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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 12:15 GMT
#1498
On December 12 2013 21:12 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 21:09 Holyflare wrote:
question goes to Xatalos too


Corazon. kush's vote wasn't good, but I can understand wanting to lynch someone other than Alakaslam for the information. purple's vote actually wasn't that bad, when I rethought the events. It seems reasonable to consolidate when your preferred lynch isn't happening.

Are you honestly defending a "lynch for information"? Alakaslam wasn't even up for contention anymore if I'm reconstruing the situation properly. It was VA against Spaghetti. How did Spaghetti net us more 'information' than VA would?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 20:00 GMT
#1603
On December 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 21:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 12 2013 21:04 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2013 21:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 12 2013 21:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's still more likely for scum to vote poorly than for town.

What kind of a defense is that?

Actually if we look at LXIII scum voted a lot better than town. Being right or wrong has no bearing on your alignment.


you're wrong, the entire scum team could be found by analysing the BC wagon

What I mean is that being correct doesn't mean you're more or less likely to be scum. It's more complicated then that.
On December 12 2013 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis who exaclty in your opinion voted poorly?

Anyone joining in on the bandwagon despite having a townread on Spaghetti before the bandwagon began. I haven't gone back to check out who yet.


i've done that all for you -.-

Wasn't your list incomplete? You said so yourself that you hadn't checked it yet for some.

On December 12 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you haven't done that yet how can you say "a lot of people" as you seem to not know if there were a lot of people or not?

When so many people voted for Spaghetti despite only one person voting for him early on and that being Alakaslam, you can be pretty sure about it.

Wow, this is so scummy. Can anyone else see why?

Please explain exactly why because other than being somewhat presumptuous I don't see why.
On December 12 2013 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis threw a lazy ass vote and his reasoning he is giving now doesn't look like it's lining up with his actions (he is saying he had reasons to believe Spag was scum while he had clearly not read the thread (or is lying now) - had he said "i consolidated" it would have been okay, but he is trying to explain his actions to look like something they clearly were not)

I hadn't read up the thread on the topic of the second 24 hours, but I had plenty of reason to suspect Spaghetti from D1 which I quoted in my filter. I instantly read him town in LXIII and found his behaviour vastly different in this game. His approach, his lack of similar paranoia, his everything.


I'm pretty sure on my Cora town read. He seems far too frustrated to feign as scum and is trying to come up with contributions. Not really interested in VA either.


Grack looks bad to me for trying to make a joke like that look serious and start shit up. Coupled with his indecipherable vote on Rayn makes him a good lynch target.


I hadn't read up on Vayne yet, but reading JJD's case on him I'd be happy to see him hang. not going to repeat the points, JJD mentioned them well.


Kush looks pretty bad too. He's outright refusing to give out reads supposedly for this reason.
On December 12 2013 02:12 kushm4sta wrote:
ive been trying to come up with scummy shit to say so i dont get nk

In the meantime, he's contributed nothing to town and seems to be doing everything he can to deflect people from reading him, like this.
On December 12 2013 02:16 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 02:14 purpletrator wrote:
hey kush, why did/do you have me as green?


why do you care?

He's been blatant about not giving out reads. His vote on Spaghetti was "for information", and he somehow knows Alakaslam and Purple are town.
On December 12 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote:
I think scum are going to make more obvious cases and attack generalized scumtells, like wishy washiness. Or they would go after players like alakaslam or purple (easy targets). Speghetti's case is just odd and I can't see scum ever making it.

Wouldn't mind seeing Kush hang. My only qualm with it is that Xatalos was happy to lynch him too. Meh.

Speaking of Xatalos. I'll repeat my points on him again, with a few bonus ones for good measure.
-Threw shit on everyone until he found someone that it stuck on, showing disregard for who gets lynched as long as it isn't him.
-First said I might've had a good point on him that he started too fast, then proceeds to OMGUS me later despite nothing having changed. Slight town read at first, then suddenly switches to scumread and then top scumread.
-Randomly unvotes me in favour of Purpletrator despite him not having gained any traction either. First tunnels me into oblivion, then randomly stops giving a shit from one moment on the other. His interactions with me make no sense and he seems to care more about what town thinks of them then actually convincing anyone.
-Switches up to Spaghetticus despite half his projected scumteam voting for Spaghetti.

Could we please lynch this scum already?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 20:40 GMT
#1612
On December 13 2013 05:37 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 21:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 12 2013 21:04 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2013 21:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 12 2013 21:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 12 2013 20:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's still more likely for scum to vote poorly than for town.

What kind of a defense is that?

Actually if we look at LXIII scum voted a lot better than town. Being right or wrong has no bearing on your alignment.


you're wrong, the entire scum team could be found by analysing the BC wagon

What I mean is that being correct doesn't mean you're more or less likely to be scum. It's more complicated then that.
On December 12 2013 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis who exaclty in your opinion voted poorly?

Anyone joining in on the bandwagon despite having a townread on Spaghetti before the bandwagon began. I haven't gone back to check out who yet.


i've done that all for you -.-

Wasn't your list incomplete? You said so yourself that you hadn't checked it yet for some.

On December 12 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you haven't done that yet how can you say "a lot of people" as you seem to not know if there were a lot of people or not?

When so many people voted for Spaghetti despite only one person voting for him early on and that being Alakaslam, you can be pretty sure about it.

Wow, this is so scummy. Can anyone else see why?


I'd like to hear this one.

You somehow missed this the first time around? Someone commenting on your top scumspect? It seems like you just have two modes, the mode where you tunnel me and the mode where you randomly stop to not look like you're tunneling. Your suspicions are fake and you will burn.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 20:46 GMT
#1618
Jar why do you think Kush is okay other than voting for Spag? He's intentionally made himself very difficult to read, which can only correspond with a scum agenda.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 20:52 GMT
#1624
Ah right, those are good points, but they presume that Kush plays from a logical point of view. Then again, so does my post.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 20:56 GMT
#1628
Bum could you give a short motivation why because I don't think anyone will be swayed by a list without motivation even if you die and are town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 20:59 GMT
#1633
Xatalos why didn't you comment on Rayn's post that you quoted earlier? Why did you not bring it up until I asked about it myself?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:03 GMT
#1641
Welp, lost the doc D1. That sucks. Town doesn't mean he's right though. Can we lynch Xatalos please?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:06 GMT
#1644
##Vote Xatalos
Choo choo!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:07 GMT
#1646
On December 13 2013 06:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 05:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Holyflare the Medic has been shot by an ass-bullet!

does this mean he was vig shot?

oh god what, are you serious? Our vig shot HF?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:11 GMT
#1656
On December 13 2013 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
How can corazon be scum? He's pretty much confirmed vig now after his claim and the HF shot. no one else would do that.

This was my thought as well but I wasn't certain if vigi only had one shot so I didn't want to say it yet.
Cora why couldn't you just shoot Xata instead?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:20 GMT
#1664
On December 13 2013 06:19 LSB wrote:
Can the vig claim?

Can you read?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:26 GMT
#1669
On December 13 2013 06:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 06:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On December 13 2013 06:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
the tunnel continues. down syndrome tends to have that affect
You do realize that Downs Syndrome is an affliction that affects real people. Maybe you should consider the possibility that some of the people reading this has friends or family that are affected by it before you starting throwing it around as a insult. Don't be so ignorant.


maybe you should realize how retarded you sound

If you keep this attitude up I'd be up for policy lynching you. The fact that you have a decent chance of flipping scum is a bonus. Show some fucking respect.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:28 GMT
#1671
I'll happily indulge you.
##Unvote
##Vote VayneAuthority
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:37 GMT
#1676
On December 13 2013 06:34 Xatalos wrote:
I do have to agree on the point that it's not right to insult mentally ill, but it's hardly grounds for a policy lynch.

I've got plenty of friends that are mentally ill. It's pretty equal to discriminating on sexual orientation and all that. Worst part of it is that he's unwilling to apologize over it. Fuck that attitude.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:42 GMT
#1680
Also as Xigxag and JarJar indicates he has too much knowledge.

Just one point: It was a town vigi that shot HF, not scum. It could be that he was doublestacked, but we don't know that. Makes sense if it's Vayne though because he 'knows' that HF got doublestacked.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:43 GMT
#1683
On December 13 2013 06:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
I take care of the mentally ill for my profession so fuck off with your reightous bullshit.

Then why the fuck would you use that as an insult? What the fuck.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:46 GMT
#1685
On December 13 2013 06:42 xigxag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 06:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 13 2013 06:34 Xatalos wrote:
I do have to agree on the point that it's not right to insult mentally ill, but it's hardly grounds for a policy lynch.

I've got plenty of friends that are mentally ill. It's pretty equal to discriminating on sexual orientation and all that. Worst part of it is that he's unwilling to apologize over it. Fuck that attitude.


my best friend is black, you can't use that kind of language.

...get over it and read Vayne on his posts. Not his insulting use of the word downs.

I'm happy to lynch him over his posts too. Already indicated my suspicions in my big post earlier. Don't really have anything to add. He knows too much and he's chased a mafia agenda in how he's approached lynches. I do feel like Xatalos is more likely to flip scum though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 12 2013 21:51 GMT
#1688
On December 13 2013 06:46 LSB wrote:
Yeah I can't even pretend to be able to read VA with all this flame going on. I think we honestly should just go onto a different topic until the parties involved can think clearly. Giant flame arguments do nothing for the town

Fair enough. I'm off for today.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 13 2013 12:49 GMT
#1767
Plutarch, Rayn, Kush, and anyone else here please comment on my points regarding Xatalos. I don't like that he's not being discussed at all.
On December 13 2013 05:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Speaking of Xatalos. I'll repeat my points on him again, with a few bonus ones for good measure.
-Threw shit on everyone until he found someone that it stuck on, showing disregard for who gets lynched as long as it isn't him.
-First said I might've had a good point on him that he started too fast, then proceeds to OMGUS me later despite nothing having changed. Slight town read at first, then suddenly switches to scumread and then top scumread.
-Randomly unvotes me in favour of Purpletrator despite him not having gained any traction either. First tunnels me into oblivion, then randomly stops giving a shit from one moment on the other. His interactions with me make no sense and he seems to care more about what town thinks of them then actually convincing anyone.
-Switches up to Spaghetticus despite half his projected scumteam voting for Spaghetti.

Could we please lynch this scum already?



Surprisingly I agree with Kush. Rayn is attacking one of the only players he still had a strong townread on early on for reasons I find incomprehensible. Plutarch is pretty much the most townie guy around right now, and he's attacked for rehashing reads. Rayn's intent seems to be to make no one trust eachother to prevent town from cooperating. He's also called both myself and Xatalos scum, but mentioned before that he doesn't think we can both be scum. Fast forward to today and he hasn't mentioned either of us in any real way. He hasn't tried to get to know our alignment despite calling us both scummy and at the same time saying we can't both be scum (which I'd also like an explanation for). Rayn knows too much and seems to have a scum agenda on his mind. He also hasn't answered what that 'very scummy thing' was that he quoted despite both myself and Xatalos asking what it is.
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