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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#3990
I could imagine, that the RB came from town...
The only thing that makes risen look "better" is his Karma pick.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 11:12 GMT
#3993
I ranked him as low "black" not yet red on my list because of his Karma pick - now that I think about it, it's pretty sloppy of me to let him of the hook only for his pick :-D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 11:13 GMT
#3994
On December 06 2013 20:12 Koshi wrote:
Is Risen a scum townplayer? I see him as scum just pick something that would make him look good.


yes yes yes, i am having the same thoughts.
Well Risen played in "time to die" where masons played a huge role
_and_ BC completely fooled me by masoning me and talking nicely to me.

I could imagine, that Risen wants to follow that example!!!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 11:24 GMT
#3996
btw. my current list. now with risen way down. he was right underneath oats before...

supersoft
sandroba
raynpelikoneet
marvellosity


mocsta
Mig
kushm4sta


Kenpachi/Chezinu
Koshi
Meapak_Ziphh
VisceraEyes
Oatsmaster

LSB - ??
gtrsrs - ?
ticklishmusic
jaybrundage



Roffles
Rean
Risen
Onegu
austinmcc



no really solid read:

Coagulation
JonnyLaw
geript
jcarlsoniv
OdinOfPergo
justanothertownie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 11:48 GMT
#3998
that is very true, Kosh.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#4000
On December 06 2013 20:49 Mocsta wrote:
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On December 06 2013 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2013 20:10 supersoft wrote:
I could imagine, that the RB came from town...
The only thing that makes risen look "better" is his Karma pick.

Scum probably picked a healer as well anyway. Karma has multiheal in cone form. Multiheal good for scum. Need to keep good track of all these HP/RB/etc claims for later on. So that in the end when there is lylo information can be gathered easily.
If scum picked a healer, do you think they would be brazen enough to admit it + claim the heal?


On December 03 2013 10:35 Risen wrote:
I've been convinced to claim. Not having access to much of what each role can do limits the value of everyone claiming, but I hadn't considered the value of trackers when thinking about what mafia could do as far as doctor/roleblock.

I am Karma, the Enlightened One! OdinOfPergo you have no one to blame but yourself for not picking someone different. I told you not to pick her.


this is his claim. under these circumstances.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 12:39 GMT
#4004
1. MZ, VE, LBS ans esp. BC are skilled and not very high on my list.
2. the fact that only really skilled players are green is that they are in fact skilled in playing well as town and therefor easier to read.
3. Thoughts on risen?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 13:03 GMT
#4006
do you mind sharing your idea about lbs, because i have a different read on him.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 13:06 GMT
#4008
On December 06 2013 22:03 kushm4sta wrote:
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On December 06 2013 18:36 supersoft wrote:
On December 04 2013 11:52 austinmcc wrote:
On December 04 2013 11:51 Rean wrote:
On December 04 2013 11:49 austinmcc wrote:
On December 04 2013 11:43 Rean wrote:
Austin, can I ask you something?
Yar.


Are you mafia?
Nope. I ain't even korean.


insecure.




HUH?


i he jokes poorly about his alignment.
Q: are you scum?
A: i am not even korean

i sense insecurity.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 15:41 GMT
#4088
On December 06 2013 23:37 austinmcc wrote:
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On December 06 2013 18:36 supersoft wrote:
On December 02 2013 09:03 austinmcc wrote:
Mass claiming requires everybody to cooperate, and has no way of determining whether mafia didn't cooperate with something or stubborn/fun-seeking townies didn't. Look at crap like people always wanting inventor, or wanting a specific champ this time around (there have been a couple "i'm picking my favorite champs"). Also, it's close to deadline and you won't get everyone to post/agree.

I think it's a fine plan but not in this situation. It's great in theory but in practice it is so horribly likely to work like the optimal case, and the main reason for that is that people are people and not that mafia will twirl their moustaches and screw up the plan.


austin, do you think a post like this helps the town? Do you think it makes sense to post this as scum?

On December 04 2013 11:52 austinmcc wrote:
On December 04 2013 11:51 Rean wrote:
On December 04 2013 11:49 austinmcc wrote:
On December 04 2013 11:43 Rean wrote:
Austin, can I ask you something?
Yar.


Are you mafia?
Nope. I ain't even korean.


insecure.


I think that when I'm absent, I should post thoughts. There are thoughts on a mass claim plan. Always proposed, never carried out. Do you think my sentiments in that post seem legit? I think it makes sense to post thoughts on mass claiming as either alignment, so yeah, makes as much sense as scum as it does as town.


Insecure? Please. I can handle that dude all day. Oh. -ure, not insec. Nope. If someone is going to "can i ask you something" WITH A SMILEY, and then ask "are you mafia?", I'm not just going to say "No." Gotta have a little fun back. Also, still not korean.


AAAAAH, okay sorry Austin. I completely misunderstood that "i am not even korean"
I just realized, that SK is a korean team. nvm. i didnt drew the line from scum over SK to korean.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 15:54 GMT
#4105
On December 06 2013 23:51 ticklishmusic wrote:
Damn everyone has different reads, time to put all this shit together to try a pattern or some sort of deviation.

Super care to explain your read on me?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=ticklishmusic
short filter.

On December 01 2013 03:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
So I'm noob to TL mafia, but shouldn't we be focusing more on bans than discussing "omg this vet behavior must be scum"?

I agree with whoever said that we should probably just not ban Graves/ Talon/ obvious mafia roles and just lynch people who pick them. There are a couple combos for Mafia that are pretty nasty that we should bust though, like the Ashe + WW that was mentioned.

So in any case, I'll:

## unvote
## vote ashe


for now


On December 03 2013 16:11 ticklishmusic wrote:
And another cuz I need to boost dat post count

Its like 3AM and Im going to bed. I'm new to TL Mafia, so I need to do a lot of background reading for past games instead of just clogging the thread with random stuff like I do in the TLLOLOTT so I'll be posting pretty infrequently. Might ramp up if 1. I don't die and 2. I get the hang of this filter thing.


where are the results from this backgroundreading besides some half assed things regarding kush?

On December 04 2013 04:03 ticklishmusic wrote:
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On December 04 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So ticklishmusic do you mind explaining how you took 2 days to go through my old games but forgot to send in draft numbers? Why did you not prioritize that over reading someone you had never commented on before in the game? Actually why did you priorizise ANYTHING over picking draft numbers because that was the most important thing to do on D0?


at first it was because i was new to this kind of mafia and didn't understand 100% how everything worked. and then it was kind of that i was too lazy to strategically plan out what place i wanted, because i didn't actually care all that much about what champ i got. since it was the end-ish of thanksgiving break for me, i've also been travelling around a lot-- i've been ramping up my posting and reading a lot more since.

i have never played a mafia game this complicated (to clarify because i'm sure you're going to grill me on this, i've played a lot of more traditional mafia before) so i would have been perfectly fine with being vanilla townie/mafia/doctor/whatever straightforward role so i could focus on just analysis.

/shrug


your recent stuff looks much better though. My read on you is outdated.

On December 06 2013 16:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
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On December 06 2013 16:02 geript wrote:
Chez I'll get back to you in the afternoon when I have time to actually read lots of stuff. I want to read Onegu and his case again. And ticklish. LIke i really like that post of his, but it's a weird delurk then lurk.


My activity is spotty, but I'm definitely posting more casually and frequently as the game goes on and I get more comfortable. I'm also becoming slightly more invested with every post I make.


you actually said that yourself.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 16:37 GMT
#4142
On December 07 2013 01:36 Roffles wrote:
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On December 07 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
where's your vote on Roffles, Roffles?

If it makes you happy, I'll vote for myself.

Back to stealth.


wtf.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 16:38 GMT
#4143
On December 07 2013 01:37 supersoft wrote:
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On December 07 2013 01:36 Roffles wrote:
On December 07 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
where's your vote on Roffles, Roffles?

If it makes you happy, I'll vote for myself.

Back to stealth.


wtf.


let me get this straight. You think if you just act way too scummy you may survive?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 17:09 GMT
#4161
On December 07 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so one of MZ & Mig is lying here most likely.
JonnyLaw how much HP do you have?


I just wanted to ask the same question...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 17:17 GMT
#4166
you hadn't had the most impressive impact on the game so far, MZ...
Why not use the abilitie n3-n4?!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 17:18 GMT
#4168
On December 07 2013 02:17 LSB wrote:
@Chezinu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&currentpage=183#3658. There are many things we can bank on, yet with conflict and strife our only recourse, it is better to make peace and learn.

@Roffles, this is just straight up ridiculous, do you actually intend to play this game?

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On December 07 2013 01:34 sandroba wrote:
OK some things need to be clarified:

Mig claims to hit MZ with 125dmg and his ability returned 875hp left.
MZ claims he took no dmg. Do you have 875hp left?
Chez says correctly that Mig is Cho. He says that Mig targeted JL. JL, do you have 875hp left?
Mkfuba hints that Mig didn't hit JL, I read that as Mkfuba hit JL himself.

So probably someone is lying here. Please come forth with this information.

Also austin, I can't get past the post I quoted from the beginning. I would like a claim from you. And from MZ too. A lot of people have come forth with their night actions and claims. A lot of good town roles are already out there. I don't understand why some of you are being so secretive.

I would also like this cleared up. Meepak or JohnnyLaw, do you have 875 hp?


Jonny has nothing to do with the MZ/mig action...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 17:23 GMT
#4173
On December 07 2013 02:19 sandroba wrote:
Also fuck this game. And fuck whoever is scum, you are too good or simply not playing the game. I'm considering lynching Mig unless he tells gives me a case on scum. Day 1 he did a pretty good post on bum which I was already going for and was town. I want to see something original from Mig, it's about time.


you screw up my plan to let mig himself confirm to be scum :-o
I wanted to comfort him and see if he starts doing stuff without pressure... This strategy totally works on you/syllo/palmar/marv/mig
:-o
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 17:29 GMT
#4178
On December 07 2013 02:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On December 07 2013 02:13 sandroba wrote:
On December 07 2013 02:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
@sandroba: no I have 950, where did Mig claim I had 875? Something is definitely odd here, unless WoS forgot to send me a PM mig is lying or someone completely messed with his ability.

Like I decoy'd, there is zero way I could have gotten hit with kp at all. I didn't realize mig claimed he knew my health otherwise I would have brought this up sooner. I can't quote my PM but what's in the OP is accurate. I got no PMs about anything last night.

@geript, 7-6 is my record with wukong lol

Actually mig claimed 825, so he hit your decoy for 125 and it came back 825, makes sense. I wonder why you don't seem concerned at all about Mig hitting you or being scum? Also what thought process did you go through when deciding to use your ability night 1?

I wasn't PM'd at all about this so I assumed it missed me. I guess my lack of reaction comes from the fact that I was never notified I was hit and didn't really realize what happened until just now when I went back to confirm the numbers that you mentioned. I haven't given Mig much thought this game and when I filtered him just now I don't think his shot is really alignment indicative either way. Like it's marginally protown he claimed his kp but I found his reasons to be really weak, especially since he never mentioned me until after his shot.

Perhaps I'm flattering myself but I thought I fell into a category of likely to get hit because I wasn't likely to get protection so I decoy'd then. I doubt I'll get hit tonight given the suspicion on me and I still have one more use so I don't think a N1 decoy was bad at all.


Ok. given, that usually in games of this size n1 is a slaughter I accept this explanation.
Somehow only one guy died and I am still confused what happened to all the scumKP.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 17:34 GMT
#4183
On December 07 2013 02:27 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 02:23 supersoft wrote:
On December 07 2013 02:19 sandroba wrote:
Also fuck this game. And fuck whoever is scum, you are too good or simply not playing the game. I'm considering lynching Mig unless he tells gives me a case on scum. Day 1 he did a pretty good post on bum which I was already going for and was town. I want to see something original from Mig, it's about time.


you screw up my plan to let mig himself confirm to be scum :-o
I wanted to comfort him and see if he starts doing stuff without pressure... This strategy totally works on you/syllo/palmar/marv/mig
:-o

I'm getting really annoyed that this thread doesn't get anywhere and there's 100 pages of pure trash.


I got used to it while playing time-to-die:

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 19 2013 00:04 supersoft wrote:
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On November 18 2013 23:54 OOHCHILD wrote:
gratz you guys have successfully made it nearly impossible for anyone but yourselves to read the whole game. well done.
there's literally no way BC is going to have the time to catch up, and it's way harder to read someone who doesn't read.

So please rayne koshi artanis everyone knows you are all town. Stfu and let other people talk please, and if you have something to say, CONSOLIDATE your thoughts.


rayn has 17 filterpages. i have 7 and I am talking a lot.

On November 19 2013 05:10 supersoft wrote:
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On November 19 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is supersoft doing nothing and not even reading the thread?


I am going to report you. You asked me this TWICE now. TWICE! in only a few minutes. I haven't read any filters yet. I have a life and I don't spend 24 hours in this thread posting oneliners. Your filter is unreadable. Your filter has the length of an average newbiegame.
I read my filters yesterday evening for about 2 hours of my valuable time. I came up with mocsta as my final lynchtarget and in the night i read through filters and found Oatsmaster, who i am highly suspicious of.
I am creating more useful stuff than anyone else here. I am organising the game.
Look what I did at the end of d1. Everyone was analysing and we had a PERFECT town atmosphere. Now look what you did to the thread! It's a MESS!
Think about that! please!
I am going to read through BH and others. But not when you expect me to.

On November 20 2013 03:36 supersoft wrote:
every second post is from rayn.

On November 20 2013 06:22 supersoft wrote:
This game is almost unreadable. I just skimmed through the last 20 pages and there is no content. It's just a huge monologue of rayn. I have to think about that. Maybe i'll do it in my next scumgame.
WAIT! I already did that in one of my scumgames. Because if you cripple the thread for like 3 days or so, everyone loses interest = easy scumwin.

On November 20 2013 06:24 supersoft wrote:
who do you think reads all this? Man I am not a native speaker. Do you know how insane this is for me?

On November 20 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:
15% of the thread is you. You are 15% of the thread. And you provoke these endless dialogues with other people. I think 40% of the game is now you talking to someone else.
This is just madness. It doesn't help at all.
If I were scum, I'd just talk to you for 10 pages from every now and then. It is that easy.

On November 20 2013 06:30 supersoft wrote:
we have to kill rayn. He won't shut up otherwise.
He's delivering everyone the excuse to not read the game. And I can't blame anyone for it.



I guess that's the new shit around here.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 06 2013 17:35 GMT
#4184
On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone

I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum?


according to his most recent list, you are scum.
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