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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#1321
JarJar i actually am pretty sure i get the logic behind the second quote. I'd still like vayne to answer it.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#1322
no, it is because rayn and kush claim to be able to read me. I welcome being lynched just so that they know they can't
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#1323
On December 12 2013 05:57 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least Vayne was able to say he thinks me and kush are scum.
Spag didn't get that far with ~100 posts.
Yeah, after Vayne was close to getting lynched, he dedided to start playing the game. Even though he told us he wasn't gonna do anything else besides try to get slam lynched.

Actually he didn't really start playing rofl.
He threw a personal attack on me and idk what to kush.

Yeah, no clue why he chose you and kush and not me when all 3 of us pointed out his contradiction. Kush hadn't even voted for him yet.

I am pretty sure why he chose me, as either alignment. Because he is either frustrated with me or if he's scum he has to. kush probably because usually Vayne goes with "the first guy who accuses me with nonsense is scum" as town. So again, either town or mimicing his town play. Nothing alignment indicative. I usually leave Vayne be for D1 as it's a crapshoot because you can't really tell his alignment on D1..

yes/no question. Do you think you can confidently read VA before deadline D2?

yes
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#1324
On December 12 2013 05:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
no, it is because rayn and kush claim to be able to read me. I welcome being lynched just so that they know they can't

I have never claimed to be able to read you on D1, and i am not doing it now either.
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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
December 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#1325
On December 12 2013 03:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Also, I think this is a slip:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.

That's actually quite an interesting comment Vayne.
What you very well know is that even if Slam doesn't get lynched he will most likely get shot on N1. Why would you not help get rid of him as scum, regardless of his alignment?


On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.


I've already pretty much answered all of this

In this game the thread sentiment actually suggests vigi's WILL shoot useless people. Let's consider a scenario where you are scum.

If Slam is scum you:
1) can reasonably assume a vigi will shoot him on N1 anyways so
2) when you lynch him instead you gain towncredit
3) even if you don't succeed, you gain town credit when he flips red
4) you don't need to contribute anything useful

If Slam is town you:
1) can't be held responsible for anything scummy because it's a pro-town thing to suggest a policy lynch on him anyways
2) you don't need to contribute anything useful

So, why again is it unreasonable to assume you would vouch for his lynch as mafia?


because I would never, ever help town get rid of somebody so detrimental to town. He adds another scumplayer to my team, why would I want to get rid of him ever? I could just sheep you on spag or something dumb like that. I know exactly what it looks like.



Then when rayn calls him out about it, he says:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 02:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.

That's actually quite an interesting comment Vayne.
What you very well know is that even if Slam doesn't get lynched he will most likely get shot on N1. Why would you not help get rid of him as scum, regardless of his alignment?


On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.


I've already pretty much answered all of this

In this game the thread sentiment actually suggests vigi's WILL shoot useless people. Let's consider a scenario where you are scum.

If Slam is scum you:
1) can reasonably assume a vigi will shoot him on N1 anyways so
2) when you lynch him instead you gain towncredit
3) even if you don't succeed, you gain town credit when he flips red
4) you don't need to contribute anything useful

If Slam is town you:
1) can't be held responsible for anything scummy because it's a pro-town thing to suggest a policy lynch on him anyways
2) you don't need to contribute anything useful

So, why again is it unreasonable to assume you would vouch for his lynch as mafia?


because I would never, ever help town get rid of somebody so detrimental to town. He adds another scumplayer to my team, why would I want to get rid of him ever? I could just sheep you on spag or something dumb like that. I know exactly what it looks like.

Fair enough, just wanted to be sure what you meant.
Are you suggesting Spaghetticus is town?


Yea he was one of the first to want to lynch Slam so I have him as town until further notice.


A few moments earlier when kush asked him what he thought of spag and cora, he refused to answer. Why not say you have a townread on someone that is picking up votes? It only became something he was willing to discuss to cover up his slip.


and yes I realize that this likely makes spag town.

And the last part of the Vayne Case. How does he know that scum could just sheep the Spag vote w/o knowing what spags alignment is?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 20:59 GMT
#1326
and i can easily explain what you just quoted, another stupid non-contradiction. Nobody in their right mind is gonna bus day 1 unless you are grack/mocsta and legit hate playing with eachother. He was bussed in portal on like what? day 4/5?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1327
i failed to get alakaslam lynched so whatever. didn't do my job as town this game
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1328
BREAKING NEWS

Pandain is being replaced.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1329
On December 12 2013 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:52 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:49 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him.

The problem is not the voters. I have the same problem (well not really with purple, as he basically chose between spag/vayne)...

It's that Spag is so fucking scummy and the evidence is far better than on vayne.


I'm not still sure why VA is #2 in votes. Apparently he contradicted himself, but why is he scum just for that? It's not like he needed to talk about how he'd love to NK / lynch Alakaslam.

Yes he needed, did you read?
I confronted him about his thoughts on lynching Slam.


I read through pretty fast. Gonna reread that portion.

ALso this:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is another one.
On December 11 2013 13:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
I hope he flips town so I am actually justified in saying that he is hindering the game. If he's scum he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Read that portal game by greymist if you want to see how hard it is to lynch this guy as scum. His entire team bussed him and he still barely got lynched. nuff said.

On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.

... i really don't get it.. i really don't...



................. Okay.

It seems like rayn forced VA into this situation where he started to contradict himself. I take it back that it would be unnecessary for him to post this stuff. Clearly there's something wrong with his mindset.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1330
We bussed in Golden sun lol
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1331
On December 12 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
and i can easily explain what you just quoted, another stupid non-contradiction. Nobody in their right mind is gonna bus day 1 unless you are grack/mocsta and legit hate playing with eachother. He was bussed in portal on like what? day 4/5?

right.. i figured ^^
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 20:35:19
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1332
I NIGHT



The other party guests had voted Spaghetticus to fetch the beer on account of him being the smelliest one in the room. Not because he was a Zerg, or anything - everyone knows town is actually worse than a random number generator at lynching scum. No, it was because he smelled bad and knew where they kept the beer on the Titanic.

Back when Sentinel and his buddies ran the ship, they loved to get piss-drunk to see where they would end up when they woke the next morning. Of course, he and his... relatives, I guess? - all of them had the same name, at any rate - anyways, they - had gone and started a global war. So the family of Aquanim now continued the tradition of binge drinking, with each Aquanim more inebriated than his father.

But duty calls, and Spaghetticus first made a stop to the bathroom.

He went into the bathroom to take a piss. While his stream tricked down, he noticed a shadow looming in front of him. He turned his head and saw a redneck look down, nod his head appreciatively, then look him in the eye.

"Mighty fine set you got there, stranger."

"Thanks... but uh, could you turn around for a bit? People lookin' at me like that gives me the jitters."

"'Fraid I can't do that, son."

Before he could say another word, a Zergling sank its teeth into Spaghetticus's arm.

"Too bad it's all goin' to waste. Finish him, boy."

Spaghetticus the Civilian has died!

It is now Night 1. Send night actions to [UoN]Sentinel and Aquanim.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1333
On December 12 2013 05:54 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 05:53 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:51 Corazon wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:43 Corazon wrote:
Xatalos do you believe in any of the accusations you make?


?

Do you have some sort of win-con to call everyone scum?


Do you have some sort of a win-con to call scum everyone who call you scum?

Well seeing as everyone has taken a shot at me this game, I don't think I have a choice.

Did I?

This pattern keeps repeating, maybe I did.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 11 2013 21:01 GMT
#1334
Noooooooooooo. Pandainnnnn!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:01 GMT
#1335
On the other hand... I'm still not sure why he's scum for these.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 11 2013 21:03 GMT
#1336
I so failed I didn't even know how I failed.


So I failed.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 11 2013 21:04 GMT
#1337
Hmmm.

That was a mess of a deadline. I'm sure the vote swings tell something though (unlike with a Alakaslam lynch).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 21:05 GMT
#1338
the irony of the 2 people most wanting to kill alakaslam being up for lynch.

[image loading]
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 21:05 GMT
#1339
im going to start playing like him, seems to be very effective
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 21:05 GMT
#1340
YOU EAT ICE FUCK ICE LOL@2222? CHEZINUE? HURDPRUp?
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