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<3, missed you glad your back. This also to give you guys a reference point to where I am at reading the thread. | ||
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On December 04 2013 09:50 marvellosity wrote: Sorry, I noted down this post also as I was catching up. I'm just going to say something now even though I don't want or expect anything to happen with it this cycle. This read on rayn seems really overblown. It doesn't take a genius to work out the guy with easily the longest filter is probably town. Also too much explanation on why he's parking his vote where he's parking his vote. Lol Marv since when is rayn haveing the longest filter a town tell for him? Its what he says with those posts and how he pushes his reads. Also you have to look at what he is doing with setup, if he cares much more about hunting scum than discussing setup he is town. I have gotten his alignment correct on day one the last 4-5 games I have played with him as town even though others told me I was wrong. So I felt comfortable sheeping him. Anyway I am still reading, I will say I dont like odin much. More to come. | ||
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@odin did you use you 50kp on someone? | ||
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Ok moveing on. Really only like 20 pages back. | ||
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On December 05 2013 15:17 Chezinu wrote: I'm on no page. Psh, you don't gotz to reads it! Let's chat! *dance* Ok Im game, but really I gotz ta read it. Im not awesome and able to read people in the now. | ||
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Quick thoughts, I like what gtrsrs was doing giveing LoL info out as I dont play and getting some info on what could be going on was helpful. Rean being unhelpful and not doing much of anything is scummy as hell Mocsta looks different than bttb with his tunnel on johnny law, who I am null on, but is giveing me town vibes anyway. Koshi needs to step it up instead of just thinking up inventions. MZ I like for calling out koshi. Rayn my strongest town read Marv/lion king #2 LSB is scummy for shouting roleclaim from the top of the roof and nothing else. Looks like he picked a scum hero and the best way to use it is claim it. Kush looks townish but I have a hard time reading him. No idea what happened to austin compared to his activity in LXIII, keeping a eye out. Also do people still want me to role claim? | ||
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First I want to bring your attention to his action around his votes and the reasons he gives. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 13:11 OdinOfPergo wrote: also at this point Rayn I'm agreeing with you and torn at the same time. Let me explain in short words while (hopefully) someone pulls me a draft list page. Claiming the claim page is normally pro town in this scenario... The fact he's done little but it for 3 pages of filter is not town reading at all. Once or twice a phase for the town to keep track of.... Yes we are on the same page. More than that, as per has been explicit by his post... Well I feel like he's using this "pro town" excuse over... and over... and over.... and over... simply to make post. This reads scummy as hell to me. What better way to feign activity than via something townies are going to find annoying but protown via? What has he hadded to discussion? Nothing. When has he advanced town agenda? Never. What does the town have to gain per his posting the same thing a shit ton of times? Nothing. What is the town gaining from his Tryn pick? Umm other than gliding through a few other potential townies right now to prove the fact..... NOTHING. How are you going to use this ability vs scum now that you claimed it? OH YES SCUM BUDDIES LETS RALLY IN A LINE AROUND THE SELF CLAIMED TRYND. This. Is. Retarded. Logic. Actually screw the long winded case against him. I've thoroughly proven I can't "not" write short novels as cases. So to save time and give you guys my opinion... LSB is super scummy right now. If no one is going to get on a Kush vote I might at well move to this. ##Unvote ##Vote: LSB Ok I can agree with his thoughts here about him being scummy. LSB is scummy for all the points in here. But look at the bottom he says he can give a long winded case but doesnt to save time. On December 04 2013 10:56 OdinOfPergo wrote: I have to agree at this point. LSB is obviously not going through today. So that leaves Bum and you. Bum doesn't look good and I REALLY dislike his "I'd think I'm scum" comment but I'll touch on that later if he doesn't get lynched tonight. That leaves you Jay. You've brought nothing to this game this entire phase. You don't seem to intend to change that. You've only re-inforced the "Pls don't listen to me I'm bad town" So ##Unvote ##Vote: JayBrundage Then he changes his vote to Jay because a LSB lynch isnt going to happen. But what has odin done to push a lynch on him someone he later says is his strongest read. Nothing, between his vote and his unvote he never mentions LSB, never pushes his read. On December 04 2013 10:58 OdinOfPergo wrote: @Bum the only reason I'm not voting you is I'm pretty sure you're going to go through anyway.. And if you don't you're going to shoot yourself in the foot tomorrow. On December 04 2013 10:59 OdinOfPergo wrote: Oh I should add, you'll shoot yourself if your scum. Frankly I'm sort of skeptical.. Yes I believe you have a likely chance to flip scum.. but when I re-read your filter I had questions. I don't feel well tonight or I'd have been asking them a few hours back when I first peeked in here. Now he admitts he found bum scummy also, but he isnt going to vote for him because that lynch is going to go through anyway. On December 04 2013 11:03 OdinOfPergo wrote: My best read of LSB isn't going to go through tonight. I think the main defense against his lynch is stupid. My thought on the subject is: People's defense on LSB is mainly; Bum claimed he'd pick Tryn. Unless he's scum together with LSB there is no way LSB would pick Tryn. I find this logic retarted especially after Bum himself said "Any sane townie would never pick Tryn". I mean that statement implies that if he's town, he will infact, not pick tryn. It's how I'm viewing it and to disregard the rest of LSB's post because of it is stupid. One more time his best read in LSB, but he never really pushs his lynch the unvote because that lynch isnt going though, doesnt vote bum because his lynch is going through. So what was the point of the switch onto Jay? There wasnt one, other than to 100% kill a LSB wagon. His reason for not voteing bum is so bad, he knew bum was going to flip town and didnt want to be on his wagon. Ok now I want to show you his actions on and around his kush case. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 12:36 OdinOfPergo wrote: Kush is scum. Mmk, so for the immediate 180 contradiction. + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 07:56 kushm4sta wrote: nooo i wanted to bypass this part Per your opening statement I assume you actually intend to play this game? Post like these don't seem to say that at all. + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 07:57 kushm4sta wrote: this is my policy atm: someone tell me what to do. On December 03 2013 00:08 kushm4sta wrote: hey so i replaced onlyawonderboy. please direct me to any important posts/filters. I will give my opinion on anything. ATM im going to go read mocsta's filter. This post is important to me in retrospect. You're digging through Mocsta's filter when you haven't even bothered to read the thread for any context at all. Ontop of that your basing your read entirely off of meta purposes. Or at least Kush is saying that here. You give ONE quote for your whole read? + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 00:28 kushm4sta wrote: haha oats how can you blame someone for ignoring you.. you are shitposting. I read about half of mocsta's filter and I have him as solidly town. He is approaching reads differently from how he did it in his scumgame. I feel like this line is protown and im assuming an accurate description of gtrsrs: You follow that up with some flimsy case on Kurumi. Even you know your case on Kurumi is trash. You decide Soniv and Guitar are both obv town without explaining yourself at all. I'm not sold on Koshi but at this point he's made more of an arguement trying to get pressure onto Kurumi than you even hope to do with this. Why did it take you 20 minutes to give a short paragraph on why you thought Soniv was town? You spend all of a grand single two line quote as your reasons for town on Guitar. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 00:51 kushm4sta wrote: *Snip KURUMI: SCUM JCARL: TOWN GTRSRS: TOWN (tooscummytobescum) On December 03 2013 06:33 kushm4sta wrote: hey koshi why did you sheep my shitty kurumi case? I actually agree with Kurumi here. This is too obvious. Kush hasn't even read the thread yet. Some fluffy questions that seem agreeable at first glace but you didn't/will not go anywhere with because it's counterproductive to your alignment. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote: gl with that opinion. im voting you now. On December 03 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote: *Snip didn't even know if people were voting yet. thought it could be night or some fucked up pyp preday phase This post seems reallllly odd to me. I understood it comepletly as context and it just seems like you trying to advert Jonny entirely by claiming a personal attack. How do you misunderstand post like Jonny's in this case when Geript is here? I call complete filler trying to take the easy street out of it. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 06:51 kushm4sta wrote: so marv and ve are light pushing gtr, right? brb I will look into him. @JonnyLaw+ Show Spoiler + Hi I don't know exactly what I did to you but you are coming off as super angry with me, on a PERSONAL level. Like you don't like "my vibe" you said. I am really sorry if I have acted in a way that offended you. If you are more specific with what you don't like about me, I will try to change it. So... after copping out... no personal reads or anything up to this point. As far as I can tell you're comepletely null on Jonny..... and then you do this the moment somone puts a light on him. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: k ill vote johnnylaw This is the biggest "Please take the spot light away from me! No one has bent me over backwards yet so SURELY they will just vote Jonny now and forget all about me until night phase." A nail in the coffin for me is after almost 25 hours you STILL admit to not even reading the thread in a response to Marv? I believe it was. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 10:20 kushm4sta wrote: my way is easier (for me) Ye, I believe you're scum. ##Vote:kushm4sta First lets go over his case. None of his points are actually scum tells, just lazy person tells. He never calls johhny null, he calls him out for attacking him at some point so his vote is not a contridiction. I dont see how he thinks he caught scum here it doesnt make sense. On December 03 2013 12:46 OdinOfPergo wrote: I'm not basing my read off of a Kush meta. I've never played with him before. I haven't even looked at any of his games. What I'm saying in my case is that nothing he's done is pro-active to the town. His only purpose thus far in the game is to hurt the town. And you defending him doesn't make me feel any better about you. Now he says kush just isnt proactive to the town. And in his case I dont see how he can say kush has hurt the town, and he says the person defending kush is somewhat scummy also. I dont follow his train of logic here. On December 03 2013 12:51 OdinOfPergo wrote: Help me out here at least.. @Kush; Give me a few links to your town/scum games and I'll read them and re-adjust my read on you tomorrow hours before the lynch to adjust. I plan on making a case for a few other people tonight I don't like much aswell so I'm liable to change the vote if my townies really think it's a terrible idea but damn.. If I've ever seen a town matyr himself for such scummy play. Now he says he wants previous kush games to check meta. On December 03 2013 12:54 OdinOfPergo wrote: Ugh.. I don't have the time tonight to read a bunch of other games for meta. I'll look into the database tomorrow to get an idea of what you two mean but it seems really stupid to be doing this as town. My perspective at least. Either he's solid lynchbait (Which makes me look bad) or he's obv scum. And then he doesnt have time to read kush, but after this we never get a update. Never kush is scum or kush is town, he just drops it. + Show Spoiler + I am Malzahar, the Prophet of the Void and I put a voidling on odin last night. Wondering how many people actually read this I dont there is anyway he believed kush was scum. Now just a few extra observations that I found scummy + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2013 12:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: I actually don't think we should ban champs like Talon. Yes they might be nice for mafia early on in the game by denying early checks... But really... if you're playing a scum agenda... you're going to get busted for it. The same way a Godfather gets busted for it. It's 100% the same principle. I really dont uderstand why he didnt want to get rid of this guy because scum would get caught anyway. Like in his next post he says people figure out there is a godfather in closed setups!?!? On December 02 2013 09:18 OdinOfPergo wrote: I'm fine with this plan if you can get it moving. I feel like that's a pretty far stretch from where we are though. It would be really useful for us townies in the lower brackets to know who not to pick as well so the town gets more power roles. Because other than this plan I feel like there is a pretty good probability that most of the bottom bracket is going to get jinxed out of roles. He makes this post then right after posts this On December 02 2013 09:25 OdinOfPergo wrote: well actually I'm going to semi 180 on my previous statement aswell. I could see the benefit of getting more blue roles into the game still. But it does bring up the issue that there are some roles out there you probably don't want mafia to know who has right away. So with that logic the problem with this idea is that if most claim mafia can stab at the odd ones out that don't. I feel like this is a all or nothing and at this point I don't honestly think we have enough time to get everyone on the same page either. So ye, my conclusion is we shouldn't do this. Why such a fast switch it doesnt make sense for town to post one feelong then quickly say he was wrong. Its like he was posting just to post then realized his stance is bad and flipped it. And look at the time stamps its 7 minutes apart with nothing in between. Its really fast to really think over your stance but long enough for scum qt to tell him its bad for scum to have everyone know everyones picks. On December 02 2013 09:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: Rayn, I initially really liked your plan because of that fact. I'm only hesitant on it know because there are still a lot of people that aren't here... So what's the point in like 10% of us guessing and still ending up vanilla? And now look he changes it again back to I liked the first plan but there isnt enough time. That isnt what he just said, he said not wanting scum to know where certain blues are. He waffles alot on this point. On December 02 2013 13:41 OdinOfPergo wrote: ooo Rayn do expand on Jay... My thoughts: Jay Also, I haven't brought this up yet becuase I haven't come to a strong conclusion... but I'll re-read tomorrow after I get home from work but I wanted to mention it now that the day has started.. I don't get the worse vibes from him, and I haven't looked into his meta at all. That being said though.. Anytime this case of scenarios happens I'm going to be iffy. Jay pulls the noob card a few times. Why as town would you want people to think you're not worth listening too? You mention several times that your new to PYP. Once... Mehhhhh bad tells but w/e... Twice..? Are you trying to discredit yourself to the rest of the town? I mean past that you're just trying to have opinions without being holdable to those opinions. Pushing a wishy washy case again Marv "He could be scum, maby not, maby so, maby not." For pure meta reasons? Common dude, I expected a lot more out of you. Here is his post on jay who he ends up voteing and he cant put a read on him. I just really dont find his reason for voteing Jay over his top scum read, and someone he thinks is likely to flips, or even kush who he made a case on. He doesnt want to look bad. Odin is scum. Tldr Strong scum read on LSB, unvotes him because he isnt going to be lynched, doesnt vote bum who he thinks will likely flip scum because it looks like his lynch will go through, scum read on kush, votes jay. Very little reason. Bad case on kush that points to a lazy player not a scum player, doesnt follow up on it. Quick 180 on saying who gets what blue, then says back to rayn he liked the plan but dont think it would work but before says doesnt want scum to know who has what. | ||
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On December 06 2013 02:49 supersoft wrote: :D I laughed pretty hard. Actually i started thinking about this game and balancewise Onegu should be scum... I have a strong townread on sandroba and marv. Mig looks solid. VE and MZ are 50/50. Huh balancewise I should be scum? How do you get that? | ||
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On December 06 2013 03:15 Koshi wrote: Onegu, you should talk with rayb about your OdinOfPergo case. rayn is Odin his mentor. But I like your case. Way better than all those cases you make on me all the time :D SCUM!!!! Still think you were scum in LXIII reguardless of what your flip says. Anyway odin is scum. Austin I will look at his play doesnt resemble his lxiii play with only 2 pages but idk I cant call anyone out for activity. | ||
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On December 06 2013 10:41 OdinOfPergo wrote: Mmmmmk, Hi guys! Just caught up in the thread... and well, I have some filter diving to do. It will probably take a good bit of time since I want to actually think about what I just finished reading with some thought but I'll try to get it done tonight. My main focus tonight/tomorrow morning will be Austin, Rean, VE, Mocsta. People I'll probably get to in the morning if not tonight include Mocsta (I am somewhere between slight townies/null atm but I want to filter.), Chez (Sadly I have to agree with some people here. I find it next to impossible to read half of what this guy writes and thus to avoid headaches induced by riddles tonight.... Will probably be put on a back-burner for tomorrow.), Onegu (Per his case on me I want to wait and see what else comes out of him. I also don't want to be biased in reading him so I'm strait up not going to write about him tonight.) If people have questions for me I will be around for a while tonight as I have tomorrow off. Ok so you dont want to write about me, can you at least address the points I bring up? | ||
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On December 06 2013 12:00 austinmcc wrote: I still have rayn town. I have JAT town still. I have Odin town. MZ still looks scummy to me. He's dropped in a time or two, but only to focus on jabbing at Koshi despite saying Koshi was not gonna get lynched, and now to poke at me just a lil'. Rean looks stranger, because he finally has a read, but it's just me, and he's never ever ever ever ever justified it one bit. Yet now with other votes on me, he just posts about me all day urrday and it's cool. I'd like to see him talk about some other folks. Everyone else would like to see him talk about some other folks. So, he should do that. I did not take any damage beyond the damage from Rean last night. Why is odin town, have you seen my case on him? | ||
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On December 06 2013 12:14 OdinOfPergo wrote: Ok please Onegu, I'm trying to be productive this game and I really wanted to finish my initial scum read filters before I did you but since I already said I was around and your going to put heat on me again *(If I'm your scum read PLS do put heat on me, but the fact I said I'd be around for a while and wanted to focus on adding content, which you don't seem to care about seeing at all...) I'm going to go ahead and filter you and respond to your case asap. Give me 20 minutes. I was asking austin a question. And yes I have a scum read on you, I want others thoughts on you to refine my read. It seemed like you were content to ignore me then when I ask people thier thoughts you hurry to drop everything to respond to me. | ||
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On December 06 2013 12:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: Also, here you guys go, my response to Onegu's case. #1) Who other than basically solely Rayn scum hunted Day 0? This statement is calling me scum for doing the same thing 30/31 players are doing. Do you honestly me expect me to be able to find scum based on 90% of the post during this phase concerning someone specific knowledge on Lol? #2) Your first quote about my LSB vote. Mmk, and if you read my meta... out of every single mafia game I've been in, regardless of alignment, I'm hard pressed for time. How does this make me scum? #3) You skip the rest of my post here. The fact I don't hard push for a different read I acknowledge as being questionable. I also gave a reason in the thread to as why I wasn't doing it. Yes, per Bum's filter I found him as possible scum. I mention that as I had re-read it I was skeptical that he was confirmed scum. So what's wrong with me putting my vote on the only counter wagon that I could get behind at the time? Also was it not obvious that Bum (With like 12-13 votes and LSB, the runner up, was not gaining anyvotes per Sandro's arguement) was going to indeed go through D1? Read my filter. You obviously glanced over it, why are you omitting so much? #4) How was my Kush case bad? Do people honestly believe that? I thought my train of thought was pretty obvious. The only reason I gave it up without a hard push was because my town reads at the time told me to drop it. The main reasoning for dropping it was meta related iirc. What is wrong with me trying to get Kush games to meta read off of? I mention I didn't have time THAT NIGHT to read them. .. . ... Re previous comment that is in this post. Your extra observations. #1) I didn't want to ban talon. K, so you're saying every game that has a scum God-father in it is a insta town loss? I don't believe you at all. I banned my priority bans. Talon wasn't one of them. So what? #2) What's wrong with me adjusting my stance when I think about something? What's wrong with me changing my read on the subject per more than 3/4'th of the thread hasn't actually gone into this plan yet. I say exactly what I meant there. I'm not disagreeing with the plan, just saying unless people get onboard the only thing it is accomplishing is outing roles for mafia to target. This makes me scum.... how? You're next post after that is verifying my point I just made. These post are a train of thought but you're trying to break them up. I don't understand why you are doing it. The fact I was just shooting my thoughts into the thread when they popped into my mind, and you are trying to twist it into a scum read is mind boggling. Your last quote against me. I'm scum for posting a update on my feelings on a player at the time makes me scum? Over-all you're entire case I feel is a bunch of WIFOM and just trying to frame me to look bad. Point one wasnt that big of a deal, yes most people didnt scum hunt. But up until your vote on kush all of your reads are very wishy washy with no firm stances. 2. Ok you are hard pressed for time, but the fact is you made a case on LSB where you said you could write much more. But until the rime you unvoted you didnt mention LSB except when it related to roffles interaction with him and only in passing. Never pushed a LSB lynch to the thread. And then you jump off of him because his wagon wasnt going to go through. 3. Please quote what I omitted, I quoted everything relevant to LSB and BUM from the point you put your vote on jay to the lynch. I didmt leave anything out and you saying I did is completely false. 4. One you made a case that points to lazy not scum. And its the fact again that you never followed up. You completely drop it, when you later mention your scum reads kush isnt one of them. 5. The talon thing obviously wasnt a big deal. It was the fact that you thought godfathers are found out anyway as your basis for not banning him. And how do you get me saying whenever scum gets a godfather town auto lose. In no way did I say that, you said they are always found and thats why we shouldnt ban talon. Im saying sometimes they are found sometimes they arent, so not banning him bassed on that is wierd. 6. ok this point I misread a bit. I drop this part. I thought you didnt want to do it at all when before you did wamt to do it. My bad. This and only this point conceded. 7. My point is you never have stong feelings on anyone at that point, and you vote someone you dont have strong feelings for. I dont understand how you think its all wifom and I am trying to frame you. Or how you say I omitted things, I didnt and welcome you to quote what you think I did. | ||
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Last thing why is you haveing a migrane have anything to do with your vote switches or your reason for doing so? Any you commented on other things you just didnt push a LSB lynch. So I dont understand you haveing a migrane interferes with any of you vote switching or not pushing a case but still responding to other things. So again I didnt omit anything relevant and you have faild to point out what I omited even though you say I am trying to make you look bad. | ||
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And koshi dont tell people there is a easter egg then they will look for it, it was meant to be a treat for people who actually read what I write. Like I have a town read on JaT now because of that. You somewhat also just wish you would do more. | ||
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Anyway tomorrow I will devote all day to this game filter everyone and give my notes/thoughts on everyone. Right now I am sleepy going to use my ability on prolly roffles or coag, going to check them both out see which on deserves todie the most. | ||
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Ima shoot MZ!!!! Nope nuke at MK the replacement of obv town marv lol. ##VOTE COAGULATION | ||
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On December 08 2013 16:10 kushm4sta wrote: So is there some redirection going on here or what? I dont think so because the nuke wasnt launched at MZ. Normally it would say nuke launched and then nule has been redirected. At least thats how it was in NWM. | ||
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Ok I am reading filters now. Also my hero is crap compared to some of the flipped or claimed heros, I put a voidling on someone and they take 50dmg each time they use a ability. | ||
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On December 10 2013 04:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: Oh, but he can't say too much without revealing his team's plan! Really you think ticklish took all that damage and and is scum? | ||
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On December 10 2013 04:31 jcarlsoniv wrote: Onegu, can you explain your reasons for putting a voidling on Coag last night? Also, did you put a voidling on someone Night 1? Its all in my filter. You have to find n1 its hidden. And I said I was going to put my voidling on a lurker. I basicly chose between roffles and coag n2 chose coag because of his trolling out of thread as well as in thread. | ||
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On December 10 2013 04:31 justanothertownie wrote: Rayn are you really gonna keep your vote on SS? Like, seriously? Onegu, where are the reads you promised ages ago? Irl stuff im working on it now. | ||
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As for reads Will make a case on jsoniv at somepoint in the near future. As I dont like alot of his posts and contridictions. Also some quick things LSB never proved his role did he? I dont think he did, and how is this not a big deal? Like he was all gungho about it then it never happens when he is almost lynched day 1. And what happend to Mig, I know he said he would be busy but time to comeback. On ticklish seems wierd for him to shoot sandaroba. Makes more sense for scum to shoot the healer. Was VE notified of his heal. Unless ticklish and VE are scum together I am leaning on him being town for now. | ||
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Not sure what you are seeing with the mocsta, explain for someone who is mentally hampered at the moment. | ||
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On December 10 2013 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: Any chance you've gathered your 5 reads? You promised it 2 days ago. You also promised a case on me yesterday, do you have that for our review? Youll get in sometime in the next lets say 30 hours for the case, notes on reads tonight. Im around but mentally hampered at the moment. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:37 LSB wrote: Unless an SK is in the game, taking (basically) killing amounts of KP is good enough of verification for me, unless someone steps up to claim the hit No they are saying he could be mafia who used the faction kp on sandaroba and it got shot back at him. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:48 LSB wrote: @@ Sandroba Attn plz I looked through Sandroba's filter and I don't think I see that he claimed any current HP to suggest the damage (and he also assumes that ticklemusic was shot with something else), and it seems like mafia KP works as an overkill, so I am inclined not to assume that he shot sandroba. I agree I believe ticklish is town, just parroting rayn and the arguement he isnt confirmed. | ||
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On December 11 2013 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote: ##DEMACIA!!! Oooh dun dun duuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn | ||
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On December 11 2013 01:37 jcarlsoniv wrote: How likely is it that Coag said this to throw any scum scent away from Mig? Coag was obviously going to die. He made big scumtell and was punished for it. What's the point of saying all of this? To make us think Mig is scum? To make us think Mig is town because Coag flipped scum? It is even worth taking into consideration? Its called wifom for a reason. Why are you bringing this up? | ||
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What does mean something was him saying he was going to nuke MZ and silent nuked mkfuba. Like did he think the nuke wouldnt announce who it was shot at? Like this isnt wifom because he wasnt under much pressure at the time. If anything I think this poimts to a scum MZ who was bussing, but didnt want to actually shoot his scummate just make people think he was. Also I think koshi is town. Like I feel he got caught up in his role and just was useless for a bit. But like I really doubt scum read my case closely, they would skim it maybe but since odin was town no reason to read very close, and koshi did read it close. Town on Koshi. | ||
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On December 11 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I strongly disagree. - Rean yes. - supersoft completely useless and bitched about Koshi "outing" your power use - knows too much. - Koshi lying and doesn't do anything but make angry posts. - Onegu promised reads about 5 days ago, hasn't followed up but with some shitty townreads - LSB completely useless and not interested in anything but setup shit - Mig had VE as town for taking dmg and keeps saying "it will resolve itself" but then all he does is call VE scum. Otherwise useless. - Mocsta honestly no idea but all he's done is going after kush and MZ, bad - jcarl unless he gave VE a lantern he is scum regardless of VE's alignment - ticklish scum if he does not die in a couple of nights Nope scum read on soniv, coag. And now looking at MZ. I have been really busy, but you will get a soniv case soonish. | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:05 justanothertownie wrote: Can't tell if serious... It still looks really bad. You promised this 2 times without following through now. You should stop that asap. Rayn is not someone you should trust if you are town. Guess who tried to lynch other people over coag? I don't know about that. MZ should be able to use his cloning ability again and who knows how that affects the check. Why would you do it as scum? This whole argument is stupid. I refuse to believe scum wasn't given fakeclaims. Never said I trust rayn I was just explaining to soniv what he was saying about ticklish not being confirmd. But I do have rayn as town at the moment. Anyway will make soniv case soonish. Anyway will sleep soon. | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: Onegu said that his voidling for N2 was on Coag, and his voidling target N1 was hidden in his filter. His filter wasn't very big, so looking, it seems like he placed his N1 voidling on Odin, which would coincide nicely with his case on Odin. I agree Onegu is probably town. But he's still promising a lot of things and not delivering, which is scummy. Onegu, we want to see your thoughts and reads. You're the only one that can help yourself here. + Show Spoiler + In my Odin case in a hidden spoiler I role claim and say who I used my voidling on. Like koshi finding it means he read my case fully, because of this I give him a town read. Mean while people who just skimmed it or didnt read it all I find somewhat suspicious. | ||
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