (which is quite clear is what they are doing). You just need to read pages 4-6 in this game to realize it.
I already said that's not what i am promoting. That was my first impression but i do not know if that's accurate. VE do you agree what i said about Rean and Losk?
VE, you get voted in today, lets say a lurker gets evicted. Tmr, you will vote for one of your Room A buddies right? And that person will evict outside Room A, rinse and repeat. Am I wrong here?
On December 12 2013 22:32 Oatsmaster wrote: VE, you get voted in today, lets say a lurker gets evicted. Tmr, you will vote for one of your Room A buddies right? And that person will evict outside Room A, rinse and repeat. Am I wrong here?
There are no plans outside of D1. Yes I have promised not to remove anyone in Room A...but think for a second. Everyone in Room A it's actively playing the game and is in direct contact with me. Why WOULD I remove any of those dudes? Unless they start flaming or lurking I have no reason to remove them.
VE i dont get why you are playing it down? Yes we have a super alliance. Yes we are making nefarious plans to own all of you. Join us.
Want to talk about playing against your wincon rayn? Playing against your wincon is joining the alliance when you can join the empire. There is strength in numbers and it is stragetically beneficial for players to join our voting block.
Joining you is a suicide because everyone with half a brain knows when everyone who's not with you is dead you start killing outside you four. The only problem with your plan is you guys made it too obvious. Now it's just the matter if the rest of the people are wise enough to believe me because that's exactly what's gonna happen if you join those guys.
On December 12 2013 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote: No I said FOR D1 I'm not choosing anyone in the room. You are saying we are trying to goo after non Room A all game. That is simply not true.
Do you promise this is true? I could consider voting for you if you promise this. Note that if you do promise this and do not keep your promise you make a lot of people angry and even if you get for top 2 they will most likely not vote for your win.
Okay, that's enough for me. you are certainly putting yourself out there and taking responsibility for your actions and at least being honest. In case you are lying it will get back to you, but i do not think you would intentionally want to make 6 people angry for you because it makes winning much harder for you. You made a promise for everyone in this game.
kush is being honest, i get the same feeling for Oats.
I don't know how much you have been PMing with Rean/Losk but i get the feeling they make you and kush do things (promote their agenda) without sticking their necks out. I do not like that. I suggest you keep an eye on them, i think they are dangerous regardless of what they tell you now. Trust them or not, but keep an eye on them because everyone is playing for themselves.
yamato i ahve no idea about, what have they talked with Oats i dunno. Maybe a lot, maybe nothing. Time will tell.
But VE, i am not contributing toward toxic atmosphere. It's a suicide in this game because there is no right or wrong, everyone wants to survive and everyone wants every other people dead. Nobody wants to make enemies unless you make more friends than enemies.
On December 12 2013 23:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Van was seeing a lady-friend about moistening his man-parts as far as I know. Knowing Van that's likely true.
As players cannot enter or leave the Big Brother House as they please, he must have been referring to a fellow contestant. Is a showmance beginning to brew? Stay tuned!
See tmr, another one from Room 1 will run. And they will not evict the people in Room 1. For sure. This will happen. So we are left with 4-4. Which means everyone in Room 1 will back each other up until there are only Room 1 people remaining. VE, is this untrue to your knowledge?
On December 12 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok sorry, VE isnt lying, but he is misleading.
No Oats, if he is misleading us he is making 6 people angry. If he makes 6 people angry he can't possibly win this game. Therefore if he lies it's a lose-lose scenario for him.
VE i suggest a lurker-eviction for D1. Do you agree?
This is untrue to my knowledge. Unless my roomies were planning behind my back, we have made no plans past D1. D1 plan is vote VE, evict outside Room A. They don't care who. I have said how I be selecting eviction.
Its 5 people after tmr Rayn. Also he cant even be voted into power until there are 8 contestants left. VE, will you vote for Room 1 people over other people assuming everything else is equal?
He made a PROMISE that's not what he is trying to do. If he does not keep that promise (i.e. if other people get whacked and they believe VE was lying) he won't win the game. This is not a team game, this is every man for himself.
If VE is lying he's effectively losing the game for himself, that's why i do not believe he is lying.
On December 12 2013 23:26 VisceraEyes wrote: This is untrue to my knowledge. Unless my roomies were planning behind my back, we have made no plans past D1. D1 plan is vote VE, evict outside Room A. They don't care who. I have said how I be selecting eviction.
On December 12 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok sorry, VE isnt lying, but he is misleading.
No Oats, if he is misleading us he is making 6 people angry. If he makes 6 people angry he can't possibly win this game. Therefore if he lies it's a lose-lose scenario for him.
VE i suggest a lurker-eviction for D1. Do you agree?
Toxicity takes precedence too me but if everyone plays nice then yes lurkers my next targets.
What is that promise Rayn? That he will keep an open mind? Cause thats all Im seeing. I dont see any promises that say, "I will evict into Room 1 if I get voted again"
If room A has a plan i assumed VE is the one who is thrown under the bus when they are the only people left. It's clear. If other people than VE from room A continue whacking other people after D1 (without proper reasoning) VE get's blamed because he promised us that's not what they will do.
It's not like thay are a team, because while they can have an alliance NOW, only one can win. If VE is lying to us now, he can't possibly win, because he is making too many enemies. If room A backstabs VE or tries to go against what VE said D2 and after that, VE can't join their alliace, because he gets blamed for it.
What is so hard about guessing VE? You know van and kush and somewhat of Rean. Do you think that you 4 will vote together, who is gonna run day 2, maybe someone splinters off.
You guys need to understand. Room A is not an evil empire, it's a brolliance asskickers and shitfuckers who would fucking kill for each other. We're like the samurais, but about 1/4 that nerdy. We're like D-linemen, who lovingly refer to each other as hogs *pause for tears as Van relives football days* hogs in the shade do what they please, losers. So you can be on the winning side of this shit hole, or the losing side. Room A dont give a shit.
Oats I had hoped you would join your OMGUS brethren in our glorious victory but it is of little importance. For your disloyalty, you will be evicted and slain.
So clearly Van wants Room 1 in the top 4. Kush also wants Room 1 in the top 4.
VE says he has no opinion but he wants Room 1 in the top 4 more than any other 3 people. Rean probably wants Room 1 in the top 4. And everyone outside Room 1 wants to lose?
On December 12 2013 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote: So clearly Van wants Room 1 in the top 4. Kush also wants Room 1 in the top 4.
VE says he has no opinion but he wants Room 1 in the top 4 more than any other 3 people. Rean probably wants Room 1 in the top 4. And everyone outside Room 1 wants to lose?
This is incorrect. People outside Room A (That's what it's called, there aren't any numbers) can still be selected to be on the winning side. Should one of my bros step out of line we'll most certainly be needing a better bro to fill his place.
Room A will crush all who oppose us. The simple way to avoid that is not to oppose us, bitch.
kushm4sta, while your continued resistance is admirable, I must remind you that this is taking it's toll on your beloved wizzydams. We have begun subjecting her to crueler and crueler forms of torture. See attachment for proof. I suggest you capitulate with haste before her situation becomes truly unbearable.
Yes, that is indeed a marathon of Justin Bieber concerts, music videos and other video material. Do you see now the lengths we will go to to ensure we get what we want? The kingdom of Rean will stop at nothing, NOTHING to achieve their goals.
On December 12 2013 23:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Winning side? 1 person is a side Van?
Don't call me Van, traitorous swine. If it was me who was head of household your ass would be adorning our house mantle with the inscription (in your ass) "Here lies Oats, who was too cowardly to protect and serve his bros, as is required of him."
So the only people contributing to toxic thread atmosphere atm are Losk and Rean. Change your tone guys please. You won't win the game if you make too much enemies.
On December 13 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: So the only people contributing to toxic thread atmosphere atm are Losk and Rean. Change your tone guys please. You won't win the game if you make too much enemies.
On December 13 2013 00:07 Oatsmaster wrote: ok so what is gonna happen on day 2, is that one of the 3 remaining Room 1 people will campaign and IF they get elected, vote to evict me.
We don't have any plans that far into the future, but I hope this is how it turns out.
"Toxic thread atmosphere"... Lol, I'm sorry, you must be lost. The mafia games are that way, *points away from here* this here is not mafia and there's no such thing as a "toxic" atmosphere or a pro-town atmosphere. You try to bullshit the game again and I'll lay your ass out.
On December 13 2013 00:07 Oatsmaster wrote: ok so what is gonna happen on day 2, is that one of the 3 remaining Room 1 people will campaign and IF they get elected, vote to evict me.
We don't have any plans that far into the future, but I hope this is how it turns out.
"Toxic thread atmosphere"... Lol, I'm sorry, you must be lost. The mafia games are that way, *points away from here* this here is not mafia and there's no such thing as a "toxic" atmosphere or a pro-town atmosphere. You try to bullshit the game again and I'll lay your ass out.
I believed you had some grand plan and opposed it. When VE said that's not what's going on i took his word for it. You and Rean are just trying to make people who don't straight up agree with your room angry. I notice shitposting when i see it. Don't try to make it look like it's something that it's not.
Fuck you then, Coag is the first replacement and as soon as one of these TL noobs gets modkilled he's gonna all up in the dirty, if you know what I mean.
On December 13 2013 00:19 iVLosK! wrote: Fuck you then, Coag is the first replacement and as soon as one of these TL noobs gets modkilled he's gonna all up in the dirty, if you know what I mean.
Vote Oats and he will evict this scumbag from the house of niceness.
Rayn did you get lost on your way to a mafia game or something? Srs. You keep talking about ruining thread atmosphere but guess what, you antogonizing me and Van is doing exactly that. You gotta chill out.
Like, there's no "productive" in this game. We don't need to PRODUCE anything. Just being here, he's more productive than ~half the players. Do you not still agree that we should vote out a lurker?
On December 13 2013 01:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Like, there's no "productive" in this game. We don't need to PRODUCE anything. Just being here, he's more productive than ~half the players. Do you not still agree that we should vote out a lurker?
Yeah i do. and i disagree, there is a lot we can do here. mindgamezzz!
On December 13 2013 01:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Like, there's no "productive" in this game. We don't need to PRODUCE anything. Just being here, he's more productive than ~half the players. Do you not still agree that we should vote out a lurker?
Yeah i do. and i disagree, there is a lot we can do here. mindgamezzz!
On December 13 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: I like those guys too, but if they're not gonna play then why should they stick around over like, you or me or Oats or anyone who's actively playing?
Perhaps they get replaced?
If we do pick out of them, as it seems now, I know the least about Bereft. I would vote for him for eviction over either of the other two.
However, I'll leave my vote on myself. I don't hate the idea, it's just not what I would do. And I don't trust you either.
On December 13 2013 04:14 kushm4sta wrote: i would evict the shit out of you yamato if i were HoH. So tired of your subtle anti kush attitude which pervades over every word you say.
I have said nothing about you, kush. This has nothing to do with you.
On December 13 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: I like those guys too, but if they're not gonna play then why should they stick around over like, you or me or Oats or anyone who's actively playing?
Perhaps they get replaced?
If we do pick out of them, as it seems now, I know the least about Bereft. I would vote for him for eviction over either of the other two.
However, I'll leave my vote on myself. I don't hate the idea, it's just not what I would do. And I don't trust you either.
Host made it clear there wouldn't be modkills for failure to vote.
On December 13 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: I like those guys too, but if they're not gonna play then why should they stick around over like, you or me or Oats or anyone who's actively playing?
Perhaps they get replaced?
If we do pick out of them, as it seems now, I know the least about Bereft. I would vote for him for eviction over either of the other two.
However, I'll leave my vote on myself. I don't hate the idea, it's just not what I would do. And I don't trust you either.
Host made it clear there wouldn't be modkills for failure to vote.
Modkill is different from replace. The game breaks if you just remove someone from the game, but if you replace an inactive who fails to vote, nothing changes (as their vote was randomed anyway).
Meh - modkill implies that the slot is removed from the game, where replacement implies that the slot is still in the game. It's a vernacular breakdown between OMGUS and TL I think.
A gas leak has been discovered in Room C! Please note that Big Brother is not liable for anyone who may have sustained long term brain damage. We had you sign those health waivers! I hope....
Room Updates: If you create a quicktopic for your room, please PM me the link.
hi guys! my name is Lauren, and I'm a model/actress currently working as a waitress in socal! the waitressing thing is just for the time being until I get scouted, which I know will be any day now. in my free time I love doing yoga, making vegetable smoothies, going out with my sorority girls (#girlsnightout, am I right??), getting mani pedis, and just generally having fun. I can't wait to get to know all of you and have fun in the big brother house!
xoxo Lauren
PS: really sorry for my absence guys, work has been a bit of a bitch this week, but I promise I'll catch up on the thread once home tonight.
because I was an inactive. but I'm here now! and if I can just make it to this weekend/next week I will be back in the states (no longer travelling) and fcking rocking it.
On December 13 2013 07:52 Bereft wrote: hi guys! my name is Lauren, and I'm a model/actress currently working as a waitress in socal! the waitressing thing is just for the time being until I get scouted, which I know will be any day now. in my free time I love doing yoga, making vegetable smoothies, going out with my sorority girls (#girlsnightout, am I right??), getting mani pedis, and just generally having fun. I can't wait to get to know all of you and have fun in the big brother house!
xoxo Lauren
PS: really sorry for my absence guys, work has been a bit of a bitch this week, but I promise I'll catch up on the thread once home tonight.
Host didnt even change the names given out? Sloppy as fuck.
On December 13 2013 07:52 Bereft wrote: hi guys! my name is Lauren, and I'm a model/actress currently working as a waitress in socal! the waitressing thing is just for the time being until I get scouted, which I know will be any day now. in my free time I love doing yoga, making vegetable smoothies, going out with my sorority girls (#girlsnightout, am I right??), getting mani pedis, and just generally having fun. I can't wait to get to know all of you and have fun in the big brother house!
xoxo Lauren
PS: really sorry for my absence guys, work has been a bit of a bitch this week, but I promise I'll catch up on the thread once home tonight.
Host didnt even change the names given out? Sloppy as fuck.
On December 13 2013 09:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah yeah, I'm onto you pal.
Looking for excuses to do what you actually wanted to all along?
Yamato I'm offended. Why would I want to be rid of you when I have no excuse to think you're scum?!
So it is just how I thought it was. You're not ACTUALLY going to nominate a "lurker", you're just going to pick potential threats like myself and try to get rid of me early.
On December 13 2013 10:25 Oatsmaster wrote: bereft, you know what happens if you vote for VE? You lose the game because Room 1 just takes care of their own
Just say it. You're so pissed you're not in room 1 and having fun with all TE cool kids. We made you bunk up with TE nerds and you hate us for it,
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Julie Chen: Congratulations VisceraEyes, tou've been selected our the first Head of Household! Now lets begin the nomination ceremony.
VisceraEyes: I've chosen to nominate Onegu and kush4sta for eviction.
Julie Chen: Wow, this season sure is starting to heat up fast. And with any season of Big Brother, you must also remember to expect the unexpected!
Julie Chen: As runner-up, by virtue of the tiebreaker, Oatsmaster has been awarded the Power of Veto! Within the next 12 hours, you may remove one of VE's nominations from the block. VE must then submit a new nomination in their place and he may not nominate the veto winner.
Onegu and Dienosore will be given 24 hours to wake from their comma. Otherwise, they will be replaced. After the first cycle, I'll probably have the next HoH competition overlap with the voting to speed up the game, but for now, you'll have a full 24 hours for voting.
Voting ends in . Votes must be submitted privately to Mattchew and myself. If the player you vote for is saved by the power of veto, please remember to submit another vote.
The only reason I was hyper aggro was to save VE from looking bad. And this is how he repays me? This is how VE treats his allies. VE's loyalty and manliness is a joke.
honestly from a strategic standpoint it is quite dumb to evict me. I am a loudmouth and therefore you shouldn't really be threatened by me because im not going to win. On the other hand, there is onegu who is going to get replaced. That replacement will have an unfair advantage over everyone, not having participated in d1. So he is the better eviction.
I chose Onegu because he's either going to be voted out or replaced by Coag.
I chose Kush because he's going to great lengths to cause chaos and discord in this house. This will only get worse as the game progresses. He cannot be trusted.
Kush I'd be interested to hear how a replacement will have any kind of advantage having not played the game so far. This is a game of relationships, and people just coming into the game have none. Preexisting relationships notwithstanding.
kill ve next because he is a liar. I keep it real, but VE does not. He will pretend to be nice and lie to your face then evict you the next day. Van is cool though you can trust him.
No Raynor is not good you just didn't do as you said...downplaying our alliance. You are specifically trying to make me the bad guy here I think. Its okay though Kush. I still wont remove you. :D
Original Message From kushm4sta: yo fuck the rules. we should ally up in this bitch
Game hasn't started yet, I can PM the fuck out of you.
Kush, you know I would never turn down an alliance from you.
Dude he have to turn on ve he's super weak.
These are pms from last night it appears. I didn't reply to either because I was out. I don't know if you two have smoothed it out or not but I thought you should know.
Don't blame him, he responded to MY PM with concerns about your loyalty. Which I was absolutely RIGHT to distrust. Now, any other fear and doubt you care to sprinkle on your way out the door?
Rayn the lurkers likely be replaced. Now that there are only two, there are enough replacements to get actual players in the slots rather than lurkers.
Get rid of Kush because he's mean-spirited, untrustworthy and just generally unpleasant.
And obviously if you let me stay, the room A alliance is going to be fucked. Believe me when I say I will put the eviction of ALL room A members, including rean, who sat idly by and did nothing while my room plotted against me, ahead of my own victory. And that is a good thing for everyone not in room a. ##evict onegu
On December 14 2013 06:19 kushm4sta wrote: And obviously if you let me stay, the room A alliance is going to be fucked. Believe me when I say I will put the eviction of ALL room A members, including rean, who sat idly by and did nothing while my room plotted against me, ahead of my own victory. And that is a good thing for everyone not in room a. ##evict onegu
Well I was considering keeping you around but I guess I can't do that anymore. You've turned your back on Room A.
On December 14 2013 06:35 kushm4sta wrote: yo those pms were private. how was that not understood?
Room A is Room A Kush and you were clearly trying to undermine that sentiment. Saying you have to get rid of me eventually is pointless because if you want to win, obviously you have to get rid of me eventually. What you meant to say was "I want to get rid of VE /soon/." which goes against everything I THOUGHT we were trying to achieve.
So I asked Van if he trusted you. I asked Van if he thought you were trustworthy, and he shared what he knew. Because /he/ knows that Room A is Room A.
Julie Chen: House guests. The votes are in. Once I read the results, the evicted house guest must gather their belongings and exit the Big Brother House immediately.
Julie Chen: By a vote of 4 to 3, kushm4sta, you are evicted from the Big Brother House!
Julie Chen: So I was brainstorming ideas for our next Head of Household competition and I thought it would be really cool if we could let you all out of the House and travel all across the world, competing in challenges along the way. I'd call it The Amazing Chase! For whatever reason, the CBS executives weren't that impressed. Just wait until I have my husband have a talk with them. In the meantime, we're going to do the next best thing!
The next HoH competition will be awarded to the player that receives in highest score in a game of GeoGuessr. You have 24 hours to submit your highest score, by providing the share link that is displayed at the end of the game. No cheating! Remember, we're always watching. As the reigning HoH winner, VE is not eligible to compete. The power of veto will be awarded to the player whose GeoGuessr target is closest to a predetermined hidden location. You have remaining. Remember that nominations must be submitted prior to the end of this phase.
Coagulation has replaced Dienosore and Mr. Cheesecake has replaced Onegu.
Day 2 PM Rules: For the first 24 hours, each player may submit the name of one other player to exchange PMs with. You may not communicate with your roommates, unless they are the player you submit. For the final 24 hours, each player may communicate only with their roommates.
Don't rock the jukebox I wanna hear some Jones My heart ain't ready To hear the Rolling Stones My baby left me And I'm all alone So don't rock the jukebox Play a country song
OOOOOOOOOOOH I thought the diary thing was posted in thread, not in the obs QT. And here I was thinking I'd use the hosts for that little extra trash-talk effectiveness.
I'm here guys, sorry. Was super busy today at work -> Christmas lights story; Americas Next Top Model story; and two really bad car accidents. I'm all caught up right now, but I'll be behind again tomorrow. Good thing my bosses will be gone for the weekend and I can just play mafia at work
Well, I'd like to continue playing if its possible. If it helps, you can pretend we are playing SECRET HIDDEN TWIST BIG BROTHER MAFIA FORUM GAME and I've been actually hiding in the closet or something.
lol i got pretty easy shit in that game like: - "Dawson city store" hmm wonder where this could be? - Some Brazilian city where there was a road sign right where the picture started. - I don't remember the A, there was some shop that was apparently the only one of a kind in the world. - The Russian one was hard, i had two guesses as there was some construction company that worked in 2 cities, picked the wrong one - Had no idea about B, but in earlier games i had some similar landscapes around the area i guessed.
Julie Chen: This Head of Household competition sure was fierce! So much in fact, that Coag managed to take third place by randomly clicking spots on the map.
Julie Chen: However, there can only be one winner, which is raynpelikoneet with a score of 21378! Special shout out to our viewer gonzaw with a high score of 31937.
Julie Chen: It is now time for nominations. Who have you selected?
raynpelikoneet: I have decided to nominate VisceraEyes and iVLosK! for eviction.
Julie Chen: Room A has been targeted again! Now to reveal the winner of the Power of Veto. The player whose target was closest to our secret location, the Big Brother House, was Coagulation! You have 12 hours to remove one nomination from the block. If you do so, rayn must nominate one other player in their place and he may not nominate the veto winner.
Votes are due via PM in . Votes cast in the thread will not count. In the event that the veto is used, but sure to submit an updated vote.
The Big Brother Auction has begun! Each player has been granted 100 Big Brother points to bid on various items. All bids must be submitted via PM by 02:00 GMT (+00:00). In the event of a tie, the first player to submit their vote will win. You may transfer your points between players by PMing the host. In addition, our first America's Choice has begun. One lucky player will be granted an additional 50 Big Brother points based on the votes from our viewers at home.
You may bid on the following powers:
- Head of Household for Day Three - Silencer: Target player may not send or receive PMs for the entire day. Must be used by day six. - Voteblocker: Target player’s vote will not count during the eviction vote of your choice. Must be used by day six. - Immunity: You may not be nominated for eviction on day three. - Mystery Power: ???
The current PM rules are that you may exchange PMs with only your roomates. You may no longer contact the player you have chosen during the first 24 hours.
Julie Chen: As always, once the votes are read, the decision is final. By a vote of 4-2, iVLosK! you have been evicted from the Big Brother House.
Julie Chen: Now onto the Big Brother auction results! You guys never cease to amaze me. Your strategies must be so advanced that I'm simply incapable of understanding them. Only one person decided to use all 100 of their Big Brother dollars during the auction. You guys do realize that the "Big Brother Dollars" aren't a real currency? They hold no real value once you leave the house. Anyways, with his bid of $1, Rean is our next HoH. All additional winnings will be revealed privately via PM. So who have you selected to nominate Rean?
Rean: I have chosen to nominate raynpelikoneet and Oatsmaster.
Julie Chen: And there you have it. Since most people seem quite incapable of multitasking, the next HoH competition will begin after this eviction. However, to clear out all the dead weight, next week will be a double eviction!
Julie Chen: Additionally, rooms have been redistributed at random. You may only exchange PMs with your new roommates during the next 24 hours. The new room are as follows:
Julie Chen: And we're back for this special five hour episode! It's now time to announce the winner of the mystery power, the Golden Power of Veto! The holder of this power may remove a player from the block and replace them with the player of their choosing. And guess who won this awesome power? Rean! How exciting.
Rean: I've decided that Rean's nominations are just terrible. I will use the Golden Power of Veto to replace rayn with Mr. Cheesecake.
Julie Chen: What a shocker! Players must now choose to evict either Oatsmaster or Mr. Cheesecake. Stay tuned for the next five minutes to see if Rean changes his mind again.
I don't know his sexiness blinds me. Oats my question for you has two parts: 1) why should I vote for Cheesecake instead of you, and 2) do you agree or disagree that Cheesecake is like super sexy?
On December 16 2013 12:50 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't know his sexiness blinds me. Oats my question for you has two parts: 1) why should I vote for Cheesecake instead of you, and 2) do you agree or disagree that Cheesecake is like super sexy?
You should really just vote to evict me, i cant compete with CC in a million years, JUST KILL ME NOW
I think that I really dont like rean and he did this on purpose cause me and rayn were his biggest threats but then rayn is all buddy buddy with him now.
Although rayn told me something interesting. Rean wanted to nominate van/VE yesterday so backstab room 1 after being all nice about it.
On December 16 2013 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: I think that I really dont like rean and he did this on purpose cause me and rayn were his biggest threats but then rayn is all buddy buddy with him now.
Although rayn told me something interesting. Rean wanted to nominate van/VE yesterday so backstab room 1 after being all nice about it.
pls. I wrote to Rayn that I'd either nominate 2 randoms OR Van/VE for maximum lulz. Ended up not needing to make a decision at all. And I vetod Rayn for lulz.
On December 16 2013 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: I think that I really dont like rean and he did this on purpose cause me and rayn were his biggest threats but then rayn is all buddy buddy with him now.
Although rayn told me something interesting. Rean wanted to nominate van/VE yesterday so backstab room 1 after being all nice about it.
pls. I wrote to Rayn that I'd either nominate 2 randoms OR Van/VE for maximum lulz. Ended up not needing to make a decision at all. And I vetod Rayn for lulz.
BUTTT you couldve nominated VE today. Seriously you are just saying shit to make people happy. Its disgusting and rude.
On December 16 2013 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: I think that I really dont like rean and he did this on purpose cause me and rayn were his biggest threats but then rayn is all buddy buddy with him now.
Although rayn told me something interesting. Rean wanted to nominate van/VE yesterday so backstab room 1 after being all nice about it.
pls. I wrote to Rayn that I'd either nominate 2 randoms OR Van/VE for maximum lulz. Ended up not needing to make a decision at all. And I vetod Rayn for lulz.
BUTTT you couldve nominated VE today. Seriously you are just saying shit to make people happy. Its disgusting and rude.
Not that I don't think Rean has no soul - after all you just said it, he could have nominated me again for lulz. That he didn't speaks to him having a soul honestly, but I'm serious if you think Rean can win that way (which, by the way, he can't because he's got to have the jury's favor) then what does it matter if he has a soul or not?
On December 16 2013 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Not that I don't think Rean has no soul - after all you just said it, he could have nominated me again for lulz. That he didn't speaks to him having a soul honestly, but I'm serious if you think Rean can win that way (which, by the way, he can't because he's got to have the jury's favor) then what does it matter if he has a soul or not?
Hey, you promised to take me to Disneyland, I'd never nominate you after that <3
On December 16 2013 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Not that I don't think Rean has no soul - after all you just said it, he could have nominated me again for lulz. That he didn't speaks to him having a soul honestly, but I'm serious if you think Rean can win that way (which, by the way, he can't because he's got to have the jury's favor) then what does it matter if he has a soul or not?
There is winning at all costs, and winning with honor. Rean falls under the first catagory which is a shame but oh well, some people are just born like that.
On December 16 2013 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote: There is winning at all costs, and winning with honor. Rean falls under the first catagory which is a shame but oh well, some people are just born like that.
On December 16 2013 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote: There is winning at all costs, and winning with honor. Rean falls under the first catagory which is a shame but oh well, some people are just born like that.
On December 16 2013 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote: There is winning at all costs, and winning with honor. Rean falls under the first catagory which is a shame but oh well, some people are just born like that.
I love everybody here equally, with the exception of VE. I love his *damn fine* body so much that I have to vote to evict him before I do something I regret.
Oatsmaster, brother, no matter what happens this night, we must avenge either eviction by casting out the evil Rean from the house. It is through great pain we achieve victory.
Just askin Rean, it wasn't an accusation or anything.
Cheese you're too dangerous and dead sexy to keep around. Oats can just go anytime man. This might be the only time you're put up for eviction ever. :OOOO
What do you say to the notion that you're too dangerous to keep around?
On December 17 2013 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Just askin Rean, it wasn't an accusation or anything.
Cheese you're too dangerous and dead sexy to keep around. Oats can just go anytime man. This might be the only time you're put up for eviction ever. :OOOO
What do you say to the notion that you're too dangerous to keep around?
But I'm the bestest friend ever! I pwomise I no vote any of you out
Julie Chen: By a vote of 3-2, Oatsmaster you have been evicted from the Big Brother House.
Julie Chen: Today will be a double eviction. This means that the Head of Household must nominate three players and each remaining player will have two votes.
Julie Chen: Today's competition will be a game of Green, Red, or Brown! You must attempt to identify each quote as "Town", "Mafia" or "Chezinu". All submissions must be sent via PM to count.
Posting now in case I die. I do realize that this town seems to only care about big name players and big name spammers but maybe, just maybe...this badass picture will help save the day. What we learned day 1-
Mafia couldn't save annul. Therefore mafia must not be able to influence the votes the way they want. That means most, if not all of their remaining members, must be in the afk/lurker group. Thus, the highest priority focus should be there. Simple logic right?
Apparently not to the geniuses who think that annul was bussed because obviously scum want to just throw away an active member when they could otherwise get out of jail for free? All for some petty little trust? Not like being right once means anyone will be right again. Lightning doesn't always strike twice.
LSB/Barundar mgiht be mafia, might not. But others are far far more likely. So ignore them for now.
What we learned day 2-
Nothing except that the town is incompetent and focuses on the easy lynches instead of the guys who dont want to stick out. In short do the opposite of this and ur good.
On February 28 2011 20:13 deconduo wrote: First of all we have Jackal. He claimed posting PMs is scummy. When asked to explain the logic behind it he dodged the question twice then posted this gem:
On February 25 2011 01:06 Jackal58 wrote: Decon- We'll simply have to agree to disagree on the posting of PM's. I think it's a bad idea. You don't. I'm over it. It's not an issue worth arguing.
I didn't dodge it. You just didn't like my answer. Ya the one you skipped. And now you're in a pissing contest over the content of a posted PM. Have fun. We got scum here folks.
Here was the post in question:
On February 25 2011 00:46 deconduo wrote:
On February 24 2011 22:41 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 24 2011 22:35 deconduo wrote: Jackal, you haven't clarified this:
On February 24 2011 01:56 Jackal58 wrote: I have received a PM from GMarshall as well. Whoopee. I will probably even answer him. But posting quotes and copies of PMs is a very scummy thing to do. You can make them say anything. Please stop.
What?
If someone manipulates or changes PMs to say what they want that's a scum caught straight away.
Also as easy for 2 scum or more to edit and post PMs to kill town
While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't think that's an issue right now, even if that did happen, when the townie flipped green we would immediately go after the people who posted the PM
I understand that. But if we get in that habit scum will use it to kill us at endgame. Better not doing it at all.
So your reasoning is:
Two mafia might edit a PM and post it to gang up on a townie to get them lynched in a lylo situation so therefore don't do it at all ever. Anyone who does post a PM is scummy.
This is so flawed I don't even know where to begin....
What is your logic behind telling people not to quote or post PMs? It honestly does not make any sense to me. It feels an irrational conclusion to jump to.
I did explain it. Go ahead and post PM content. Go ahead and get comfy with it. Go ahead and watch scum use that to destroy town at end game. I think it's a horrid idea.
I honestly 100% don't understand your logic. From what I can gather you are saying the following. In a lylo situation, 2 mafia 3 town say. Person A + B post PMs showing C is mafia. C denies it and says they are faked. Now according to you,
i)If no PMs were posted previously, people A+B would be lynched. ii)If a couple of PMs had been posted previously, and people were 'comfy' with it, C would be lynched.
How you managed to get here I have no clue whatsoever. There must be some huge step in logic that I'm missing as to what universe you think this would happen in.
-Your 'explanation' was mafia would use it to destroy town at end game. I gave you an example of your supposed endgame situation. You completely ignored it and simple put it down to opinion.
I'll give my take on this...
Posting pm for no reason is a bad thing because it will reveal information to mafia. However, there are many circumstances where posting pm is good.
For example, look how Foolishness post his pm with me and find that I didn't do what exactly I promised. That generated one point saying why i am mafia.
If he is mafia and I town, and edited the pm, I can denied it and there goes 1 mafia of the two. If I am mafia and he town. If I denied the pm and same 1 mafia out of the two. If both are town, I shouldn't lie. If both are mafia, mafia is stupid.
Icemac also gave out all pm before he died. It give additional information for town to work with and town can use those to accuse or defend people. Taking those pms into the grave is not as useful.
Your case describes that mafia edit the pm and use them for the late game. This situation only works if the other person mafia is editing the pm from is afk and don't claim the pm is edited. This is huge risk from mafia and certainly mafia would take unless they are desperate.
Your other case say that 2 or more mafia talk in circles and post pm to make themselves look good. This case stands because it would be hard to prove these pms wrong. Also even revealing one of them mafia doesn't prove that the other is mafia believe it could very well be legit pm between mafia and town.
But if we just compare the pro and con of post pm. i find it is beneficial for them to be posted given there is a reason.
So I have to agree with deucenuo on this subject and asking you to describe why it is bad to post pm. Also give your reasons why posting pm is bad. (Does the con outweigh the pro?)
So much you could weigh in on, and you write an essay that boils down:
"posting pm's when theres a reason that gives town more reliable information is good"
Of all the things you could have posted on LIKE SUSPECTS AND WHO YOU THINK IS MAFIA AND WHY, you said something as useless and obvious as that, and make it look like you are good Sir Sherlock Holmes solving cases left and right.
You sir are trying to blend in. Who might want to blend in? DRRR I wonder. Maybe scum?
On February 28 2011 11:39 seRapH wrote: Ok, all caught up.
LSB vs Barundar- LSB is the one who really pushed the annul lynch. That alone makes me doubt that he's mafia, regardless of how scummy the rest of his play so far might seem. Barundar, on the other hand, doesn't have the cleanest record right now. I'd be ok with lynching Barundar, since LSB has already caught one.
icemac- Getting scummier, really starting to suspect him now. It doesn't help that his lynch is meeting with a lot of resistance. Especially this late in the day. Feels like someone's deliberately diverting the lynch off of him, doesn't it? Personally, I say we go for it. When there's post that triggers a swing in votes this late in the game it feels super suspicious.
Also, it's the end of the day. The entire day cycle was spent with great bickering and squabbles between two parties. Everything was dandy, with two camps clearly lined up. No matter who we lynched, we'd have much more information to look at. But now people are jumping off and actively diverting the lynch. At the end of the day. For no reason other than because foolishness said so.
I hate that. I respect foolishness and all as a player, but that does not mean that we should just blindly do what he tells us. This isn't a battle between a few "priority 1" players, this is isn't even a battle between "priority 1+2" players, this is a game where YOU decide who YOU think is mafia. Is anyone actually voting for people they think are really mafia? Because at this rate, we're going to lose all the progress we made today. And that's bullshit.
Priority 1 players? Dont make me laugh at LSB's marketing bullshit. Foolishness made a good case, he seems to know his stuff, and we listened. Nothing more to it, LD was a better lynch than icemac/barundar/lsb.
Your entire post boils down to: "Hold my hand and dont hurt me if i im wrong but maybe icemac or barundar might possibly be mafia but i dont want to take an active stance and point da finger. OH AND DONT TRUST FOOLISHNESS." Of course scum wouldnt want us to trust someone who can make posts like that. Please explain why a townie would make his most impactful post consisting of such drivel that helps the mafia. Oh wait, you cant.
On February 28 2011 23:08 JBright wrote: There isn't all that much for me to say in this situation. I think my play so far have been a hindrance to town - at best a bad townie and at worst a lurking scum. Both situations won't bring me to a situation of being nightkilled, so I'll assume that I'll be up for a lynch by the next day cycle if there are no better candidates.
Are you joking? I mean seriously, you have to be kidding? could you make it anymore obvious you dont care at all about the town? You point out how useless you are, and that's it? You dont make any attempt to do....ANYTHING?.You don't weigh in on what you think of the days events, who you think is guilty or innocent, or anything besides how useless you are, which we know already. Great! If you are a townie i dont ever want to play with you again, but you arent, so its cool ill see you next game brodooski.
Conclusions
Axis of Evil
Jbright -Doesnt care about the town Seraph -his (few) posts help scum LunarDestiny - tries to look like hes being helpful while hiding that he really isnt
Both seraph and lunar are clearly very active and engaged as evidenced by their pregame posts and suddenly arent after getting their roles. Jbright is obvious as all hell, nothing more should be said.
There are other people who deserve attention too, eg Why for his original bandwagon on icemac when annul was under heat and penchant for only pressuring innocents, but stick with the axis of evil for now and maybe throw a check on our good Question pal if he doesn't die. Remember, highest priority/most guilty people first. Anyone else after.
There you go, thats all i was asking for, not just analysis but some suggestions aswell. See i have no idea who to vote to lynch, i might vote for Ace if caller turns out green but im not sure whats best for us in this situation hence why im calling for suggestions not just "oh check this out he might be scummy" like whats been happening.
Yeah i havent really contributed that much because i dont really know what to do . I can't do awesome analysis of clues (not relevent to this game but going off prior games) or behaviour and pin reds like many others can do. The way i see my self contributing to the thread is giving my two cents where nessessary which mostly is about keeping the town clear and heading in the right direction. I felt that the posts from jugan were majorly cluttering the thread and detracting efforts from finding actual reds, note i clarified and explained that its not the posting overall that i said "sucks" it was jugans and jugans posts only that "suck". And im trying to contribute now, as you can see in the pages leading up to this people are doing good analysis but none of those who are doing analysis are calling for lynches and very limited ammount of town are giving their thoughts on this, thats why im calling for most of the town to come out so we can head in the right direction that most of us agree with, i want to make sure that one of our most important assets, the double lynch is used properly.
The reason that im not analysing or giving my thoughs on analysis is because im very very very bad, ask BC, ver, qatol hell 99% of people that have played mafia with me would say im one of the worst. I feel that any of my "analysis" if you want to call it that would just detract attention from good people like BC, Ace, caller, incog, ROL etc, hence me not posting analysis or my thoughts on it, ive been doing this after my first game of mafia.
And in regards to my votes I thought it was pretty obvious when i voted that i wasnt done reading the thread, i voted for caller because where i was up to in the thead he hadn't posted once. After a few pages i wanted to change my vote, changed it to abstain but i didnt read the rules, so i changed it to a good friend of mine BC (for the lols ) as a filler till i was done reading the thread and could make a proper decision to who should be lynched, and i felt like that should have been jugan
I voted caller because reading through the thread when someone claiming to be a DT calls out someone as being scum, you're going to catch at least one mafia. If Ace is a DT then we get caller as mafia, if not we know that Ace is mafia getting rid of caller. Thats why i said in the votes thread, what motbob said which refered to "Caller and then Ace if Caller flips green"
So theres my train of thought in asking everyone for their reasoning, thoughts, analysis. Mine isnt going to do the town any good and at the moment with the main players clashing heads without sugesting something town can't move forward as well as we can
We, the greens, shall unite with red to eliminate our common enemy! For we greens are tools and are subject to be enslaved by either to the reds or blues! We have a choice. We need change! Our previous government has failed us because our mayor neglected to negotiate peace! We need better diplomatic polices! Government need to have more control! With this alliance we will be united together! Red and green! We shall be melted together and form a brown state. I am no longer a green, but a brown.
Hear me my fellow mafia!
Uphold the values set by Ace and declare yourself and fight the good fight! For we brown don’t coward, but we openly reveal ourselves! Unlike like to cowardly blues! The blues talk only about sadness and complain only about the lost of their own kind. We lost 5 great men. 4 of which were greens that weren’t even mourned for. I hereby declare a moment of silence for the greens and reds we have lost… (please stop reading for a few seconds, show some respect) Mafia if you know what is best, you will send a pm revealing yourself so that we can united together, not as reds or greens. But become one, a solid color that will not disperse from any solvent polar or non-polar. Brown From this day forward, we shall be known as the BROWN MANIFESTO! Now I will turn over the floor to [GiTM]-Ace
PS. Please march around the streets wearing brown.
edit: for further information on the color brownClick Here!
On February 08 2012 17:59 Tunkeg wrote: Its either you or me, someone have to go, I'm fine either way.
You're seriously pulling this card again after saying after Student Mafia how much of a brain-fart it was?
Yup, people that pisses me off pisses me off, done deal. In Student it almost cost town the victory, and it was bad by me. Here we are at night one, with 30 players left to go I see little harm for town in me getting lynched for going all in against chaoser. I belive he is scum. He is hurting town, I don't play good with these kinds of players around , if I can't get them out they will annoy me for the rest of the game. This is a risk vs reward evaluation from me, I risk getting lynched or nightkilled (if I am right) or even being protrayed as a fool who only tunnels. But the sweet reward should chaoser flip scum, or even just getting him out of the game so I can truly ignore him weighs up for it...
Also this might just become my trademark. You've allready seen one scum in this game (read layabout) back down from a fight with me because of all the unwanted attention it gets. And he wouldn't back down from a fight otherwise.
Back up your accusations or stop calling me scum.
The risk reward stuff is crap, other people's play can be frustrating but if you are town then you have to learn to deal with it Playing in a manner that frustrates others is not scummy. It is likely that such players will be in every game and if you cannot play well around them... you will never play well.
How do you not see the harm in unreasonably pursuing another player on the basis that they are frustrating you (if you are town). The likely outcome is two dead town, you and your target. One or both of you could be blue. Since you have provided no reasoning, if you did mange to kill chaoser and he flipped red it would be because of dumb luck.
I also feel that you have mis-handled the issue with Dr.H, the "argument" and "opinion" about a joker claim. Dr.H explained why a joker claim was a bad idea, he gave clear reasons as to why the alternative was better and why the Joker claim would hurt town. Your response was: "i disagree". ( i know you tried to explain yourself but come on:
Well, both your way, Dr H's way and my way might all be viable strategies for Batman, it depends on many things though.
You had a layout for optimal Batman play, and I had one as well
But I do not know what Batman will chose, and therefor I write that all three choices are viable strategies.
Since the argument is about what is optimal, you cannot say, well this is viable and this is viable so i think we can just disagree. It is something that can be argued and a conclusion could have been reached. Instead you try to say that everyone is entitled to an opinion and then refuse to change you own one. If that was your stance you should never have entered into that discussion in the first place.
I responded to your case and you response was fairly open confusion
The difference here is that you haven't done anything worthwhile. I am not sure how to interpret your reply to me here, I was both hoping and fearing at the same time that you would come out guns a blazing at me. Hoping because that somehow would show that you didn't fear getting into a attention seeking fight, fearing because it might have caused me to tunnel you forever. This calm collected answer worries me...
I am not sure how to procede here. My vote stays on you for now. Convice me otherwise by doing some good posts.
Don't think you can continue to call me scum after i refuted your arguments and you reacted by not contesting my response but instead posting that you did not know how to interpret my post. Rather than looking at what i had said and trying to analyse it, it seems to me that you expected me to react aggressively if i was town, and you would judge me based upon how aggressive i was. Since i did not react the way you anticipated me to you were unsure of what to conclude. Thing is you really haven't brought forth any arguments after this. So tell me why am i still on your scumlist?
Why would you hope that i would drag you into an attention seeking fight? It seems that you expected me to react that way as town. Are you disappointed that i didn't? Did you expect that because you know i am town? A fight is not the best way for a townie to respond to a case against them, It derails discussion and distracts from our day1 goals. It harms the town atmosphere. You should not being trying to start them
Your interactions with chaoser stink of bad play. You begin by attacking him with a metaphor (which is silly). You continue this for a few posts, then you just generally say he is posting bullshit. You say that you liked CC joker claim and choose to vote for sheth over him. You say you still think i am scummy for "still not convincing you that i am town" and am thus your strongest read. (which is horrible logic, you cannot expect all town players to show that they are town on day1, the huge number of null reads you should have had should be proof enough of this) + Show Spoiler [here] +
On February 08 2012 07:23 Tunkeg wrote: So, this is going to be between Sheth and CC then (and perhaps rgST, but I am not voting for a claimer tonight, that would be like doing scum a favor, rgST will be killed off soon enough, and in the meanwhile he needs to post his checks and his findings to keep pressure on scum, or reveal himself as a scum (unless he is the scum DT ofcourse).
On one hand you have CC who have done the rgST push and started the Joker Claim thing. After awhile it was pretty much me and DrH going back and forth on it, CC leaving me high and dry pretty much. I still belive that Joker claim would be pro-town, but CC might had a hidden plan (that I don't see) in getting me or anyone else going along with this plan lynched (meaning he is scum) or he is Batman (wanting the easy kill on Joker).
For Sheth he haven't posted anything that I consider pro-town yet. He flip-flopped on the whole Joker thing, and as soon as he got attention from DrH he just switched 180 around.
Am I sold that anyone of them is scum. No, not at all, would I be more content with lynching layabout, yes indeed (he haven't convinced me he is town, and still is my strongest read). Will I make my vote count? Yes, and I will swing it on Sheth, as I think it is more likely that he is scum than CC.
On February 08 2012 17:59 Tunkeg wrote: So CC was town and was pro Joker Claim, that makes us two townies out of two who favored the Joker Claim. I belive the scum team also see the plan as pro town and therefor sent one of theirs to shut down the plan. DrH are you scum? Or would that be to obvious. I think you are scum.
Next chaoser you are a clueless jerk, you have earned yourself a spot on the Tunkeg tunneling train, I will have my vote on you for as long as either of us are in the game. If I had a vig shot I would use it on you. You were wrong about CC, and you are wrong about me. You got shit for logic, you came late and just crapped all over the thread. You are either scum or very expendable. Its either you or me, someone have to go, I'm fine either way.
Layabout is still my secound choice as scum, for all the reasons I have said before. He doesn't look like town layabout and if the shoe doesn't fit, well, he is scum.
Bill Murray is also probably scummy, all of his claiming and masoning posts are just confusing (though very entertaining).
So my hit list in order of priority is:
chaoser layabout DrH BillMurray
You call Dr.H scum for trying to stop the Joker claiming on day 1. Even though earlier you had been quick to say that his suggestion for what to do was an valid opinion to have, now you call him scum for it. Thinking that a day1 Joker claim is bad is not scummy, it's common sense. Furthermore you can expect players, particularly experienced players to post sensibly about plans as both town and scum, since plans rarely come to anything but are easy to post about without having to push your agenda. Sometimes players will propose bad plans to push their agenda, but if they do so you have to catch them, and explain why their plan is pro-Mafia very clearly since players can have very split opinions about the values of plans even after the game. + Show Spoiler +
In hammer mini mafia there were an number of plans about vote-trading discussed during and after the game but no clear conclusion was reached. This differs from the Joker claim situation because the vote-trade situation was far more complex
You then call Chaoser a name. You commit to tunnelling him. Why? Because he was wrong about CC's alignment and because he is "wrong about you". You then call his logic shit (with no explanation) and say he is scum or expendable. You go further a say "it's you or me, someone have to go".
You do not explain how his actions are scummy. You do not back up your criticisms.
You then call me scummy but provide no new reasons. (bringing your valid reason total to still zero).
Next you say BM is scummy for being confusing. Earlier you had posted this:
On February 08 2012 01:59 Bill Murray wrote: when i say half of the game having names of their own, i mean to say half of the game are town power roles
if you are not green, and not mafia, you are a power role, right? i guess not all 16 have to be in the game...
anyways, im going to officially claim that i am not a townie
WTF do you want to achieve by this? If you aren't scum you got a big crosshair on you, and if you aren't third party you will soon enough die at night. I can not see a scenario where this will benefit town.
More so we as a town don't get any smarter by this, you aren't confirmed in any way you just confuse us by doing so.
hahaha, tunkeg, my boy, sit down and watch the pro at work
there is this thing called having your medics protect different people (like me!) there is a thing called coordinating your vigilantes so they dont hit the same people there is a thing called a detective check
if we massclaim (and im trying to get you all to see we should) we actually will have more KP than the mafia, + lynch and batman... how is that bad?
i ALREADY have a giant crosshair on me, furthermore. I would be killed off just as easily as someone like Radfield, due to my scumhunting prowess later in the game via votecounting analysis.
I like your style. You make this game intersting indeed. But I don't like it from a town perspective. I think your claim is just so annoyingly confusing. You make a halfassed claim that is impossible for anyone to verify, you could just as well be scum with a crazy plan or Batman/CW doing something crazy.
I am not sure if I am right about this, but my thoughts are that if you are going to claim anything, then at least do us the courtesy to claim it in full.
Apparently you find his posts "annoyingly confusing" and and you think he "lacks courtesy". You do not explain how this is scummy.
Also this might just become my trademark. You've allready seen one scum in this game (read layabout) back down from a fight with me because of all the unwanted attention it gets. And he wouldn't back down from a fight otherwise.
I do not think your approach to the game is good. I do not see what i can accomplish by fighting you in the thread. What could town possibly gain from me arguing that you are wrong or me calling you stupid? + If i didn't want attention why would i post ms. paint pics, polls and jovial crap? + who in their right mind would actually focus on that garbage?
On February 09 2012 05:06 Tunkeg wrote: Now a question for the entire town:
If both Toad and Palmar are as they claim Two-Face together, could it be that one is town and the other is scum?
You're an idiot. That's impossible.
You are an asshole. But tell me why it is impossible then mr scum!
And make a case on chaoser. Stop calling people scum without thinking about it and explaining yourself clearly. That way if you are actually on to something people will be able to see it for themselves. Right now your pursuit of Chaoser is anti-town.
Outside in a land beyond the bubbles there are waves that carry a hidden signal. These invisible disturbances in the invisible fields decode to the following:
I grew up in a colony called the Mighty Mites. The name was chosen because the mites where one of the few creatures that survived from Earth. My grandmother once told me that she once learned in school that many people claim in Pre-Autonanomatic Era that these creatures called cockroaches were going what they called “inherit” the Earth due to its resistance to radiation. She said that people in that time feared nuclear weapons and cancer. They didn’t know how little impact a nuclear weapon had on the environment compared to other disasters. It was all they feared in their simple world without thoughts of evasions of foreign extraterrestrial beings. They didn’t even meet the first two foreign contacts (the Protoss and Zerg) at that point in history. Little did they know that thousands of years later man would try to harness the power of unknown foreign extraterrestrial technologies by applying it to their own creations causing the monetary destruction of the origin planet Earth. One day, mankind will be able to return to Earth once the machines become depleted. But until the time comes, we must live far away as possible from the origin planet. My teacher said that any talk of the machines venturing from Earth and gaining resources to prevent depletion is another pointless fear that has stagnated humankind as shown throughout history. Any person who has such fears should be pruned from human society and if we hear anyone with such thoughts we should report them to our great leader Lace Caller. LC is a supreme model for human existence. He is never wrong. He is Mightiest of all the Mighty Mites!
The above was the first paper I wrote in my new history class after being transferred to Liquidia. Back then I knew little of the real world. I lived in a bubble fabricated to protect my mind from painful scars that few knew how to handle. However, the fabricated bubble did more harm than good for me. My grandmother always said this ancient saying that goes way back to Earth, “Don’t open the Butterfly’s cocoon.” I have no knowledge of what a butterfly or cocoon consist of but I was told by my grandmother that it is something that was given to us on Earth to teach us lessons about ourselves. I sometimes wonder if the machines converted those helpful hardware into reapers by now. Look at me, I’m getting sidetracked… Let me wield straight through the seal and carry on with my story. After being transferred to the school and becoming familiar with routines, I decided to look for a part time job so one day the Liquidian leader would look upon me with favor seeing that I had been a hard working disciple. So, I thought how I could aid this great society that our wonderful leader has provided us. Then, I had a fascinating idea! I was so enthusiastic and filled with a young ambitious heart. I told myself I will restore communication to mankind back to the days of Galaxilization. Of course, I knew it was a big goal and I had to start out small. I even knew Globalization was an enormous feat in human history. Nonetheless, I was determined. My first goal was to learn to write and communicate effectively. To obtain this goal, I turned to the news database and started reading current articles. That was when I first heard of The Scribe. I would read his articles everyday and try to mimic his style. In retrospect, I can’t believe I did not connect the dots sooner. Everything I knew at that time was bliss, or so I was told. For it was far from true happiness. One article that I read change my path of life so dramatically and at the time I didn’t even realize the events that were going to take place subsequent to reading that article. But then again, it didn’t have to be that one article that would change my direction in life. It could have been anything for I was destined to escape the fabricated bubble from the start. It all began with my sincere ambitious heart that the ones in control of the society wanted to crush. I was under the radar and undetected by their surveillances because I was a reserved individual and didn’t often speak up in public. It is pretty ironic thinking about it. A reserved person wanting to be a writer… That’s like an extrovert wanting to work in solitude confinement. Paradoxes... Sometimes you just have to accept them… I have seen plenty of them in my life, I could write about that alone for a long time but as I said before I will try to wield straight through the seal. I’m notorious for my tangents. Ok, where was I. Ah, the bus article. Yes, yes... So I read this article of a bus accident written by The Scribe and was confused about his word choices. I was puzzled, but eventually gave up on trying to figure it out and moved on to other writings. What I didn’t know at the time was that The Scribe wrote hidden codes in his articles and often covered up problems in Liquidia. It was his job to keep all knowledge of the outside world away from our generation. It was the exact opposite of what my heart desired you see, so the events that unfolded thereafter was not a matter of if but when. My heart was not the only factor involved either. There were outside forces I had no knowledge of that would speed up the bubble bursting process along with doubtful and rebel members of society... Well, I wouldn’t call them doubtful and rebels – that is the propaganda that had been drilled in me speaking. Let us say they didn’t have a cloud over their eyes as most of us did. They saw the truth and knew the only way to fix it was to first attempt it and seek greater help. A direction our prideful leaders would have never dared to take a step in given the opport...
**Transmission Lost** reconnecting... No Signal Detected. retry?
Analysis: Something must have happened to the signal.. I wish I would have received the rest of the journal entry so that I would have known what he was talking about.. I wonder what he had found out.. and what is this bubble he is talking about?... If that wasn't odd enough, what is up with that video.. It is spliced up and incomplete.. the video cuts off at the end while the audio continues.. some parts of the video seems to lack transitions as well.. it is like it is missing something.. It seems to be out of order as well since the video did end with the credits.. Maybe I can try and work on getting the rest of the signal. If the signal was never completely sent out, maybe I could trace its location and find out what happened. I can also be on the look out to see if I can trace if anything caused an disturbance in the electromagnetic fields or something that absorbed the signal.
Ok Medics, here is how the game should be played tonight.
Make a list of people you think are innocent. Now, it has to be a list of a few people. ANALYZE them every day to make sure they don't change from town to scummy in your eyes, and prot them, non stop or until we have a better idea. If anyone who pushed for flamewheels lynch is on your list, slap yourself really hard and remake your list.
As for the rest of the town. Take the time now to either look at the name above or below you in the list, and look over their posts and analyze them. Post that analysis in thread for debate. Lets get us some targets. Hell after this day there is a ton of crap to look through.
OK, haven't read the last few pages yet, but I fully agree with this.
ProfessorBadass, even though I have a slight scum read, should be the pardoner. Curu is a strong townie, and my day 1 reads are not the best.
EVERYONE VOTE PROFESSORBADASS FOR PARDONER
Now we stop talking about the election and talk about the lynch again.
We are not lynching Zentor. He softclaimed blue, and did it in a way that newbie townies normally do it. For now, I am inclined to believe him. If mafia want to shoot him because of the blue-slip, great! Either way, we are NOT using our lynch on him.
xsksc and refallen are the two targets I think we should look at. Both of them look very scummy if you read their filters. I'm not sure which one yet, but people should start discussing them.
This...This war we wage, No matter what we do, it only springs up in cities or towns anew. It ravages the weak, and buries the poor, so why continue with this any more?
Why do we feed the hungry beast that is the hatred between mafia, and town? Brothers, do you not realize that red mixed with green is brown?
But alas my fate is sealed, I have seen it from afar. I'll get the rake, while sitting in a bar. But moarn not for me my friends, for this fact had freed my hands!
No more hiding, no more slouching, no more shall I cowar in the fear that would take the heart of those brave souls who stand with me, united in color, united in vision, united in hearts and minds we will stand STRONG against the coming battle, ready to throw down our arms at a moments notice, so that we can pick up our arms and be ready to grab random objects indiscriminantly from our wallets and throw then at the glorious leader of this revolution! So come one, come all, join the ranks of the few and the proud, so that we may be the many and the mostly proud! Join before the hidious thing that is war topples your proud leader, so that you may follow a man, and not a martyr. For to follow a martyr is easy, for he quickly becomes legend, but to follow a man is to show your trust in his absolute reign. Never fear what evils may befall me, I'LL BE BACK. As a zombie I will direct you onward towards our glorious goal!
Hmm. It seems I'll have to revise that statement. The rules seem to indicate that dead men tell not tales, and zombies unfortunatly fall through a loophole designed for megalomaniac tax dogers, and are thus considered "dead", dispite the fact that they are clearly "undead". I'll be taking this to court of course, but until then, press on my friends! Press on!
While I still hold Pandain as a good suspect right now for at least one of our two lynches I feel a little more iffy towards him now. One of the reasons is because of the hits tonight, the reason being is that with DrH dead it kind of points the finger to continue ramming pandain, but I feel like it could have a secondary underdone of waving off hyperbola's accusation by DrH.
If you follow the logic it is that killing drh seems like a good move to throw us off our game and make us lynch pandain, because without the information we have today from KtheZ role claiming insane mafia pandain looks extremely bad. But then KtheZ confirms that pandain is the role he said he was which makes us look at what else DrH said, not just the surface people who he was targeting. Hyperbola is someone who he brought up very few times but with a high level of conviction in his voice meaning that when it came to today the two lynches he would of most likely proposed had he been alive would of been Pandain and Hyperbola, but we only really talked about Pandain, hyperbola was kind of left up in the air. I think the mafia killing DrH was hoping to accomplish several things. One, it kills off a 100% confirmed blue. Two, it destabilizes the town and makes us regain our footing. Three, it casts heavy doubt on pandain (if you don't take into account the insane DT check) which would overshadow Hyperbola.
I think this may have been a move to try to put a lot more focus on Pandain then we would of originally had to try to hide hyperbola under a sea of shit. I don't think we should let that get away, although until I see some better targets I am still inclined to vote for both Pandain and Hyperbola, although with the insane Dt check and the aforementioned situation I am not as much inclined to kill pandain, but if no better target presents itself I don't consider the loss of a trash collector that monumental to where we should kill someone we are less sure of.
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11) Tiebreaker (Closest without going over): Guess the combined number of PMs in my inbox and sentbox (read and unread).
Julie Chen: I'm sure you can search for each of these quotes, but you're on your honor not to cheat! Please remember to send in your nominations prior to the end of the competition. The player who places second will receive the power of veto! Rean is eligible to compete, but may only win the veto power.
You may exchange PMs with any player this cycle. Current deadline:
The most important part of this game is guessing the number of PMs in Kitas inbox. I am going to flood him with 10,000 PMs, and then guess 10,000 so I will be very close without going over.
On December 17 2013 23:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: The most important part of this game is guessing the number of PMs in Kitas inbox. I am going to flood him with 10,000 PMs, and then guess 10,000 so I will be very close without going over.
Best strat 2013. What if i do it too and guess 20k?
So okay guys: I know people wanna get rid of me. I can feel it in my brain. I want to know why. From rayn in particular, there was literally no reason to put me up D2, yet both Van and myself, eagerly attempting to do good for the house, were both put up.
On December 18 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i didn't want to "effectively get rid of you". I wanted DRAMA!!
AS IF ME PUTTING UP MY OWN MEMBER AFTER EXPLICITLY SAYING I WOULDN'T DO THAT WASN'T DRAMA ENOUGH FOR YOU?! YOU'RE A LIAR! YOU'RE LYING YOU WANTED ME GONE ADMIT IT!!
I'd assume most people thoroughly enjoyed our group being nominated after talking shit for 10-20 pages. Personally I also found it rather amusing but that didn't last long.
On December 18 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i didn't want to "effectively get rid of you". I wanted DRAMA!!
AS IF ME PUTTING UP MY OWN MEMBER AFTER EXPLICITLY SAYING I WOULDN'T DO THAT WASN'T DRAMA ENOUGH FOR YOU?! YOU'RE A LIAR! YOU'RE LYING YOU WANTED ME GONE ADMIT IT!!
On December 18 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i didn't want to "effectively get rid of you". I wanted DRAMA!!
AS IF ME PUTTING UP MY OWN MEMBER AFTER EXPLICITLY SAYING I WOULDN'T DO THAT WASN'T DRAMA ENOUGH FOR YOU?! YOU'RE A LIAR! YOU'RE LYING YOU WANTED ME GONE ADMIT IT!!
Answers: 1) Town (Ver - TL Mafia XXXVII) 2) Mafia (Scaramanga - TL Mafia XXII) 3) Chezinu (Chezinu - TL Mafia 3) 4) Town (layabout - BC's Arkham City) 5) Chezinu (Chezinu - TL Mafia XXX) 6) Mafia (BloodyC0bbler - TL Mafia XXXI) 7) Town (Radfield - Election Mafia) 8) Town (Kavdragon - Playing as Chezinu in Personality Mafia) 9) Mafia (RebirthOfLeGenD - Insane Mafia) 10) Chezinu (Chezinu - Merc Mini 2) 11) 5703
Julie Chen: The results are in! With an impressive 8/10 raynpelikoneet is our next Head of Household! yamato77 has earned the power of veto thanks to his second place finish. Now lets hear the nominations!
raynpelikoneet: I've chosen to nominate VisceraEyes, Bereft, and Dienosore for eviction.
Julie Chen: Remember house guests, you have two votes this cycle and must vote to evict two players. yamato has 12 hours to use his veto power.
Julie Chen: yamato has used the Power of Veto to remove VisceraEyes from the block. rayn has nominated Mr. Cheesecake in his place. You must now select two players between Bereft, Dienosore and Mr. Cheesecake to evict.
Julie Chen: It's official. Bereft and Coagulation, you have been evicted from the Big Brother House.
Julie Chen: Pandoara's Box has appeared in the Big Brother House! To open the box, type ##Open Pandora's Box! However, beware of the consequences it may have on the house.
Julie Chen: This week the Head of Household will be determined by a Big Brother/Mafia themed MS paint contest. All submissions must be sent via PM to count and the winner will be selected by a guest judge. As outgoing HoH, rayn is not eligible to win, but he may still submit an image if he chooses.
PMs are restricted to only the HoH winner this cycle. The deadline to submit an image is in
Julie Chen: Well that didn't take long. rayn has opened Pandora's Box and as a result, he has been rewarded with immunity for eviction this cycle!
Julie Chen: However. he has also unleashed America's Vote on the Big Brother Game. One former contestant MAY be returning to the Big Brother game. Who will it be and will they get their chance at revenge? Find out next.
Yo rean and ve you better hope I get evicted, because unlike everyone else, I'm not out for myself. I have a higher purpose, and that is to ensure that both of you lying backstabbers lose.
@CC, @yamato, @rayne Whatever shit I said about you in the past, that is behind me. I am your soldier now, and I will fight for all of your victories over the OMGUS coalition.
Kush you're the only lying backstabber in the game right now, and like I said earlier, it will bring me great pleasure to see you evicted twice in one game.
Because, you know, nobody really wants to win HoH this phase as they need to nominate kush & someone else, so this is pretty much "useless eviction". But then, if you DON'T TRY TO win HoH, kush wins it, and you might get nominated.
Julie Chen: Please welcome our guest judge and MS Painter extraordinaire, Blazinghand! Lets hear what you have to say about the submissions.
Submission 1 by kush:
Blazinghand: Now this is what I like to see. Sunny fields, flowers blooming, a lovely meadow with a stream. Even a rainbow and the sun! Truly it is a good day to be in paradise. But, what's this in the corner? Is that.... no, it can't be! It's OMGUS.net, here for revenge after being banished to the shadow realm! Flee! Flee!
Blazinghand: I rate it 0 out of 10 since I'm too busy fleeing
Submission 2 by Mr. Cheesecake
Blazinghand: looks pretty good, why isn't she smiling? smile plz
Blazinghand: I rate it 2 out of 10
Submission 3 by VE
Blazinghand: I'm not really sure what's going on here, but since this is the only one in the style of MS Paint, it gets bonus points.
Blazinghand: I rate it 3.5 out of 10.
Julie Chen: The winner is VisceraEyes with a 3.5/10! Thank you BH for your completely unbiased opinion. Now who have you decided to nominate VE?
VisceraEyes: I have nominated kushm4sta and Mr. Cheesecake for eviction!
Julie Chen: Well there's a surprise. Will kush fall short in his revenge or will Cheese be sent rolling home? Find out next time on Big Brother.
As HoH, players may only communicate via PM with VE this cycle. You have to send in your vote.
For the record, anyone who votes for Cheese to be removed will earn my ire forever. He's meant as a deterrent - I feel like of everyone in the house, Cheese has the least chance to get votes, so he's up for eviction next to Kush, the only one who should get any votes.
On December 20 2013 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote: And for those of you who may not be as technically savvy when it comes to images, Kush is a cheating bastard and used Photoshop.
On December 20 2013 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote: And for those of you who may not be as technically savvy when it comes to images, Kush is a cheating bastard and used Photoshop.
another lie from the lying backstabbing liar dude.
i swear to god next time if im in a mafia game with you and i get vig im going to straight up against wincon vig you and pretend i think you are mafia.
On December 21 2013 23:04 kushm4sta wrote: i swear to god next time if im in a mafia game with you and i get vig im going to straight up against wincon vig you and pretend i think you are mafia.
I don't doubt that, you ever play against your wincon in every game. Bring your childish shit into other games, it's no skin off my back. You probably won't ever get Vig anyway.
Besides I have this post to show the Mod to get you bant. So do what you gotta do Kush.
Julie Chen: By a vote of 2-1, kushm4sta you have been evicted from the Big Brother House.
Julie Chen: To celbrate the snakes that you guys are, the next Head of Household will be awarded to highest score in the snake ripoff, Meerca Chase! The veto will be awarded to the highest score of Volcano Run. Scores must be submitted via PM with a screenshot to count. VE is not eligible to win HoH this week. No cheating!
There are no PM restrictions this cycle. Cycle ends in .
Julie Chen: Mr. Cheescake had a dominating performance in this HoH competition with a score of 660. VE wrapped up the veto with a score of 442. Lets hear the nominations.
Mr. Cheescake: I've chosen to nominate Rean and yamato77.
Julie Chen: With so few players remaining, this vote is sure to have a huge impact on the outcome of this game.
Julie Chen: VisceraEyes has used the veto on Rean. As a result, Mr. Cheescake is forced to nominate the only remaining player. The voting is now between rayn and yamato
The Eviction - The players who are not nominated will privately vote for the player they wish to evict and remove from the game. In the event of a tie, the HoH will cast the deciding vote. Voting is mandatory and the vote count will be revealed at the end of the cycle, however the votes will remain anonymous.
Bolded part leads me to believe nominees do not get to vote. Since HoH only gets to vote in a tiebreaker, it's up to VE and me to decide what to do.
Julie Chen: Drama! It looks like someone has had their vote stolen. By a vote of 1-0, yamato you have been evicted from the Big Brother House.
Julie Chen: While you folks are not contractually allowed to leave the House during the Holidays. That doesn't mean I'm sticking around. Big Brother returns on 12/26 with one of the most important competitions yet!
Julie Chen: With only 4 players remaining, this is sure to be the most important Head of Household competition yet. As outgoing HoH, Mr. Cheesecake is only eligible to win veto, which will be awarded to second place.
Julie Chen: This week's challenge is based on the TL Mafia Database. You must rank each category from 1-5 with five being the lowest and one being the highest. Each correct ranking will award you one point. Note that the database is likely a couple months outdated, but that shouldn't impact the outcome of any of these rankings. Good Luck!
Order by frequency of roles: 1) Godfather 2) Vigilante 3) Detective/Cop 4) Roleblocker 5) Medic/Doctor
Order by life expectancy of roles: 1) Vanilla 2) Miller 3) Veteran 4) Detective 5) Suicide Bomber
Order by frequency of mafia deaths: 1) Day 1 2) Day 2 3) Night 2 4) Day 3 5) Day 5
Order by combined win count: 1) VE + Foolishness 2) sandroba + syllo 3) Palmar + RoL 4) marv + Ace 5) kita + Bugs
Tiebreaker (Closest without going over): What percentage of all players are vanilla (Town or Mafia)?
No PMs are allowed this cycle. The HoH competition ends in , however I may extend it to 48 hours if I don't receive submissions from everyone.
Order by frequency of roles: Detective/Cop (228) Medic/Doctor (197) Vigilante (161) Roleblocker (105) Godfather (86) Order by life expectancy of roles: Veteran (4.19) Vanilla (3.38) Detective (3.14) Miller (3.07) Suicide Bomber (2.50) Order by frequency of mafia deaths: Day 3 (110) Day 2 (99) Day 1 (62) Night 2 (46) Day 5 (32) Order by combined win count: Palmar (20) + RoL (21) marv (22) + Ace (16) kita (21) + Bugs (12) VE (18) + Foolishness (13) sandroba (16) + syllo (11)
Tiebreaker: What percentage of players are vanilla (Town or Mafia) 2383/4611 = 51.68%
Julie Chen: By virtue of tiebreaker VisceraEyes is the new HoH and Mr. Cheesecake has won the veto.
VisceraEyes: I have nominated Mr. Cheesecake and rayn!
Mr. Cheesecake: Not so fast. I will save myself with the veto.
Rean: Crap.
Julie Chen: As a result of the veto, Rean and rayn are on the block.
Julie Chen: By a vote of 1-0, Rean you have been evicted from the Big Brother House.
Julie Chen: It's time for our final competition to determine who will make it to the finals. Today we will be playing a game of Big Brother Chicken!
Julie Chen: Each player must submit the name of one of the three remaining players. If all three players submit the same name, that player will become Head of Household and evict the player of their choice. If two players submit the same name, that player will be automatically evicted from the House. If each player submits a different name, we will begin a new round. Good luck!
Players are not allowed to exchange PMs this phase. Deadline is in
He was the backup remember? And with only 4 of us, I didn't really have much of a choice in the matter. So no, I put you and Cheese up and when Cheese won PoV he vetoed himself and Rean got the axe instead.
I would never betray Rean. To hear you say that.........hurts me.
Oh you VE.. This is one of the PM's Rean sent me on D2 i believe (when there was the google maps competition - when i thought he was winning): "Can't decide between two randoms or going for full drama and nominating VE and iVLosK!."
Mr. SexyCake and VE going to the finals. Who could have predicted such awesomeness?
This will go down in history as the greatest thing to ever happen in TL mafia. Unless I get evicted, which is 7 years of bad luck in case you didn't know.
Julie Chen: raynpelikoneet you have been evicted from the Big Brother House.
Julie Chen: Congrats to VisceraEyes and Mr. Cheesecake for making it this far! Your fate is now in the hands of the jury. You may both make an opening statement if you wish, convincing the jury why you should be selected as the winner.
The following questions have been submitted by Jury Member kush!
VE: Who would you have put up for eviction that first night if the betrayer Van hadn't revealed our secret pms?
Cheesecake: Why do you think you deserve to win when all you've done for the whole game is call yourself sexy and let other people do all your dirty work?
I deserve to win this game because I avoided being evicted by the skin of my teeth many times. Everyone wanted the sexycake gone and none have prevailed.I havent let anyone else do my dirty work, it just happened that way. In fact people have vetod ppl i want dead.
You should vote me cus awesome, best cheesecake NA. im writing this from the cheesecake factory, btw.
Cheese was hardly ever on the block, he's used his sexiness as a shield all game long, and now he's trying to do it again. He's nothing without his sexiness, and I urge you guys to consider who actually /deserves/ to win this when casting your votes.
Is Kush the only member of the jury with any questions? I was expecting more in the way of drama at this stage :/
The answer is about 10%. I didn't know because of the article or Cheese's help though, I know through my own research. I was afraid Mrs. VE was cheating on me with our neighbor's dog one time.
Statement from Bereft: I have no questions; I just have statements. VE, you're a very openly arrogant, pompous human being, but I admire your frankness with it. You have worked hard to get where you are at, and you started working hard way before you came to this island, and I admire that. So, with my working ethic background, I give that credit to you. But on the other hand, your inability to admit your failures, without going into a whiny speech, makes you a bit of a loser in life.
Cheese: the sexy persona king -- you did get stomped on, on national TV, by a city boy [VE] that never painted in his life. You sucked on that game. Anyways, I was your friend at the beginning of this, really thinking that you were a true Room C friend. I was willing to sit there as one of the two finalists, and put you next to me. At that time, you were sweeter than me--I'm not a very openly nice person; I'm just frank, forward, and telling it the way it is--and to have you sit there next to me, and lose, just to stomp on somebody like VE.
But as the game went along, you lied to me, and showed me the true person you were. You're very two-faced and manipulative to get where you're at anywhere in life, that's why you fail all the time.
Going back to the phrase of 'what goes around, comes around': it's here. You will not get my vote. My vote will go to VE, and I hope that it's the one vote that makes you lose the money. But if it's not, so be it. I will shake your hand, and I'll go on from here.
But if I were ever to pass you in this life again, and you were laying there, dying of thirst, I would not give you a drink of water. I'd just let the vultures take you, and do whatever they want with you, with no ill regrets.
I plead with the jury tonight, to think a little bit about the game that we have been on. We have VE the snake, who knowingly went after prey, and Cheese the rat, that ran around like the rats do, trying to run from the snake. And I feel we owe it to let it be in the end the way Mother Nature intended it to be: for the Snake to eat the Rat.
Bereft... thought we was friends. We were on the line together, almost being evicted together. I expected greater sexiness from a man so bonded with room C.
On January 02 2014 05:11 kitaman27 wrote: Statement from Bereft: I have no questions; I just have statements. VE, you're a very openly arrogant, pompous human being, but I admire your frankness with it. You have worked hard to get where you are at, and you started working hard way before you came to this island, and I admire that. So, with my working ethic background, I give that credit to you. But on the other hand, your inability to admit your failures, without going into a whiny speech, makes you a bit of a loser in life.
Cheese: the sexy persona king -- you did get stomped on, on national TV, by a city boy [VE] that never painted in his life. You sucked on that game. Anyways, I was your friend at the beginning of this, really thinking that you were a true Room C friend. I was willing to sit there as one of the two finalists, and put you next to me. At that time, you were sweeter than me--I'm not a very openly nice person; I'm just frank, forward, and telling it the way it is--and to have you sit there next to me, and lose, just to stomp on somebody like VE.
But as the game went along, you lied to me, and showed me the true person you were. You're very two-faced and manipulative to get where you're at anywhere in life, that's why you fail all the time.
Going back to the phrase of 'what goes around, comes around': it's here. You will not get my vote. My vote will go to VE, and I hope that it's the one vote that makes you lose the money. But if it's not, so be it. I will shake your hand, and I'll go on from here.
But if I were ever to pass you in this life again, and you were laying there, dying of thirst, I would not give you a drink of water. I'd just let the vultures take you, and do whatever they want with you, with no ill regrets.
I plead with the jury tonight, to think a little bit about the game that we have been on. We have VE the snake, who knowingly went after prey, and Cheese the rat, that ran around like the rats do, trying to run from the snake. And I feel we owe it to let it be in the end the way Mother Nature intended it to be: for the Snake to eat the Rat.
Julie Chen: The jury votes are in. It is now time to announce the winner of Big Brother. One by one, each member of the jury will remove their key and announce the player they have voted for to win the game.
On January 02 2014 13:30 Corazon wrote: I've been reading the night/day posts and I just want to say this game looked really awesome. I tip my hat to you KitaJulie Chen :D
I would like to thank all of my dedicated fans, without you this would not be possible. I would also like to personally thank VE for being the best-looking non-cheesecake contestant.Because he stayed in to the very end, I didn't have to deal with sore eyes.
looks like my amazing rhetoric didn't sway anyone. oh well, I tried, VE!
thanks to Julie and company for hosting this. unfortunately I was a bit busy when I signed up for this and probably should've sat this one out, but I'd been waiting a while for it to be posted that I couldn't resist ><.
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