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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 04:41 GMT
#3221
in any case, grack, just ignore everyone else but me, since i'm confirmed town. let's work together and pick each other's brains a bit to try to optimize our check for tonight. You can trust me, if not anyone else. How's it sound?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 04:42 GMT
#3223
On December 18 2013 13:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2013 13:36 Plutarch wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:33 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:30 Plutarch wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:27 Grackaroni wrote:
But if you really feel the need to prove yourself, tell me:
On December 18 2013 13:15 Plutarch wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah he wanted you to explain that LSB. You really shouldn't care who I check Plutarch.


I just want you to check who town requests so that you can't manipulate anything behind the scenes.

It really should not be a problem for you to just check who confirmed town blazinghand requests.

What VT would worry about me manipulating checks when I'm already set to vote you tomorrow regardless. It only matters who I check if I'm actually a cop and get confirmed by your flip.


No. I don't know what you could be planning. It is well known to good players that in a disputed claim such as this town decides the checks.

For the good of the land.

That's not the point lol. If I'm not a cop why would you care who I check. my vote is going to be on your tomorrow regardless of who I would be "checking" and then I would be proven false after your flip. That is how you slipped.


No the point is that you do what town says. I know you are a liar but the rest of the town doesn't so to prevent any manipulation or in case I am lying I want you to listen to the town.

This prevents things like saying you will check someone and then night killing that person.

But if we tell you to check Xigxag and you night kill them then that is fine. Almost like a vig shot.

"I don't want to expose myself. I am going to hope Grack isn't really a cop. If he is cop then don't lynch me because I am acting in the interest of town!"

Even after I "made up" a check on you, you think I'm afraid of making up a check on somebody else.


stop talking to him. he doesn't matter. let's work together.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 04:43 GMT
#3224
On December 18 2013 13:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Alright let's talk it out.


ok so my initial thought was checking xigxag but now i'm having second thoughts on it.

advantages:
> xigxag will not be readable at any point in this game

I like that we could use a check on him since we don't have vigis and we can't trust scum/sk to kill him

disadvantages:
> there is a non-trivial chance xigxag gets modkilled.
>the fact that he hasn't been modkilled yet is soft evidence that he is actually town;

my new position is to not check xigxag. what do you think?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 04:47 GMT
#3226
we also have a list of people alive right now, excluding me the vigi, you the cop, and plu the sk, here's who you can still check (also excluding xig for reasons stated above):

artanis
lsb
jjd
sidesprang
rayn
alakaslam


I recommend we pare this list down to 3 names, and you choose (randomly) from within those 3 so scum can't just nk the townie we check or whatever. How does that sound?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#3228
On December 18 2013 13:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:
BTW, Plu wants Grack to check Xigxag because Plu thinks Xigxag is town. Which makes it more unlikely that scum kills Grack. Plu is afraid that if Grack doesn't telegraph who he's checking, scum will kill him to prevent a red check.

Unless someone else has another idea why Plu would be so concerned about who Grack says he's checking?


I think Plu just doesn't want Grack to "waste" a check on, say, an obvtown guy like me or something. Assuming Plu is telling the truth and Grack is lying (one of them must be lying, of course), then Plu wants Grack to be forced to check whoever it is that strains Grack's lying ability the most. If Plu is lying, he's trying to act like a truth-telling Plu.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#3229
JJD, of the 6, which 3 in your opinion should be the group that Grack checks into?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 05:01 GMT
#3234
imo you should check into alaka, rayn, LSB

alaka has been kinda on xig's ass, could be playing to his fake "worship bh" persona
rayn cause he's a sly mofo and he's gotten better since the last time I caught him as scum, or is town, not sure
LSB cause people think LSB is scum and I don't, which means there's enough confusion he's worth a check

what were you thinking?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 05:01 GMT
#3235
yeah alakaslam is on my check list for sure. what about LSB?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 05:07 GMT
#3238
i like sidesprang on that list for sure actually, i can't generate a good read on him

sidesprang lsb alakaslam as the group to check into, then?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 05:13 GMT
#3240
On December 18 2013 14:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2013 14:07 Blazinghand wrote:
i like sidesprang on that list for sure actually, i can't generate a good read on him

sidesprang lsb alakaslam as the group to check into, then?

I'm fine with checking in to that group.

excellent!

Don't announce exactly which one you're checking, btw, until exactly at the deadline. This way scum can't preempt you by nking your target.

I'm not sure whether it's important you announce your check target before the flip vs after the flip since it's not like announcing it beforehand gives the scum-version of you any disadvantages. other people can weigh in on this part though
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 10:11 GMT
#3260
i'm supposed to be pretending to be asleep but DS9 is like poop tier compared to like, things that aren't DS9
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 18:58 GMT
#3280
I think what they're saying isn't that there's a 2nd cop, but that you're lying

fwiw there is a non-trivial chance there's a 2nd cop. I'd be srprised if we had 2 cops, but it's not impossible.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:05 GMT
#3289
On December 19 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 04:01 Grackaroni wrote:
if that CC was going to happen it would have happened by now. If there was a 2nd cop it should be pretty obvious.

Don't be fucking stupid. If you are lying there is no reason the real cop should claim until 1min before deadline and you know it.


the real cop should claim much, much closer to the deadline than 60 seconds.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#3294
Man I really don't know like I know I'm supposed to be that guy who catches rayn when he's scum but if rayn is scum this game he has me fooled rather admirably. The only reason I have any suspicion of him is that when rayn is town he usually projects more of his personality. I usually get a feeling his town. There are definitely times when he's town and he doesn't do that but that's the thing that had him initially on my "what's the deal with this guy" list.

Ultimately he's not doing the obvious thing like pretending to be drunk or pushing a no lynch or anything weird like that so I don't think he's a good lynch for tomorrow
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#3296
lol I take back my townread on rayn
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:08 GMT
#3297
On December 19 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like here is the deal:
Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day.
Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day.
Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario.

No chance of scum counterclaiming me tomorrow? Come on Rayn you are better than that.

If someone CC's you tomorrow we lynch them, because they have been told to claim before deadline.


wat
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:09 GMT
#3299
"i'm not stupid as scum"

"I have played like absolute crap as scum"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:11 GMT
#3304
On December 19 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 04:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like here is the deal:
Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day.
Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day.
Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario.

No chance of scum counterclaiming me tomorrow? Come on Rayn you are better than that.

If someone CC's you tomorrow we lynch them, because they have been told to claim before deadline.


wat

Because scum need 1 mislynch. If Grack is town it might actually be good to cc him tomorrow to get a lynch on Grack, then get a lynch on SK.


Oh, so you're saying we could reasonably expect a cop claim from a scum player, or an SK player, so we want to have them claim before the deadline rather than after, so that there is a risk of being proven wrong by the other faction's KP.

I like that
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:32 GMT
#3309
oh shoot did grack actually claim scum? i missed it
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
December 18 2013 19:39 GMT
#3312
so he didn't literally claim scum
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