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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 10:50 GMT
#3353
Ah wait. I copy pasted a mistake. I fixed this to the hosts in a next message so the item should work properly.

I forgot I made that mistake.

In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have the same alignment. Player Y will die.


The point of the item is to have baby go to his same alignement mother and the different alignment mother to be executed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 10:59 GMT
#3354
I am filterdiving Prome and I just remember something from catching up.

Mocsta
In GoT we had less than "2 KP". I think we had 11 damage and all players had 7 HP iirc.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 11:21 GMT
#3358
Promethelax filter dive conclusions:

First post.
Big post on geript that ends with this conclusion:
geript is probably a townie playing poorly in the early game rather than a scummer. Would not be happy lynching him d1. As he is trying to contribute. My major problem with him as a town read is conclusion A. I'm having trouble reconciling that thought process with a townie.

In this big post there are a couple things Prome say that make geript look bad. Like geript saying roles don't matter and geript saying there are 6 scums and 2KP. But if we look at the end of the post we see that Prome gives geript a towntell for his interaction with different people, him being all over the place AND his insightful and strong read on Kurumi. Which is extra townie now Kurumi flipped town imo.

Second post.
A lot of people are discussed in this post. I will quickly recap.
Supersoft: Some FoS for hinky posts.
Roffles: Lynchbait.
Koshi: Needs to shape up.
Onegu: Needs to shape up. Puts Onegu on a 4. (but I disagree on the reasons.)
VE: Prome commented on the nitpick between VE and Kush and said Kush was in his right. That's all.
gtrsrs: Prome his favorite lynch target. I will spoiler his case here.+ Show Spoiler +

On December 05 2013 01:26 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm going to the gym. when i get back i'm going to take a shower and make breakfast. if my girlfriend is still asleep and nothing comes up by that point, i'll make my case for a lynch. if she's up, my case will have to wait until probably 3pm pst today. either way i'll do my best to have a cohesive lynch case by the end of today (dec 4th)

i feel strongly about my read. if my case is strong enough to convince you to lynch my suspect, and i turn out wrong, i'd like to be lynched the next day please. i just simply don't feel strongly enough about anyone other than my target to make any conclusive assessments yet, yet i feel like you guys are putting a lot of pressure on lurkers to perform more (and rightly so). i will probably have my confidence shaken and be even more worthless if i'm wrong on this one

thanks


I'm so sorry Johhnylaw! I said you had the worst single post in the game. I lied. gtsrs has the worst post of the game (which I have read so far, there might be a hidden gem)

Breakdown of why this post is awful and makes gtsrs red on my spreadsheet (if I had one he would be anyway)
1. pre excuses lurking
2. says he will make a case on a particular individual but does not name the individual, leaving room to make a case on the town wagon leader and claiming credit for an early read.
3. pre excuses that read flipping town
4. martyrs early

all in all the above post is an attempt to do dick all. Take credit for leading a lynch. Be useless. Garner pity.

would lynch
rated a solid 4.5

MZ: Says he doesn't understand why MZ is so mad at that lovely Koshi and asks for explanation.

A pretty nice conclusion is added as well, I might have missed some things but like Prome said, you can find them yourselves:
I made a set of cases when I entered the game for Kush, JayB, LSB (less so) and geript being town while Onegu and Coag were on the scum side of null I also made cases for Johnnylaw and gtsrs being scum and half a scum case on VE in this post. My filter is short, you can find all of them.

Third post+ Show Spoiler +

On December 05 2013 08:28 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 08:03 JonnyLaw wrote:
Prome your case on me cannot ignore that early game league discussion. I was discussing with Bum the best champs to pick and ban because I thought it could help us win the game. I started this game trying to see how people play. I quickly realized that with a list of 30 players a lot of which already know each other from previous games this is difficult.

Take for example when I "called kush a weird dude" I was quickly jumped on by people saying that's how kush should be playing. He came into the thread threw out a couple reads and then posts one liners the rest of the game. That seems suspicious to me. If that's how he plays then fine.

-snip-

Why do Rean, Onegu, Coag, Kenpachi and Gtrsr all get byes for lurking?

This post is getting too long. I'll follow it up with the rest of my thoughts shortly.


so two things about this, 1 yes I can and will ignore how the thread was progressing during that time. I was not in the thread and can't analyse what the thread was doing as a whole during its organic evolution. Instead I am looking at individuals separate from the thread.

2. To the bolded (his emphasis not mine): hehehehehehehehe. I've posted on all of those players besides Kenpachi (who even knew he was in the game? Not I) and what you are doing is shouting out a list of players and begging the thread which, right now is me, VE and marv, to attacka lurker for you. Of those I find Rean townie Coag scummy Onegu so unreadble as to be worth killing and gtsrs rather townie. Now if you want the thread to pursue one of those targets who you so ineptly try to accuse of something you can make a case on them.
This post pushes you further into scum category for me. LSB is an easy target and has been talked to death, you didn't add anything to the case against him and, therefore, I do not find this case to give you townie points.

Conclusion still scummy.

I just like this entire post.

That's kinda it for now. I will revisit this filter later I think, when I get a better grip on the game.
I will now start diving people that Prome was suspicious off and work from there. Prome played pretty strong I think.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 11:38 GMT
#3362
rayn if I took damage last turn or in the next 3 turns. Are you interested in knowing it?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 11:44 GMT
#3365
On December 05 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 20:38 Koshi wrote:
rayn if I took damage last turn or in the next 3 turns. Are you interested in knowing it?

Of course. That means my power did not go through. But i am pretty sure it did.

I took 50 damage last night.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 11:46 GMT
#3367
On December 05 2013 20:45 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On December 05 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 05 2013 20:38 Koshi wrote:
rayn if I took damage last turn or in the next 3 turns. Are you interested in knowing it?

Of course. That means my power did not go through. But i am pretty sure it did.

I took 50 damage last night.

??

As in a VT hit you?

As in: I got 50 hp less than I had before.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 11:55 GMT
#3372
Cuz I am cuddly?
But I am really not lying about something as silly as this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 13:37 GMT
#3387
Pfff. I also don't think JonnyLaw is scum atm. Went twice over his filter and there is nothing really scummy. However, I feel like he types more decisive when he talks about stuff that is obvious. While his scumreads or things that would actually help town are way less decisive. Look at how certain he sounds when he talks about tryn being useless, or warwick being useless.

On December 01 2013 15:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Of course not to your last question.

What I'm saying is that warwick offers such a random attempt at something. With the bans how does ww benefit the scum anymore than other champions that deal guaranteed damage.

Your argument is preventing scum from getting champs you think are strong for them.

Look at Ziggs/twitch/eve for guaranteed damage. Then there are defensive champs for scum who already know their teammates. Warwick and trynd are just garbage imo.

Do you really expect to have scum line up for trynd in a position where we know who they are? It seems like a ridiculous pick to me.

On the other hand, warwick is incredible strong and even though we didn't know he would do 450 damage simply by guessing the hero correctly I think that the entire scumteam would have actually figured out that warwick was a good hero if they could get blues to claim. So JonnyLaw saying that ww is bad and heroes like Twitch/Eve/Ziggs are way better look more like a townie being "wrong" than a scum being deceptive.


I again read Prome and Mocsta points on JonnyLaw and I am not really convinced.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 13:48 GMT
#3390
Also, rayn can you protect me from being RB tonight?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 14:07 GMT
#3402
On December 05 2013 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:48 Koshi wrote:
Also, rayn can you protect me from being RB tonight?

It depends. I'm not saying anything yet. I need to figure out a couple of things.

It would be cool.

I am now officially looking for the most townie VT to give him a present!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 14:14 GMT
#3407
It will happen during night. It will be epic. Except when you are scum. Then you will die.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 14:54 GMT
#3429
I like austin for scum, maybe rean as well.

Austin makes a case on Rean in which he used a towngame of Rean to prove that Rean is playing completely different than in his towngames. But the game that austin uses is actually a scumgame of Rean. So either Austin is scum with Rean and made a "mistake" or Austin made a mistake for real. When Austin was pointed out that he quoted a scumgame of Rean Austin says: "but all the other things still stand".
I am watching the other points Austin raises about Rean and they aren't good at all:
1) Rean didn't want to ban Graves (I agree this is silly but is it scummy?)
2) Rean said he wanted to sheep a townie read but later didn't say who he found townie(I do this all the time D1, as town).
3) Rean trew a hissyfit about Roflles BM. (This is only scummy because Rean does nothing else)

austin is pretty weakgoing atm. Obviously if Rean is scum austin gets some credit. But atm I would lynch austin over Rean stupidly enough.
___
Rean is doing absolutely nothing this game, but is voting austin for this case on him. I don't know what Rean his gameplan is here but if Austin is scum I actually like Rean even less.
___

This is how it goes for me:
ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.

But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 15:07 GMT
#3435
On December 06 2013 00:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 23:49 sandroba wrote:
He also already knew he would be voting Rean before even looking at him. He didn't even bother to check if rean was scum in the game he used for meta. He seemed to be in a rush to justify all his reads when all of them were already fabricated. All his reasoning is bullshit. Yeah, this man is scum.


I think this post is the most compelling to me in the case against austin, tbh

I think that post is only compelling if sandroba is proved to be a mindreader.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 15:27 GMT
#3443
On December 06 2013 00:26 geript wrote:
I'm going to try and post in ~6 hours. Busy at school. Ppl need to remember to be nice. also remember my claim was twitch. I have been fed.

Jonny is twitch?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 15:37 GMT
#3445
^ I agree with this based on LXIII but I shall compare supersoft with his game in Hogwarts. Dont know if I am finished before I have to go home. We shall see. Filter dive commencing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 17:02 GMT
#3486
I think supersoft might be scum but I cannot make a case yet against him. I got something half assed made but it isn't good enough.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 17:37 GMT
#3498
FFS I had a giant case on scum supersoft and I deleted 50% of it. 50% I still have emailed to myself. Funny part is I still have the part why supersoft could be town that I figured out at the end of my case. So I am going to believe this is Gods Will and I am going to conclude supersoft is town.

Here is what is left from my case. It was pretty huge before this.
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 04 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 22:42 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 03 2013 22:40 sandroba wrote:
And that's 20min trying to think of a bullshit explanation for your post. I bet you wished you hadn't made that post bum. You sure saved me a lot of typing =).


Your reasons are pretty bad, just because I'm acting weird, doesn't mean I'm mafia. Which is pretty much what you are saying. Do you think LSB is mafia?


lol okay. I get it...
combined with the fact that he did not pick what was in his list. well... really scummy.

But i had a good feeling about him
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&currentpage=39

right there. at this point of the game, the thread was somehow not there, where i wanted him to be.
We needed the rolepicking discussion.
That discussion happened too late to coordinate the action.
Both, Bum and I came in the thread with a similar mindset. That gave me a good feeling about him.

Fact that he remembers this kinda stuff and uses it makes ss look townie to me. That and fucking up the draft numbers
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 17:39 GMT
#3500
gtrsrs DotA items > LoL items. just saying.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 17:39 GMT
#3501
You can remove "items" twice in above post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 05 2013 18:15 GMT
#3521
Onegu, you should talk with rayb about your OdinOfPergo case. rayn is Odin his mentor.

But I like your case. Way better than all those cases you make on me all the time :D

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