• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:34
CEST 17:34
KST 00:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent9Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues18LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris75
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group B [ASL20] Ro16 Group A BWCL Season 63 Announcement [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1043 users

II Titanic Mini Mafia - Page 6

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 10 Next All
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 04:41 GMT
#3221
in any case, grack, just ignore everyone else but me, since i'm confirmed town. let's work together and pick each other's brains a bit to try to optimize our check for tonight. You can trust me, if not anyone else. How's it sound?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 04:42 GMT
#3223
On December 18 2013 13:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2013 13:36 Plutarch wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:33 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:30 Plutarch wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:27 Grackaroni wrote:
But if you really feel the need to prove yourself, tell me:
On December 18 2013 13:15 Plutarch wrote:
On December 18 2013 13:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah he wanted you to explain that LSB. You really shouldn't care who I check Plutarch.


I just want you to check who town requests so that you can't manipulate anything behind the scenes.

It really should not be a problem for you to just check who confirmed town blazinghand requests.

What VT would worry about me manipulating checks when I'm already set to vote you tomorrow regardless. It only matters who I check if I'm actually a cop and get confirmed by your flip.


No. I don't know what you could be planning. It is well known to good players that in a disputed claim such as this town decides the checks.

For the good of the land.

That's not the point lol. If I'm not a cop why would you care who I check. my vote is going to be on your tomorrow regardless of who I would be "checking" and then I would be proven false after your flip. That is how you slipped.


No the point is that you do what town says. I know you are a liar but the rest of the town doesn't so to prevent any manipulation or in case I am lying I want you to listen to the town.

This prevents things like saying you will check someone and then night killing that person.

But if we tell you to check Xigxag and you night kill them then that is fine. Almost like a vig shot.

"I don't want to expose myself. I am going to hope Grack isn't really a cop. If he is cop then don't lynch me because I am acting in the interest of town!"

Even after I "made up" a check on you, you think I'm afraid of making up a check on somebody else.


stop talking to him. he doesn't matter. let's work together.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 04:43 GMT
#3224
On December 18 2013 13:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Alright let's talk it out.


ok so my initial thought was checking xigxag but now i'm having second thoughts on it.

advantages:
> xigxag will not be readable at any point in this game

I like that we could use a check on him since we don't have vigis and we can't trust scum/sk to kill him

disadvantages:
> there is a non-trivial chance xigxag gets modkilled.
>the fact that he hasn't been modkilled yet is soft evidence that he is actually town;

my new position is to not check xigxag. what do you think?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 04:47 GMT
#3226
we also have a list of people alive right now, excluding me the vigi, you the cop, and plu the sk, here's who you can still check (also excluding xig for reasons stated above):

artanis
lsb
jjd
sidesprang
rayn
alakaslam


I recommend we pare this list down to 3 names, and you choose (randomly) from within those 3 so scum can't just nk the townie we check or whatever. How does that sound?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#3228
On December 18 2013 13:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:
BTW, Plu wants Grack to check Xigxag because Plu thinks Xigxag is town. Which makes it more unlikely that scum kills Grack. Plu is afraid that if Grack doesn't telegraph who he's checking, scum will kill him to prevent a red check.

Unless someone else has another idea why Plu would be so concerned about who Grack says he's checking?


I think Plu just doesn't want Grack to "waste" a check on, say, an obvtown guy like me or something. Assuming Plu is telling the truth and Grack is lying (one of them must be lying, of course), then Plu wants Grack to be forced to check whoever it is that strains Grack's lying ability the most. If Plu is lying, he's trying to act like a truth-telling Plu.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#3229
JJD, of the 6, which 3 in your opinion should be the group that Grack checks into?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 05:01 GMT
#3234
imo you should check into alaka, rayn, LSB

alaka has been kinda on xig's ass, could be playing to his fake "worship bh" persona
rayn cause he's a sly mofo and he's gotten better since the last time I caught him as scum, or is town, not sure
LSB cause people think LSB is scum and I don't, which means there's enough confusion he's worth a check

what were you thinking?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 05:01 GMT
#3235
yeah alakaslam is on my check list for sure. what about LSB?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 05:07 GMT
#3238
i like sidesprang on that list for sure actually, i can't generate a good read on him

sidesprang lsb alakaslam as the group to check into, then?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 05:13 GMT
#3240
On December 18 2013 14:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2013 14:07 Blazinghand wrote:
i like sidesprang on that list for sure actually, i can't generate a good read on him

sidesprang lsb alakaslam as the group to check into, then?

I'm fine with checking in to that group.

excellent!

Don't announce exactly which one you're checking, btw, until exactly at the deadline. This way scum can't preempt you by nking your target.

I'm not sure whether it's important you announce your check target before the flip vs after the flip since it's not like announcing it beforehand gives the scum-version of you any disadvantages. other people can weigh in on this part though
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 10:11 GMT
#3260
i'm supposed to be pretending to be asleep but DS9 is like poop tier compared to like, things that aren't DS9
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 18:58 GMT
#3280
I think what they're saying isn't that there's a 2nd cop, but that you're lying

fwiw there is a non-trivial chance there's a 2nd cop. I'd be srprised if we had 2 cops, but it's not impossible.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:05 GMT
#3289
On December 19 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 04:01 Grackaroni wrote:
if that CC was going to happen it would have happened by now. If there was a 2nd cop it should be pretty obvious.

Don't be fucking stupid. If you are lying there is no reason the real cop should claim until 1min before deadline and you know it.


the real cop should claim much, much closer to the deadline than 60 seconds.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#3294
Man I really don't know like I know I'm supposed to be that guy who catches rayn when he's scum but if rayn is scum this game he has me fooled rather admirably. The only reason I have any suspicion of him is that when rayn is town he usually projects more of his personality. I usually get a feeling his town. There are definitely times when he's town and he doesn't do that but that's the thing that had him initially on my "what's the deal with this guy" list.

Ultimately he's not doing the obvious thing like pretending to be drunk or pushing a no lynch or anything weird like that so I don't think he's a good lynch for tomorrow
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:07 GMT
#3296
lol I take back my townread on rayn
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:08 GMT
#3297
On December 19 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like here is the deal:
Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day.
Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day.
Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario.

No chance of scum counterclaiming me tomorrow? Come on Rayn you are better than that.

If someone CC's you tomorrow we lynch them, because they have been told to claim before deadline.


wat
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:09 GMT
#3299
"i'm not stupid as scum"

"I have played like absolute crap as scum"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:11 GMT
#3304
On December 19 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 04:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 19 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like here is the deal:
Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day.
Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day.
Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario.

No chance of scum counterclaiming me tomorrow? Come on Rayn you are better than that.

If someone CC's you tomorrow we lynch them, because they have been told to claim before deadline.


wat

Because scum need 1 mislynch. If Grack is town it might actually be good to cc him tomorrow to get a lynch on Grack, then get a lynch on SK.


Oh, so you're saying we could reasonably expect a cop claim from a scum player, or an SK player, so we want to have them claim before the deadline rather than after, so that there is a risk of being proven wrong by the other faction's KP.

I like that
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:32 GMT
#3309
oh shoot did grack actually claim scum? i missed it
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 18 2013 19:39 GMT
#3312
so he didn't literally claim scum
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Codebar 116
mouzHeroMarine 61
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5348
Rain 2954
Shuttle 1650
BeSt 1552
EffOrt 1038
Mini 467
firebathero 420
Larva 339
Hyuk 261
ggaemo 253
[ Show more ]
Snow 236
actioN 214
JYJ166
sSak 155
TY 101
hero 97
Mind 83
Leta 77
PianO 76
Killer 76
Sharp 61
Hyun 59
Soma 55
ToSsGirL 37
Aegong 37
soO 31
sas.Sziky 25
Sacsri 19
Terrorterran 18
Movie 17
scan(afreeca) 17
yabsab 14
HiyA 8
Shine 8
Dota 2
Gorgc8184
qojqva3640
Dendi1649
resolut1ontv 278
XcaliburYe170
League of Legends
Reynor152
Other Games
singsing1821
B2W.Neo857
hiko811
FrodaN650
Lowko344
byalli178
ceh9130
ArmadaUGS81
Mlord64
QueenE50
SortOf6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick765
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH139
• poizon28 24
• iHatsuTV 19
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6820
• TFBlade551
Other Games
• WagamamaTV443
• Shiphtur146
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
8h 26m
Kung Fu Cup
20h 26m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
OSC
1d
OSC
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
The PondCast
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
4 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.