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On December 03 2013 10:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 09:51 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, I'm not sure I'm totally convinced by your townread on JonnyLaw. Not sure either any more, that's why i did not include him in the list i asked Mocsta about earlier. He just.. stopped playing after the beginning.
Yes, this is point 1. I would expect a townie to become more interested as the game went on and lynch-time came (like me :D) whereas his activity is the other way round.
Secondly is the point that sandroba kinda touched on - he asked Jonny about something, Jonny replied and sandroba commented that Jonny was just summarising the action in the filters, rather than really making alignment guesses from it.
His play feels different from his most recent game (a newbie I admit): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=JonnyLaw in a way that I can't describe very well. Like here he is more aggressive/aloof? In that game there he is prodding around and making pretty decent cases on people. Like his "case" on kush here is just... meh.
Thirdly I found it quite odd how he kept repeating his stance on gtrsrs, which was bad or lazy or scum, but "not useful to town either way" - like it seemed overdone.
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On December 03 2013 06:25 JonnyLaw wrote:
Okay, I was out all day yesterday. Two hours later I've finally caught up in the thread.
gtrs - I dont like how his filter reads but he hasn't really given us much to lynch him either. I know he's capable of playing better as town so either he's busy, lazy or scum. None of these qualities help us win the game.
Soniv - fine for now. Looks to be making an effort to push the game towards a goal.
kushmasta - Like really? This guy comes into the thread and starts calling people scum in one liners and generally shitting the place up. He replaced OWB who completely shut down and hated playing scum in NMM L. The random tooscummytobescum post irritates me as well.
The rest have longer filters and I need to evaluate them. Just reading through the last 20 pages hasn't left me with other strong feelings yet.
I'll be checking filters and around for a while.
On December 03 2013 06:35 JonnyLaw wrote:
Did you read the filters from his last games? He actually participates, reads the thread and tries to hunt scum. He's agro and pushing an agenda.
If he doesn't contribute I have no problem policy lynching him as a last resort. Until that happens I'd rather focus on people we can read since they're actually playing the game.
First of all the bolded parts seems like a contradiction. He wants to look into people who have actual content (bigger filters) but all he talks about before and after are lurkers with short filters (besides MZ).
Also it feels like he is pretty caught up and knows how much people have posted, yet he focuses on lurkers and then says he does not want to focus on lurkers but on other people.
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We definitely shouldn't be killing kurumi. He is probably town IMO.
What is the meta that marv said made gtsrs scummy?
And other good lynches?
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I literally linked the games, kush, you really need to just read the thread rather than constantly ask questions that have already been answered.
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my way is easier (for me)
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On December 03 2013 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
k ill vote johnnylaw
##Unvote
##Vote: JonnyLaw
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That's a pretty solid contradiction. Not even nit picky, it's literally saying one thing, saying you'll be doing that thing, and then doing another thing. More solid than anything I have on LBS
##unvote
##vote: JonnyLaw
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hey guys what's up. Shit sure has moved. I notice people are beginning to see the light on gtrsr which is nice, I actually didn't even realize there was a meta argument to be made since I haven't played in a while.
Still don't like LSB but again, he's a story for another day.
Still don't like geript, I will probably try and flesh out my thoughts on him since he's been a pretty hot topic.
Also really don't like kush/koshi/kurumi
Kush's entrance and subsequent actions have struck me as very strange, idk wtf kurumi is doing, and koshi is being incredibly uncooperative and honestly is reminding me of when I was scum first pick in a PYP game and had to deal with people constantly trying to make me act town.
idk if these three are scum, however their behavior is certainly cause for question in my eyes.
I had a lot to read so I could have missed significant things, if there's anything people want me to address I'm all ears, I'll just be here looking over geript and waiting for gtrsrs to get his ass back to the thread.
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I've been convinced to claim. Not having access to much of what each role can do limits the value of everyone claiming, but I hadn't considered the value of trackers when thinking about what mafia could do as far as doctor/roleblock.
I am Karma, the Enlightened One! OdinOfPergo you have no one to blame but yourself for not picking someone different. I told you not to pick her.
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I can get behind JohnnyLaw
Definitely didnt like the way he talked about me. Felt like he was trying to +1 onto bullshit.
##Vote: JohnnyLaw
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oh and then risen posts. Really don't like him, waaay to blendy and hasn't really said anything solid that sticks in my mind.
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That strange feeling when you bring up someone as a target and then get worried when people agree with you
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On December 03 2013 10:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
oh and then risen posts. Really don't like him, waaay to blendy and hasn't really said anything solid that sticks in my mind.
That's odd since I've been in an argument with DLS JSB or whatever the hell his name is.
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On December 03 2013 10:37 marvellosity wrote:
That strange feeling when you bring up someone as a target and then get worried when people agree with you
I can sympathize. I think that's more likely to be paranoia than scum jumping onto someone, though.
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MZ Koshi is probably town.
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On December 03 2013 10:37 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 10:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
oh and then risen posts. Really don't like him, waaay to blendy and hasn't really said anything solid that sticks in my mind. That's odd since I've been in an argument with DLS JSB or whatever the hell his name is.
having an argument =/= contributing.
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On December 03 2013 10:37 marvellosity wrote:
That strange feeling when you bring up someone as a target and then get worried when people agree with you
Dat feel when you make fun of Kush because of his lack of a case by joke-voting him in the thread and other people also start voting for him.
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On December 03 2013 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MZ Koshi is probably town.
He sure has a funny way of showing it. I can't think of any town motivations for picking inventor and then not cooperating.
But stranger things have happened.
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