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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 09 2013 20:34 GMT
#5432
Where arr gtsrs amd rofflw s

And fucling lsb* where did je go (
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 09 2013 23:49 GMT
#5538
On December 10 2013 08:31 Mig wrote:
I have to go for the rest of the night but murder coag.

I really wonder why my shot on MZ did not work. I doubt very much that mafia would waste a rb on me when my attack only does 125 dmg. So either kassadin stopped my attack or something protected MZ. If the hosts reply that roleblocking does not stop inventions then there is a chance the invention would have worked but MZ lied about using his clone n1 and used it n2 stopping the invention and my shot.

mig really.

Firstly, why would I lie about cloning N1? What possible motivation is there for me to do that? Secondly, my clone doesn't roleblock, the description is in the OP.

Actually let me ask you this, what information did you receive about your shot N1 and what information did you receive N2?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 10 2013 01:41 GMT
#5550
voted coag. He's basically confirmed scum imo
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 10 2013 11:13 GMT
#5664
wow Koshi you're really butthurt that I called you scum lol

I want to lynch you. You have straight up refused to cooperate with the town, you made on invention which didn't do anything and your second invention was worthless. You should have fucking invented a police radio N1, you had a second chance N2. It seems to me that you're afraid of investigative roles. Lastly your case on me is complete bullshit and reads like "I want MZ to be scum so he must be scum."

To be honest you've done everything I would expect a scum inventor to do, you've tried to make things that appear town but either don't really work or don't give valuable information. Your second invention almost seems like a way to give scum more information. As I said in the beginning of the game, anything that gives scum information is bad.

I should have fucking gone with my gut and tried to lynch you D1 when you were being an ass and refusing to cooperate for literally no reason. Done giving you a free pass.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#5666
aww koshi it must hurt to have been caught
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 10 2013 11:24 GMT
#5670
On December 10 2013 20:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 20:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
aww koshi it must hurt to have been caught

The only thing that ever hurt me that you did was playing in TL noir. rofl host.

That is pretty fuckin low man

What's your deal?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 10 2013 11:33 GMT
#5676
On December 10 2013 20:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Starting a flame war is actually something I like to do as scum. Koshi's recent behavior does not instill me with confidence that he is town.

For the record I am actually pretty livid at koshi right now. idgaf what your alignment is, there's no reason to go ad hominem. Also you don't fucking hold grudges. I already apologized for noir and it was a long time ago to boot.

That said, I firmly stand by my read of koshi as scum. This latest interaction only reinforces that because there is no possible townie motive for getting into a shitfest with me. Only reasons are to shit up the thread or detract from my (very valid) points against him. There is literally no townie motive to do what he is doing.

I'm gonna go cool off for a bit.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 10 2013 11:36 GMT
#5678
On December 10 2013 20:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 20:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 10 2013 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On December 10 2013 20:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
aww koshi it must hurt to have been caught

The only thing that ever hurt me that you did was playing in TL noir. rofl host.

That is pretty fuckin low man

What's your deal?

You call me worthless.
You call me bad
From fucking day 1

You do fucking nothing.
I actually make a legit case on you.
You reply with Koshi is butthurt.
You continue to do nothing, not play the game.

You don't set the bar on how low we can go.

I have only addressed your behavior this game which has been worthless and bad if you're town.

I on the other hand have pushed reads and tried to win.

You don't have a fucking "legit case"

You are apparently butthurt from a game that happened months ago

ok actually I'm not engaging with you further, that won't help anyone.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 10 2013 22:17 GMT
#5954
On December 11 2013 06:13 Mig wrote:
Well no point in arguing a lot about it, but I would just ask yourself if you think mafia is going to shoot you tonight. (the answer is probably no). If you are mafia then disregard.

LSB/MZ neither of you have claimed your second powers. What are they?

On December 07 2013 11:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 11:44 supersoft wrote:
what's your hidden abilitie MZ?

It's nimbus strike, it deals 50 damage to three targets. I can use it once

Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:33 GMT
#6022
On December 11 2013 09:25 justanothertownie wrote:
One of the questions is - how likely is it that Mig got a hp value back if he hit a clone? Not very likely I think. More likely that Mig hit a clone N2 and got no HP value back.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Ok why on earth would I lie about the clone N1?

You all have jumped to the conclusion that I lied N1 for some reason but really, what reason would I have to lie? I cloned N1 because I thought I'd be a decent scum shot. People were calling me town after the D1 but I didn't feel that I was likely to be protected. JAT you're making assumptions about how mig's role interacts with my role. The text of my role is this "All abilities that would have hit you hit your clone instead." It's in the OP, where in there does it say to you that Mig wouldn't get back a number.

Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:38 GMT
#6027
On December 11 2013 09:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:25 justanothertownie wrote:
One of the questions is - how likely is it that Mig got a hp value back if he hit a clone? Not very likely I think. More likely that Mig hit a clone N2 and got no HP value back.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Ok why on earth would I lie about the clone N1?

You all have jumped to the conclusion that I lied N1 for some reason but really, what reason would I have to lie? I cloned N1 because I thought I'd be a decent scum shot. People were calling me town after the D1 but I didn't feel that I was likely to be protected. JAT you're making assumptions about how mig's role interacts with my role. The text of my role is this "All abilities that would have hit you hit your clone instead." It's in the OP, where in there does it say to you that Mig wouldn't get back a number.


Obviously it doesn't say that. But I think it is much more likely that you used your clone night 2 and he got nothing back while you lied night 1 than that your clone was hit night 1 while he got back a hp value and you somehow magically didn't get hit night 2.

Why would I lie N1?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:45 GMT
#6031
On December 11 2013 09:39 justanothertownie wrote:
To get people to think you are a townie afraid of being nightkilled? To get townies with KP to think you already used your protection?

That's WIFOM bullshit. Look at the thread. I was under no suspicion. What possible motivation do I have to lie at that point?

Like I'd get your point if I had cloned last night and then announced to the thread my role but I did it N1. My role has been outed since Mig said he shot me. Also, I never got a PM saying I had taken damage, the first time I learned of it was when people brought it up to me in the thread. If I hadn't cloned, I would have taken the damage. Why wouldn't I claim this damage in the thread? Why lie?

The logic path you're assuming I went on makes no sense at all.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:49 GMT
#6034
On December 11 2013 09:47 Mig wrote:
We don't know that MZ used mirror image n1. I attacked him and it gave me a result of 825 hp. I attacked him again n2 and got no result. It is possible that he didn't mirror n1, then did use mirror n2 and I got no result because I hit a clone and they didn't count.


I currently have 950 KP.

Fucking hit me again mig and confirm this.

I'm not cloning tonight so go ahead and hit me.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:52 GMT
#6037
On December 11 2013 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Even if we take "best case scenario":

Chezinu 900 damage - scum
Mig 50 damage - town
VisceraEyes 50 damage +200 - scum
raynpelikoneet 100 damage - town (ss)
Risen 325 damage - let's assume town but -100 in that case (ss)
Coagulation 50 damage - town
ticklishmusic 749 damage - scum

so town has 425 dmg + mig 150 dmg = 575 dmg.

I am pretty sure scum are at some level aware of how much KP town has.
Even if town focuses all damage on MZ, why would he use his clone? He does not even die.
Does town focus all dmg on MZ? Fuck no. This town is in no way capable of doing that even if MZ was confirmed scum rofl.

So again, why use clone on N2?

lol rayn. This defense is really stupid. When would he use it if not N2 after being the main counterwagon to the lynched townie with tons of suspicion on him? If his second ability is anything like the one he claimed that one is useless anyways. You are telling us scum has no problem taking unnecessary damage because "maybe it doesn't kill me flat out"? Besides I don't think scum was sure about the amount of damage town is able to do at night 2.

JAT.

I can't use it two nights in a row. I used it N1. As much as I would have liked to use it last night I couldn't.

Can you not see where your logic flaw is? I used it N1, look at my use in context of that time. I have NO REASON to lie then. Then N2, when it would have been a better use from a scum perspective, I can't just magically use it, BECAUSE I ALREADY USED IT.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:53 GMT
#6039
On December 11 2013 09:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 09:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Even if we take "best case scenario":

Chezinu 900 damage - scum
Mig 50 damage - town
VisceraEyes 50 damage +200 - scum
raynpelikoneet 100 damage - town (ss)
Risen 325 damage - let's assume town but -100 in that case (ss)
Coagulation 50 damage - town
ticklishmusic 749 damage - scum

so town has 425 dmg + mig 150 dmg = 575 dmg.

I am pretty sure scum are at some level aware of how much KP town has.
Even if town focuses all damage on MZ, why would he use his clone? He does not even die.
Does town focus all dmg on MZ? Fuck no. This town is in no way capable of doing that even if MZ was confirmed scum rofl.

So again, why use clone on N2?

lol rayn. This defense is really stupid. When would he use it if not N2 after being the main counterwagon to the lynched townie with tons of suspicion on him? If his second ability is anything like the one he claimed that one is useless anyways. You are telling us scum has no problem taking unnecessary damage because "maybe it doesn't kill me flat out"? Besides I don't think scum was sure about the amount of damage town is able to do at night 2.

When he has been hit so much he actually can reasonably assume town can kill him that night..

So instead he just takes the damage - no problem. Although he could prevent that? Yeah, no.

JAT

Why can't you understand this. I couldn't prevent it N2.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:57 GMT
#6045
Here's how your argument goes JAT. Using his ability N2 would have been a better scum move. Mig's ability didn't go off, MZ must have used his ability.

Great, but I can't have because I already used it. Now look back at the time I used it, it was N1, I was under zero suspicion. What possible scum motivation do I have to use it there. Mig hits me and gets the result for my clone. Great, now I have to wait a cycle to use clone again. I can't just magically have another usage because N2 would be a better time to use it BECAUSE I ALREADY USED IT.

Why would I lie N1? I can't have known what was going to happen D2, I can't go and retroactively change the past so I can use my ability again.

Finally, my ability doesn't roleblock which is what sounds like happened to mig.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#6049
On December 11 2013 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Even if we take "best case scenario":

Chezinu 900 damage - scum
Mig 50 damage - town
VisceraEyes 50 damage +200 - scum
raynpelikoneet 100 damage - town (ss)
Risen 325 damage - let's assume town but -100 in that case (ss)
Coagulation 50 damage - town
ticklishmusic 749 damage - scum

so town has 425 dmg + mig 150 dmg = 575 dmg.

I am pretty sure scum are at some level aware of how much KP town has.
Even if town focuses all damage on MZ, why would he use his clone? He does not even die.
Does town focus all dmg on MZ? Fuck no. This town is in no way capable of doing that even if MZ was confirmed scum rofl.

So again, why use clone on N2?

lol rayn. This defense is really stupid. When would he use it if not N2 after being the main counterwagon to the lynched townie with tons of suspicion on him? If his second ability is anything like the one he claimed that one is useless anyways. You are telling us scum has no problem taking unnecessary damage because "maybe it doesn't kill me flat out"? Besides I don't think scum was sure about the amount of damage town is able to do at night 2.

JAT.

I can't use it two nights in a row. I used it N1. As much as I would have liked to use it last night I couldn't.

Can you not see where your logic flaw is? I used it N1, look at my use in context of that time. I have NO REASON to lie then. Then N2, when it would have been a better use from a scum perspective, I can't just magically use it, BECAUSE I ALREADY USED IT.

No, I can't see the logic flaw and there is no way of knowing you really used it N1.

Please stop acting dumb. If I had got hit, wouldn't I have claimed it regardless of alignment? What possible reason would scum have to not talk about getting hit?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 01:01 GMT
#6054
Mig shoot me again.

Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 01:03 GMT
#6055
On December 11 2013 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 09:57 Mig wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Again, who the fuck cares if you have 900 or 700 or 600 hp as scum? When town starts consolidating all KP on one target then it might become a problem.


Rayne it isnt just about kp. His clone takes his spot for all abilities. If he was afraid of the invention or afraid of a check (not sure what a dt check would show on his clone) etc he could use the clone.


Thank you. The invention alone is enough reason to use the clone.

But I didn't know about the invention N1! I can't just magically have the clone back. How hard is this to understand. Just because you want me to have cloned N2 doesn't mean I actually can.

And also wtf, my clone is starting to sound like a superpower. Where are you seeing that it would have got me out of an alignment check because I'm missing that.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 11 2013 01:07 GMT
#6063
On December 11 2013 10:06 justanothertownie wrote:
All abilities that would have hit you hit your clone instead.
I think that includes alignment checks.

Can someone tell me why we assume mkfuba was roleblocked because his ability didn't work? If he tried to use item + ability that might have been too much. Didn't people say you could only do one thing at a time?

Hey JAT, can you define what a clone is for me?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
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