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On November 21 2013 04:43 Roffles wrote: Soniv plz. In my previous lifetime, I was Voldemort. I hope people try to lynch you immediately just for the laughs it generates. Anyway you're underestimating the community who agree and laugh when you shit talk people who deserve it. I don't care enough to post about it when people want to cry roffles so mean. | ||
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Fiddlesticks - Fear - You lose control of your keyboard and can no longer partake in any actions until the game ends or you fucking die. Fear fun ability. | ||
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Saying it's an easy cop out and a bad mafia player will pick it is terrible logic. What you're saying is if someone is suspicious and rolechecked as town then we should lynch them. Why even allow that possibility in the game? Yorick and graves are also solid ban choices. Yorick's is ridiculously strong for scum. Yo, Geript back off of Jay. Do you even LoL? So he's claiming a town spot with the trash posts what does it matter at this point? He's trying to set up a ban priority list. It's just not phrased well. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:58 jaybrundage wrote: I like Rean he's trying to roleplay his character (DoubleLift) who would mean hes town cause hes not on SKT I would think. But then there would be more players on SKT then mafia slots. So it is possible he could be mafia as LiftLift and if he was mafia with the balls to say his real role name (DoubleLift was a big SKT fan in the shoutcasting) But given his general game play so far i am gonna go with my gut and say town. What reads mafia there? I'm saying you're much more likely to be scum than jay at this point. He laid out a read from the initial posts we have. You're just blind poking. | ||
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That's a huge blow to us if karthus channels an ult on strong town players. | ||
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I'll be around tomorrow for a good amount of time before pick/ban ends. Until then I'm placing my vote. ##Vote Amumu If Amumu manages to live throughout a few phases this player could devastate the town. Anti-vote seems hard to track or link to a particular player. Should get rid of it in my opinion. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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The scope of this game is huge so I'm starting somewhere beyond Yorick and Graves. What's a better option? Talon/Graves/Yorick? I don't get why talon gets off so easily. Explain this to me. Not wanting to ban Talon because only "bad scum" or whatever words Odin used doesn't make sense to me. So if we get lucky and bad scum get talon we lynch them. If not, they fuck us? Anyway, I'm getting boozy and need to sleep. | ||
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I'll take Rayn's word that mumu isn't a ban priority and we can deal with it as the game goes on. I think you let tryndamere off too easily. There are multiple champions in LoL who could end up with a damage + reposition. Remember we only know half of their abilities. Khazix immediately comes to mind since he gets 3 abilities. Leblanc, quinn, wukong, shaco, poppy and ezreal all have the potential for their second moves to be a re-position. I bring this up because every time a re-position occurs you cannot blame him. His initial power seems incredibly strong. Unless others agree with me on tryndamere I'm voting what I consider the strongest scum ability that has a chance of being banned. ##Unvote ##Vote: Nocturne Also Rayn you made this a long read this morning. Can we try not to argue about dumb shit? This is not directed at you alone but you seem the most willing to try and help focus the town. All that shit posting will make lazy town less likely to pay attention to the game. | ||
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It's along the same lines as Yorick because we're losing information. Someone more experienced explain the why to me. For now I'm not convinced Urgot is our best choice. | ||
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I think Urgot has the third slot at this point regardless. | ||
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On December 01 2013 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: but jcarl is scum so... i dont't give a fuck This makes no sense. There's not a lot of pressure on you because you're flipping it on everyone else. Just fucking calm down, make your arguments and wait while we gain more information as people post, vote and draft. I get that you're making people talk and that will help us down the line but for now we have little information and ten pages of personal attacks and shit posting is clogging up the whole fucking thread. Get your shit together or I'm saying you are scum or at the least, not helping the town actively. The series of personal attacks and shit posting for ten pages gave me nothing yet. I'll post again after I see what scum ban. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player This means we need to know which champion the player has successfully picked. Why pick trynd at all? Just so you know who has tryndamere? There's not a chance in hell I'm picking that champion. I plan to contribute to winning this game. Dealing damage to people above/below me does not help us win the game. I don't even understand. Actually, I must say fuck your list. I disagree strongly with most of the conclusions. I think you're scum as is. | ||
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So we learn that one particular player is not one particular role? That's terrible. | ||
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BAL which role do you want in the middle of the pack then? All you're telling us right now is that the top players should pick terrible roles. Why? | ||
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What I'm saying is that warwick offers such a random attempt at something. With the bans how does ww benefit the scum anymore than other champions that deal guaranteed damage. Your argument is preventing scum from getting champs you think are strong for them. Look at Ziggs/twitch/eve for guaranteed damage. Then there are defensive champs for scum who already know their teammates. Warwick and trynd are just garbage imo. Do you really expect to have scum line up for trynd in a position where we know who they are? It seems like a ridiculous pick to me. | ||
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If we set out concrete picks too far down the line then scum have an opportunity to ensure strong players roll vt. There are a select number of champs who will be beneficial if everyone knows who has them. Beyond that, claiming your role leaves you vulnerable. Is giving town more information worth the risk of scum having that same information? I don't think so in most cases. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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gtrs - I dont like how his filter reads but he hasn't really given us much to lynch him either. I know he's capable of playing better as town so either he's busy, lazy or scum. None of these qualities help us win the game. Soniv - fine for now. Looks to be making an effort to push the game towards a goal. kushmasta - Like really? This guy comes into the thread and starts calling people scum in one liners and generally shitting the place up. He replaced OWB who completely shut down and hated playing scum in NMM L. The random tooscummytobescum post irritates me as well. The rest have longer filters and I need to evaluate them. Just reading through the last 20 pages hasn't left me with other strong feelings yet. I'll be checking filters and around for a while. | ||
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I'll check which posts those are ve. | ||
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I think we've said enough about him for now. There's just not a lot to go on unless he brings a defense forward. I want to see him pointing us in a stronger direction. Kushmasta seems much scummier to me. On December 03 2013 01:25 kushm4sta wrote: @ve it's more of a townie antitowniness. Town are more likely to act blatantly antitown than scum. Obviously there are exceptions for certain players. I completely disagree with his post here. On December 03 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote: gl with that opinion. im voting you now. And what's the point of posting this shit? I don't like this vibe at all. He's saying scum won't act scummy while he's acting scummiest of all. | ||
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If he doesn't contribute I have no problem policy lynching him as a last resort. Until that happens I'd rather focus on people we can read since they're actually playing the game. | ||
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You dropped into the thread, call soniv and gtr town. Fine, I don't disagree. You call yourself scum, two posts later say you people that act anti-town must be town then shit post for another page of one liners. You're distracting conversation and not trying to move it forward after your initial post on Kurumi. | ||
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He's not helping town in any fashion right now. There's still nearly 30 hours till end of day so let's give it some time. I'll go read kurumi's filter Kush and see what I can find. | ||
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On December 03 2013 06:44 VisceraEyes wrote: MY problem with him isn't activity. He's certainly not being active, but that's not why I dislike him. I didn't like the post where he called out one-liner posts. Like, when a townie does that they're usually like, trying to read the thread and stuff. But when gtsrs did it he had nothing more to add - he had no reads to speak of and asked no questions of the people who were active. I wasn't convinced after reading that post that gtsrs was reading the thread at all - just bitching about people posting. I agree VE. Does that make him scum and not just lazy town? | ||
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I agree with you that Kurumi's trying to lead the town while not actually saying anything outside of game policy and how we should be playing. There's not a lot of substance aside from when he's asked directly or arguing with you. Maybe you two have some problem I wasn't aware of before this game. Sandroba I'll do it next. | ||
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Austin talks about champ abilities and not wanting town to role claim. I'm not certain role claiming is the best policy either. Maybe I'm missing something but these two are lurking harder than gtrs. Mocsta is making a lot of excuses. Busy, in mylo etc... I generally agree with Roffles and Mocsta about gtrs. + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 15:08 Roffles wrote: I think gtrsrs just doesn't give a fuck anymore because he didn't get his champ of choice and is stuck as a vanilla townie. To me it all makes sense cause I know he probably just picked a champ he likes playing in the actual game (Khazix) and seemed cool in terms of skills here (he announced he was doing this too), but wasn't able to grab him and now just starts screwing around cause he's got nothing better to do. MZ wants gtrs lynched and then spends the rest of his posts defending himself. If this is a popular sentiment and he was a proponent of it early why is he getting so much flak? Are mocsta and MZ arguing for some personal reasons? Why did you want me to read these filters. The first two say nothing and the second two are just arguing. Rayn thinks MZ's contradicting himself but the first couple days I thought Rayn posted okay for the most part. I'm more confused about them at this point than anything. tldr Rean and Austin are useless right now because they're doing nothing. Mocsta's making excuses without them being asked. Could be scummy. MZ's spending all his time on defense. This is the opposite of how soniv approached aggression directed his way. That's why I liked soniv for town earlier. | ||
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The second two I have no what they're arguing about in the first place. Unless I missed something I just assume it's some personal vendetta. A lot of you know each other from previous games and I assume I'm out of the loop on something. I'm going to go through the rest of the filters to establish my footing better in this game. | ||
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I'd just caught up on the thread when sandro asked about those four filters. I read them and still think he linked me four of the most useless filters possible. Two are lurking and two were arguing about nothing. What the fuck am I supposed to glean from those filters. It felt like an honest waste of time even reading them. I'm done defending that post. Fine it's bad analysis or none if you prefer, but there was nothing to learn from those filters. Kush is still doing nothing in this game. He enters the game, tosses some shit in Kurimi's direction then proceeds to call two people town who are under suspicion with no reasoning aside from tooscummytobescum. Then he gets pissy says im voting you and switches to me at the first chance? What are you motivations here? Do you have a plan or are you just flinging dirt everywhere until it sticks. Do you care who gets lynched? Jay's filter looks scummy as well. He's active while geript is on his ass then makes a case out of nothing on Marv. It's ballsy but since he's failed to contribute since that idea was shot down I don't know what to think. And I never +1'd anyone. If anything I said the opposite of common feeling at the time. There are five pages focused on lynching lurkers then sandro asks my opinions on more lurkers. I said Soniv is trying to help the town when he had votes and people still discussing it. +1 nothing. | ||
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On December 03 2013 11:14 geript wrote: I'm really confused by all these guys who think I might be scum. There's like 110% town flip for me based on my play alone. I really don't get it. Isn't every read based on play? Why do you think your play is so transparent? You've been jumping on people all game in a seemingly random fashion. You distract more than contribute. | ||
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On December 03 2013 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you are still saying you wanna read other people than lurkers and proceed to talk only about lurkers.. Because I was asked by sandro about the lurking players. Is it that hard to grasp? I was frustrated by the filters he wanted me to read. | ||
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LSB's incessant spamming of the claim now plus the list concerns me more. Moving up the slightly to prove you're tryndamere might be helpful but dealing damage to everyone along the way? I don't buy it man. If you think Bum's scum try and get him lynched instead of damaging half the town on your way up. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 01 2013 12:02 Mid or Feed wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/glh5V6v.jpg?2) WaveofShadow, the caster for the event broadcasts to the crowd: ”The bans are in! For SK Telecom T1: Ashe Caitlyn Quinn Looks like the Koreans are really fearing that female AD carry presence! For The Challengers: Yorick Urgot Graves More AD carry bans---will there even BE a bottom lane in this game?! Now that the bans and pick order have been determined, the Champion picks can begin and the game can get underway!!” Draft Order: Koshi Kurumi VisceraEyes jcarlsoniv Mig JonnyLaw Risen StorrZerg geript austinmcc Meapak_Ziphh Sandroba Kenpachi Rean bumatlarge BloddyC0bbler justanothertownie marvellosity gtrsrs OdinOfPergo Mocsta supersoft Oatsmaster raynpelikoneet onlywonderboy ticklishmusic Roffles Bill Murray jaybrundage nyxnyxnyx The Pick Phase will now begin. All players must submit a single Champion of their choice to be picked. Send your pick to Mid or Feed by . Once the phase ends, Day 1 will begin. If you fail to submit a Champion choice by the deadline, you will receive one of three possible Vanilla roles at random. If the Champion you have chosen has already been picked or banned, you will also receive a Vanilla role. Good luck, Summoners! LSB replaces nyx. He's halfway across the board. Am I missing something on this point? I think Kush is scummy still regardless of meta. If a player is known for playing badly and plays badly push them for more if they're town. If not, push them get a scum read. Why are you guys so comfortable letting him sit around flinging dirt on everyone then bandwagoning whatever is convenient? Rayn am I missing something on that list or is LSB halfway across the list from bum? Is this the wrong list? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 05:23 Risen wrote: 1) So they are not misused? They will be misused if scum knows what we're doing and knows where we're aiming things. Revealed by process of elimination? How? Not every role got picked, some people got VT from choosing something other people chose. 2) Why is this good again? This whole statement is so condescending and self-centered. Reads as you don't want everyone's input on role actions, you just want to know where the things are being aimed. 3) Except mafia can also help direct claimed town so... 4) Right now? But you reserve the right to later. Got it. Okay so you don't like LSB's ideas. Fine. A few people in the thread do not agree with him. You even make a couple more posts arguing against mass claims. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 07:17 Risen wrote: I'm down to lynch LSB. Only thing that makes me hesitate is that's a nice amount of effort he has put in compared to others (myself included). ##vote: LSB Then you want him lynched. Fair enough. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 10:32 Risen wrote: That's a pretty solid contradiction. Not even nit picky, it's literally saying one thing, saying you'll be doing that thing, and then doing another thing. More solid than anything I have on LBS ##unvote ##vote: JonnyLaw Then you flip flop as soon as it's convenient. How in the hell do you say that I contradict myself when I said I want to hunt scum who have longer filters? I said that when gtrs was the main lynch candidate and Sandroba asked for my read. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 10:35 Risen wrote: I've been convinced to claim. Not having access to much of what each role can do limits the value of everyone claiming, but I hadn't considered the value of trackers when thinking about what mafia could do as far as doctor/roleblock. I am Karma, the Enlightened One! OdinOfPergo you have no one to blame but yourself for not picking someone different. I told you not to pick her. Then you go from wanted LSB lynched to agreeing to his tactic. Most of your content has been posted about why LSB is wrong. | ||
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##unvote Wow, preview is not post. Someone's going to scan this page and I don't even know what to say. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I'm down to lynch LSB. Only thing that makes me hesitate is that's a nice amount of effort he has put in compared to others (myself included). Oh I'm not here but he's trying hard but it's okay if we kill him. You sat around happily until other players started to agree that LSB might be scum. Get outta here with that nonsense. | ||
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Then he backtracks says kur is town. If we're supposed to play the game ignoring this guy give me a disclaimer next time. | ||
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I was inclined to say bum isn't scum because he actually stuck to his plan rather than taking the easy way out and voting LSB. Then I looked at the timing and he literally had no pressure on him from any other source aside from LSB. It's easy to blend in when you can claim you're sticking to your plan. He literally does nothing aside from propose how we ban and tunnel jcarl. I'm okay with this vote. ##Vote: Bumatlarge | ||
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On December 04 2013 08:13 Mig wrote: VE do you think bum is mafia? You are switching off of LSB just because you are lazy or what? Marv/sandorba any concerns with everyone jumping on Bum without hesitation? I've hesitated. Bum put himself out there to defend me when it was unneeded. If he's scum he's not taking the easier lynch targets like myself or LSB but instead insists on jcarl for scum. This only lasts until pressure comes his way then he switches. That didn't read well to me at all. | ||
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On December 04 2013 08:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: Also I really hate the fact Rean comes back into the thread to basically mention Roffles toxicity and ignores everything else. The little exchange between him and LSB doesn't sit right with me in any way. He openly admits he hasn't been reading the thread. Fails to mention anything that's been going on at all since D1 starts when he does pop into the thread. Doesn't like Roffles comment and proceeds to disappear again. Is this how we are suppose to play this game? If you don't want the town to win the game it is. | ||
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His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it. | ||
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I dunno if he wants to kiss Marv's feet or take him into a dark alley and beat him. + Show Spoiler + During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch. | ||
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On December 04 2013 09:54 marvellosity wrote: Basically last time he posted he was promising to read filters and contribute to the game. He comes back to the thread with some indication that he has in fact read the thread (enough to mention LSB and sandro and what they said about bum) but literally has no other contribution of note. He's totally opted out of doing anything today, which fits in much more with how he plays mafia than how he plays town. He seems to have zero interest in thinking critically about the game or doing anything. It reads like he made that post because he HAD to, not because he wanted to. I agree, reading his filter from the nomination game he's jumping on people everywhere and making scum reads. They're not always right it appears but he's active and hunting. He's active every day near lynch time and answering when questioned. He is clearly playing differently this game. | ||
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Take for example when I "called kush a weird dude" I was quickly jumped on by people saying that's how kush should be playing. He came into the thread threw out a couple reads and then posts one liners the rest of the game. That seems suspicious to me. If that's how he plays then fine. LSB's play this entire game leaves me suspicious of him. I know this has been discussed but bear with me here. On December 03 2013 03:56 LSB wrote: Lastly I'm going to policy vote Bum for not following through with what he was pushing. Just for a point of reference in PYP2 (i think), I was SK and I pushed heavily a plan, and I deviated from it as a way to attempt to make sure I was invincible. ##Vote: Bumatlarge After making this post LSB conveniently sticks to his plan of how town would play to the point of fanatacism and derailing the thread. He posts that list four times with most of his other posts only explaining why he wants to mass claim. On December 03 2013 08:38 LSB wrote: I am not going to respond to accusations from people who have A) Not roleclaimed or B) Have not provided a good reason for not roleclaiming due to their role. I will respond to questions about roleclaiming. Yeah, we get it. You made a plan and you're gonna ride that plan into the sunset. On December 03 2013 11:36 LSB wrote: ^Paraphrased. Honestly Bumatlarge is following the basic plan I used as SK from PYP3, first get an idea of where everyone is who can kill you and try to grab an ability that will make it so you cant get killed by mafia, while all the time trying to convince everyone that I have a different ability. "This would have been better for town" was the exact same reasoning I used to try to convince town I wasn't SK in PYP3. I'm sticking to my policy lynch plan. I'm thinking Bumatlarge is SK and grabbed a defensive role as a way to make sure he stays alive. I'm going to pin him as "not town". Deviation from your own plan is pretty scummy since a plan requires as much players to follow it as possible. Again he mentions his SK play so it's fresh on his mind. What better defensive ability than Tryndamere's ultimate. He mentioned having a defensive ability earlier. It's been mentioned before but trynd's ultimate grants him immunity from death for a certain period of time. On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote: Never said anything about SK, just said not town. Good enough for me to try to drop da hammer. My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer He's just lying here about calling bum sk. I think it was Sandroba who said that Bum came into the game much too formulaic. In four pages of filter every post LSB has made is either about claims, the champion list or policy lynching bum. Is there anything more formulaic than that? On December 04 2013 03:57 sandroba wrote: People voting LSB here is what I think: It is only possible LSB is scum if bum is scum. If Bum is town and LSB is scum, LSB wouldn't have taken trynn, because his team would have told him not to do so since Bum was probably going to take it. If Bum is scum and LSB is scum, he could have dropped it to LSB, but I don't think that's the most likely scenario. If Bum is scum and LSB is town and just replaced in and didn't read bum's plans he could have went for tryn. This seems likely to me because LSB only noticed Bum didn't follow his own plan after BC called out bum on it. The other scenario is bum and lsb are town, which is also possible. But the base line is, if you think LSB is scum vote Bum first. I bet you any amount you want that if LSB was scum and just replaced in he would have consulted with his team before picking something and they would have told him Bum was planning on picking trynn. I don't think that has to be true. It's easy to use LSB's logic for picking tryndamere as scum. Eh...he's not a strong town role maybe he'll be around for me to pick it up. I don't trust LSB at all. Would lynch. Why do Rean, Onegu, Coag, Kenpachi and Gtrsr all get byes for lurking? This post is getting too long. I'll follow it up with the rest of my thoughts shortly. | ||
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The first half of it is explaining how to play mafia and soniv being upset that guitar contributes nothing. Gtr didn't post anything, then came into the thread and posted some wiki's of champs abilities. In a game where people spend hours researching their reads I assume they have heard of google. Those posts were utter shit Gtr don't be mad about it. His entire case is just defending himself. Soniv doesn't like how I'm playing he must be scum. So, soniv went from nuetral on you when you lurked then called you scummy when you posted information that's readily available in the middle of an ongoing discussion? That's reasonable. Then when he finally talks about something not related to himself it's a huge stretch. + Show Spoiler + If we are 100% sure that there are 5 scum next to you and you want to spin through them, whatever, I don't care. But otherwise you will be aiding scum. And even if you confirm yourself as Tryndamere by spinning through townies, how in the hell does that help you look town yourself? Why would we keep you around? Gtr says that means soniv doesnt want to lynch scum. He said spinning through the team to get at bum is a bad idea. The entire case is bad. It doesn't mean soniv's town but that case clearly does not make him scum to me. | ||
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I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv. | ||
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On December 05 2013 09:43 marvellosity wrote: You were defensive. You did lash out. These are not unfair interpretations of what you have done at all. I saw it as pushing him to make a post rather than lashing out. Gtrs clearly came into the thread and made no effort to read it. He posts well enough in general that more can be expected of him. | ||
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Attacking the person you know in the thread doesn't make him more town to me. He's attacking the person who addressed his lack of content in the thread then saying he won't post for a while. Soniv already had pressure from bum and it's such an easy target. Lurking then posting a bad read then lurking some more does not make him town. | ||
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I agreed early in the game that Mocsta's lurking is not helping the game. He didn't like that at all. As soon as the opportunity came Mocsta latches onto me when Sandro jumps on me. Fine, Sandro makes good cases and got bum lynched. Mocsta thinks my reason for doubting the bum lynch (he called me clearly town when had no reason to not lynch me if he's scum) is a reason to lynch me. Mocsta then jumps on the Bum wagon with the exact same logic. We can't have it both ways can we? Later Prome comes into the thread and calls me scum. Since that point Mocsta's had an obsession with lynching me. Prome dies after that and becomes a convenient martyr. I'd like to finish this point by saying <> =/ [] on tl. <> is not how you bold words on TL. That issue pops up three times in the Mocsta filter. Actually that looks like a decent face to use while gaming. Exasperated maybe? + Show Spoiler + I still think LSB is scummy. I don't know how to link to a particular post so here you go. On December 05 2013 08:03 JonnyLaw wrote: Prome your case on me cannot ignore that early game league discussion. I was discussing with Bum the best champs to pick and ban because I thought it could help us win the game. I started this game trying to see how people play. I quickly realized that with a list of 30 players a lot of which already know each other from previous games this is difficult. Take for example when I "called kush a weird dude" I was quickly jumped on by people saying that's how kush should be playing. He came into the thread threw out a couple reads and then posts one liners the rest of the game. That seems suspicious to me. If that's how he plays then fine. LSB's play this entire game leaves me suspicious of him. I know this has been discussed but bear with me here. After making this post LSB conveniently sticks to his plan of how town would play to the point of fanatacism and derailing the thread. He posts that list four times with most of his other posts only explaining why he wants to mass claim. Yeah, we get it. You made a plan and you're gonna ride that plan into the sunset. Again he mentions his SK play so it's fresh on his mind. What better defensive ability than Tryndamere's ultimate. He mentioned having a defensive ability earlier. It's been mentioned before but trynd's ultimate grants him immunity from death for a certain period of time. He's just lying here about calling bum sk. I think it was Sandroba who said that Bum came into the game much too formulaic. In four pages of filter every post LSB has made is either about claims, the champion list or policy lynching bum. Is there anything more formulaic than that? I don't think that has to be true. It's easy to use LSB's logic for picking tryndamere as scum. Eh...he's not a strong town role maybe he'll be around for me to pick it up. I don't trust LSB at all. Would lynch. Why do Rean, Onegu, Coag, Kenpachi and Gtrsr all get byes for lurking? This post is getting too long. I'll follow it up with the rest of my thoughts shortly. Gtrs gets by saying nothing of relevance for some reason. He came in and made a terrible post about soniv and talks about champions. I would lynch him as well. On d1 I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he'd contribute but no longer. I think he's trying to slide under our radar by claiming to give us information which we can get from a quick google search or the OP if you click a link to the champ wiki. Gtr's been following Bum's soniv lynch all game and I doubt he's read much else. The claim of I'm right and helping town if you follow my lead is bull shit. i don't buy the case on austin. I think sandro's town as well. This is a key selling point in Sandro's case. Austin thinks bum and sandro are town is not enough reason to lynch him. I don't like Risen either. He's inactive and when he posts it adds nothing to the game. I dont care about your beer pong tournament. Is this another meta read like kush and chezinu? Geript you're just calling me a bad player. Not scummy. I'm not bad and stand by my reasoning. I think abilities that affect the entire game have dire consequences. That's why I went from amumu to nocturne. | ||
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On December 06 2013 11:56 ticklishmusic wrote: Oh shit accidental edit my bad. Meant to ebwodp but oops. And for another ACTUAL ebwodp, how do mods choose priority for night actions done to a player? It's in the OP. | ||
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HP is the ONLY notification you will be receiving unless otherwise specified; players are not informed if their abilities landed, if they are roleblocked, healed/shielded/hit with KP/etc. You will be informed if an ability is refunded to you for whatever reason. Unless otherwise stated in your role PM, you may only use one ability per phase. There are multiple ability ‘types’ in this game and they will be listed here for reference in order of resolution (if necessary): Untargetable Redirects Roleblocks Time delay Items/traps KP/shields/deaths Heals Signup list switches/checks | ||
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I don't like obvious actions and this one doesn't make sense to me. MZ is at least 6 slots across the list from me so it's not splash damage. | ||
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I called out Kush, got shit on by a couple people because that's how he plays. I didn't realize people intentionally play like shit and post one liners that don't help town at all. That was my original complaint about rayn. Now he gets praised for having the largest filter in the game. LSB is a good lynch because he contributes nothing to the game. I will vote you as well just like I said. You're wagoning whatever is easy. | ||
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On December 06 2013 12:21 Mocsta wrote: JonnyLaw, I'm going to choose my words carefully, after all there is no need to convince scum that they are scum. (1) You are running a discredit campaign on me by twisting easy to prove facts. This *is* scummy (2) How are you an easy bandwagon, when experienced players like Sandroba/Rayn don't agree with the strength of my read. This is more discredit attempts (3) If you did call me scum, you went about it in the most wishy-washy softly-spoken way possible, and that *is* scummy too. All you say is you *could* lynch me. Who are you *GOING* to lynch. First of all who's getting lynched is not my call. I have a vote. You think my vote is the most influential in the game? I don't. I got shit on d1 for thinking I know something about tl mafia. As I said I'll happily lynch you. You pegged me scum, jumped to bum when convenient then came back at me once bum was town and prome joined the game. I said bum might be town because his post saying im town makes no sense if he's scum. He could ride the LSB bandwagon till the end. You call me scum for that logic then post the same logic for why I am scum. You can't have it both ways. | ||
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On December 06 2013 12:39 Mocsta wrote: Firstly, thanks for completely ignoring the point about running a smear campaign on me. Secondly, so you are admitting to <blatant> sheep voting then? I find it unacceptable that you wont take accountability to state where you want the lynch headed. What type of frigging response is that. If you are town, a vote is meant to be your most important weapon.... I have you as scum and haven't waivered. Theres xyz scum in this game, and I was convinced on what was put out on Bum. Just like many other players, they dropped their reads to lynch Bum... why is this scummy Jonny? More smear campaign from you. I'm not running a smear campaign on you. At this point my vote is my most important tool on a daily basis. More important than that is not getting lynched. I felt a boot to the face when I started accusing Kush like I did to Odin d1 of our newb game. That's why I said I'll vote you, LSB or gtrs and don't think the case on Austin is convincing. | ||
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On December 06 2013 13:58 austinmcc wrote: Sandroba still townie. Kha'zix post. Calls out LSB for wanting a "friendly helper" to boost his damage so he can....spin across a bunch of people, likely hitting townies. Checking oats, then off for the night. Why does no one else mention LSB? I like austin. He's not ignoring the strange behavior. I don't trust LSB as town at all. ##vote Lsb | ||
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Look at Chezinu' posts and interpret. Then laugh. This is why I got so much shit questioning Kush. It's expected. Take a breath and roll with the trolls. | ||
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I don't like Austin or MZ lynches. I have no idea about roffles. Those two are at least trying where roffles is giving us zero idea about his alignment and certainly not helping the town. If one of them is scum they'll slip but I don't think the cases are strong enough to lynch them. I really wish sandro had elaborated on his read between the two of them. ## Unvote ## Vote: Roffles | ||
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On December 08 2013 08:27 Chezinu wrote: oh, if one of jonny or mig die tonight. you know what to do. If one of mig or mz die tonigh, you know what to do. ok, now truly night... maybe! Killing me wouldn't be very nice. After day post I'm going to try to make sense of the Austin lynch. Geript switching last second seems too open to be a scum move. Neither of the cases made a strong argument for scum. Roffles' trolling doesnt help us at all. | ||
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Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential. rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three. I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads. | ||
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Mocsta - His whole filter is trying to target bad play but not specifically scum hunting. Scum. Kush is scum because he believes what someone else says in mafia? ve - If I'm reading this right VE will return no claims since the first two failed and it takes two days to get a read back. Now he wants to laser someone instead of cop checking two people. The better play is to actually get two cop reads when we don't have another way to check. slightly scummy. mz - He's emotional while appealing his lynch and the thought that he'll die to the nuke. It's all just spam and calling people names. Another player adding nothing. The case on him was weak d2 and I think there's better options. slightly scummy and derailing. lsb - After his list obsession he's just been pressuring reads that don't make sense to me. His case on Kush is essentially that Kush has no scum reads. Weak. His case on Koshi is just as weak. Then he just talks about the crown for a few posts when we already know it's gone. I've thought he's scum all game. Still do. mig - shows up to deal damage nightly and report in. Also could be scum. rufflez - who knows? | ||
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On December 09 2013 11:07 Mocsta wrote: WTF does this even mean. "Too comfortably for scum" Explain NOW. Reading their filters and looking at them in the thread they've been called out for playing poorly. I don't think it's poor play but more a general sense of confusion in the thread. They're quite transparent to me. | ||
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You've done nothing but post one liners all game aside from one post a couple pages ago. Your read this game is to sheep what's popular then call out anyone who thinks you're scum? Doctor is scary in scum hands as well. | ||
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Coag could be scum. That's what I said. Roffles could be scum. Voting yourself and throwing out random damage are both scummy. Mig's doing the same thing. Comes in, drops some damage and posts a bit of nothing then leaves. I don't know how to differentiate between the behavior of those three. This becomes more difficult since I don't think kush is scum. He seems misguided but his posts feel genuine, unlike your posting. | ||
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##vote: Coagulation | ||
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Hahaha Sandro all you've done all game is chase after one lead which you don't like then proceed to get the them killed. I didn't particularly like your case on Bum and hated the one on Austin. I felt you were town most of the game and now I'm starting to doubt it. Every time I post in this thread you jump on my ass for it. You haven't made a case aside from "read his filter." Yeah, please do read it. Every time I post I say who I think is scum and why. You ignore what I post and say it's garbage. In all seriousness I'm hardly a lurker. I just don't get a lot of time to sit here and post bull shit one liners. My filter is the same length or longer than half the players in the game and my posts are not short. Make your case then please. I still think gtrs, lsb, mig, rean, roffles are much better options for our kp. | ||
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I took 500dmg. Started 850 then 125n1 and 500 now. | ||
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On December 11 2013 12:00 Mocsta wrote: Koshi is innocent child??? What does this invention do? Last post on the last page. Prob should have quoted it. Anyway mig we don't have any idea how much hp Rean had from n1 or the beginning. | ||
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