II Titanic Mini Mafia - Page 12

On December 17 2013 04:49 LSB wrote:
Commenting on Artanis vs Xatalos
Artanis- I'm gonna pin down Artanis as not maifa for right now. The main reasoning is his case on Xatalos is not bullshit, and it's the only half-decent case I have seen atm. Not to say that it is good, there are many points in which is disagre on, however more on that later.

Xatalos- Horrible horrible day one play. I'm going to flag his as red atm for this and this alone. The main reasoning stands from in part, my reversal of this stance

I am going to first off start off by retracting part of this analysis. After hosting some voice mafia I'm going to say the easiest way to play scum is the powerplay. Be super active and ask lots of question, pouncing on anything that anyone can deem scummily.

Compared to GoT where Xatalos was town, Xatalos is far less conservative in his red reads. His hyperaggressiveness certainly has not helped the town which has suffered heavily from all of the flame.

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Alakaslam


So why did he do this?

So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.

Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate

Current Scum Team Reads willing to bandwagon anyone in this list who is put up to the lynch:
Xatalos/SideSprang/Alakaslam/purpletrator

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##Vote: Xatalos

On December 17 2013 03:57 LSB wrote:
Also, anyone have any idea why Kushmasta was killed? I don't think it is a coincidence that we got two medics blue sniped on us.

I'm just reading his filter and incredibly confused

On December 17 2013 03:38 Blazinghand wrote:
LIKE REALLY MAN THINK ABOUT IT. for all we know xigxag's posts would be way scummier than LSB's, but WE DONT KNOW. WE DONT BECAUSE HES NOT POSTING.

nobody has a townread on xigxag. You want to know why? the motherflipper has been lurking. We can't rely on a cop in a game with 2 docs and a vigi. We can't rely on anything but the lynch, our best and first tool for destroying scum. You want xig around in LYLO? cuase that's what's gonna happen unless we lynch him before then. Scum sure as dicks aint gonna shoot him. SK won't shoot him since he doesn't know whether he's shooting scum or town when he shoots xig.

Xigxag will make it to lylo unless we stop him. The ONLY argument against lynching him that makes sense is "I think he'll get modkilled" but even then we can't rely on it, he is playing to avoid getting modkilled. Everyone's like "well I don't have a scumread on him" but shitake mushrooms, man, that ain't gonna change. What you think he's gonna somehow do something that makes him a townread for you? If so I got a bridge to sell you, real cheap, I promise.

Lynch Xigxag. it's the only move. Everyone talks about how we should lynch out the lurkers to avoid BS like this but nobody has the cojones to do it.

come on guys. have cojones. make the right play for once.

On December 17 2013 06:50 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't like that as a reason. If I had a strong scumread on alak (since even if xata is town, alak's actions are scummy) and a weaker (unflipped associative!) scumread on Xata, I'd push and vote alak rather than xata, and just say i'm open to the option of lynching xata. It's not like there's 2 hours left to the lynch, and your only option is the consolidate; why not lynch the guy who you think is more likely to flip scum?

even the so-called "wagon" on xata has only 2 votes. i don't get why you're not playing this like you did here (link). I'd like a better explanation than you just gave.

On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse.

On December 17 2013 09:49 LSB wrote:
@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched.



This is the full explanation

On December 17 2013 10:01 LSB wrote:

Both of my cases are independent of each other. So it doesn't apply in this case

But yes, should one of my cases be dependent on the other being scum (A is scum if B is scum) (ie PYP mafia day 3) I am more willing to lynch B first, and then A.

I'd prefer we stop this discussion simply because it has little relevance to what is actually going on in this game. I am more than happy to take it to PMs or postgame if you want to chat about optimal mafia play. Should you wish to defend Xata I am all ears

On December 17 2013 10:04 LSB wrote:

You did it 2 minutes before the deadline... and at the same time as Purpletrator...

Next game, do it 1 minute before the deadline and you might be able to pull it off

On December 10 2013 16:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will say though that playing as scum last game you probably realize that Slam basically adds another scum to the game as either alignment. So I'm fine with lynching him regardless unless something very convincing goes down.

On December 17 2013 10:26 Plutarch wrote:


This is why Xatalos is SK/Mafia.

Xatalos is clearly invested in the game due to how much he has been posting, yet he has not once seemed to be invested in the outcome of the lynch and has only sheeped.

He has made reads but has never really pushed them to be lynched and has instead followed some other lynch.

Xatalos is scum and needs to die today.

On December 17 2013 10:30 LSB wrote:
Welp coag just got banned

On December 17 2013 10:37 sidesprang wrote:
nah he just got banned

Link to post

I dont know how long the bans are for, trying to find now.