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On December 04 2013 11:55 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 11:52 austinmcc wrote:On December 04 2013 11:51 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 11:49 austinmcc wrote:On December 04 2013 11:43 Rean wrote:Austin, can I ask you something?  Yar. Are you mafia? Nope. I ain't even korean. And I was so hoping you'd be town. Sigh.
This means it took you quite long to come to your conclusion.
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On December 05 2013 07:36 Rean wrote:
Someone just did 225 HP damage to me D: how uncivilized.
That's quick...
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On December 05 2013 07:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 11:55 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 11:52 austinmcc wrote:On December 04 2013 11:51 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 11:49 austinmcc wrote:On December 04 2013 11:43 Rean wrote:Austin, can I ask you something? Yar. Are you mafia? Nope. I ain't even korean. And I was so hoping you'd be town. Sigh. This means it took you quite long to come to your conclusion.
I take that back. I got confused by the time stamps. Still you had to have a scumread on him to ask this question or are you telling me your read is based only on this trolly answer? I mean you have to know somehow hat he told you a lie.
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Hm, ok Prome. What you forgot to mention is that Rean was here most of the time and commented only on non game relevant things (almost instantly when they happened) but still claimed to not read the thread and excused himself like that. Reads to me like he is afraid to say something he can be hold responsible for in the long run - why hold back like that as town if he doesn't care how he looks anyways? But I get the feeling that points towards town for you too. If all those pople are town - how do we win this game?
Yeah, I gave you many +1s. I dont deny that. If I had seen something I really really disagree with I would have said it before you had to ask me to comment.
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On December 05 2013 08:52 sandroba wrote:
If by some chance I get killed tonight I would like to leave my best guesses for scum. I'll be more thourough if I survive.
supersoft
austinmcc
kenpachi
JonnyLaw
(Meapak)
LSB might be sk if there is one present.
cheers.
Why would he be SK?
Apart from that I like this list.
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On December 05 2013 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:45 geript wrote:On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions. So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent. I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS! First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that. Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing). I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case. Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises. I would actually be very surprised if people on the scum team were non-SKT. This whole game is built on flavor and following the structure of the League-atmosphere. It would just seem odd if they made this whole setup that SKT are the bad guys, and then make some SKT members non-scum.
In the recent Hogwarts game Harry Potter was scum. I wouldn't put to much weight on stuff like that.
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On December 05 2013 09:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 09:53 justanothertownie wrote:On December 05 2013 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 05 2013 09:45 geript wrote:On December 05 2013 09:32 Promethelax wrote:On December 05 2013 09:28 geript wrote:
Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch. Why is that a good idea? There are a million hidden powers and it seems likely that at least one of them is also related to names/champions. So far from what I've gathered the hidden powers are mostly OPG abilities (mine is Spray and Pray). I don't mind risking triggering a OPG ability because it's not going to be consistent. I liked you explanation for NO BANS! so explain why we need FULL CLAIMS! First off, Accountability. If abilities are used, we should know about it. Second, it gives us a ton of information about what people's mindset was and is. Third, people who roleplayed their player are more likely to be town IMO so for people who have lesser content it provides another potential way to evaluate them. Fourth, it makes scum guess who's chosen what. Fifth, at least a few people have claimed to have picked a champion based on their player; this gives us a way to check that. Part of the reason for me coming out is because 1: It's night and 2: the fact that very few people claimed VT and that even fewer VT's claimed what they tried to take made me a bit suspicious because nobody claimed wanting to grab Twitch (mass damage seems like a pro-scum/3P thing). I want to be very clear. I don't think that people with SKT players are necessarily scum just like I don't think that people with non-SKT names aren't necessarily scum. I'm betting that WoS and Kita mixed that up some both according to flavor and also provided other players to scum to use just in case. Either way I gotta head to work. I'll try and read at work but no promises. I would actually be very surprised if people on the scum team were non-SKT. This whole game is built on flavor and following the structure of the League-atmosphere. It would just seem odd if they made this whole setup that SKT are the bad guys, and then make some SKT members non-scum. In the recent Hogwarts game Harry Potter was scum. I wouldn't put to much weight on stuff like that. Of course he was. He's British right? 
No comment^^
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On December 05 2013 13:58 Rean wrote:
@Rayn, I "shot" (50 KP is barely worthy of that term when people have over fifteen times the hp) Austinmcc for his filter, not my question. His filter is full of reads but at no point did I get the impression that he's actually trying to get people lynched rather than just giving out reads on anything he can find.
You claimed you got your scumread on austin after your question to him. Since then he did almost nothing if I am not mistaken. How did you shoot him for his filter then and if you had a scumread before the lynch - why did you not try to get him lynched? Something doesn't add up here.
On December 05 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh my, it sounds a lot like you are using a dead townies read to push a mislynch Mocsta.
I had the same feeling to be honest. Maybe that's because Mocsta doesn't argue with the points Prome made but only with the fact that he did attack Jonny and is dead.
On December 05 2013 14:14 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Actually wait, You guys are moving fast but when was it implied that VE used his binding light over Lux Cannon
? You can just quote/gimme a page number but I just checked his filter and didn't see him imply that he checked anyone.
Did VE claim the name of his second ability somewhere? Sorry, I am too lazy to look that up atm.
On December 05 2013 14:51 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 14:46 kushm4sta wrote:
@rean i want to try to save you from the noose.
please explain why you are trolling. dig down deep and describe where this trolling is coming from all of a sudden, because you didn't start out the game with the intention of being a troll it looks like. I wouldn't say I have been trolling with my latest posts. D1/early N1 I wasn't taking it very seriously, mainly out of annoyance that in a game with so many cool roles I got stuck with something that's next to useless. But I think I'm doing fairly decently now, explaining who I think is scum and why.
You are not doing fairly decently as far as I am concerned. But at least you posted something by now.
On December 05 2013 14:56 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
IM SORRY CHEZINU.
Yeah where has Mig been all game?
LSB left him off his lists, btw.
Sounds interesting at first until you realize that's not the only thing missing on that list. It is a poorly made list.
On December 05 2013 16:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another 20 posts of Rean and still no reads besides "austin gave reads and didn't want to follow them up".
This dude has one read in a 31 player game after over 100 hours of gameplay. scum.
Votes on him plz.
The problem is the following:
I think Prome has a point about this guy. I have a hard time believing scum would be so bold to not only play like this but even defend this idiotic approach to the game. I guess I would prefer it if we direct town KP on him until he either dies or shapes up. I am not convinced that he is the lynch we want D2.
Even if you disagree I would urge you to look elsewhere too because you seem quite tunneled and reduced on this Rean thing. I also don't really understand your read on Jonny but I admit I have not looked closer at him in a while. Will do so in the evening.
Will be back in ~ 3-4 hours I think.
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On December 05 2013 23:54 Koshi wrote:
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This is how it goes for me:
ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.
But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched.
I see where you are coming from but I don't really get your conclusion. Rean is obviously scum to you in every possible scenario so why lynch austin over him?
I would lynch austin over rean too but that is because I think it is more likely that rean is antitown town than scum and I would lynch rean mainly on policy right now.
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I am ok with shooting rean/lynching austin like I said.
##Vote: austinmcc
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On December 06 2013 02:49 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 02:37 Koshi wrote:FFS I had a giant case on scum supersoft and I deleted 50% of it. 50% I still have emailed to myself. Funny part is I still have the part why supersoft could be town that I figured out at the end of my case. So I am going to believe this is Gods Will and I am going to conclude supersoft is town. Here is what is left from my case. It was pretty huge before this. + Show Spoiler +On December 04 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 22:42 bumatlarge wrote:On December 03 2013 22:40 sandroba wrote:
And that's 20min trying to think of a bullshit explanation for your post. I bet you wished you hadn't made that post bum. You sure saved me a lot of typing =). Your reasons are pretty bad, just because I'm acting weird, doesn't mean I'm mafia. Which is pretty much what you are saying. Do you think LSB is mafia? lol okay. I get it... combined with the fact that he did not pick what was in his list. well... really scummy. But i had a good feeling about himhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=39right there. at this point of the game, the thread was somehow not there, where i wanted him to be. We needed the rolepicking discussion. That discussion happened too late to coordinate the action. Both, Bum and I came in the thread with a similar mindset. That gave me a good feeling about him. Fact that he remembers this kinda stuff and uses it makes ss look townie to me. That and fucking up the draft numbers :D I laughed pretty hard. Actually i started thinking about this game and balancewise Onegu should be scum... I have a strong townread on sandroba and marv. Mig looks solid. VE and MZ are 50/50.
I like this post except for the balance speculation.
I like Onegus case too. Good thing I decided not to pick that role btw - I had thought about that.
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On December 06 2013 02:52 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 02:49 supersoft wrote:On December 06 2013 02:37 Koshi wrote:FFS I had a giant case on scum supersoft and I deleted 50% of it. 50% I still have emailed to myself. Funny part is I still have the part why supersoft could be town that I figured out at the end of my case. So I am going to believe this is Gods Will and I am going to conclude supersoft is town. Here is what is left from my case. It was pretty huge before this. + Show Spoiler +On December 04 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 22:42 bumatlarge wrote:On December 03 2013 22:40 sandroba wrote:
And that's 20min trying to think of a bullshit explanation for your post. I bet you wished you hadn't made that post bum. You sure saved me a lot of typing =). Your reasons are pretty bad, just because I'm acting weird, doesn't mean I'm mafia. Which is pretty much what you are saying. Do you think LSB is mafia? lol okay. I get it... combined with the fact that he did not pick what was in his list. well... really scummy. But i had a good feeling about himhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=39right there. at this point of the game, the thread was somehow not there, where i wanted him to be. We needed the rolepicking discussion. That discussion happened too late to coordinate the action. Both, Bum and I came in the thread with a similar mindset. That gave me a good feeling about him. Fact that he remembers this kinda stuff and uses it makes ss look townie to me. That and fucking up the draft numbers :D I laughed pretty hard. Actually i started thinking about this game and balancewise Onegu should be scum... I have a strong townread on sandroba and marv. Mig looks solid. VE and MZ are 50/50. Huh balancewise I should be scum? How do you get that?
I guess he is speculating about some kind of vet balance.
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On December 06 2013 02:55 supersoft wrote:
I haven't read anything from Onegu so far. It doesn't really matter. I believe these games are kinf of balanced. The nightkills were terrible sandroba and Marv survived. The fact that they killed Prom means that there is someone on their team who respects proms skills.
To be fair Prom had a very strong entrance and established himself well. Even though i am convinced that sandroba and marv should have been primary targets if any of the players I listed are on the scumteam.
+ There has to be one or two of the listed players in the scumteam.
Hm, I thought the Prome kill was smart. He really made an impact and Sandro wasn't as convincing as he is now (to me at least). The only good target besides Prome was marv and people were directing docs on him. Maybe Promes reads were better too.
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On December 06 2013 02:58 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:On December 06 2013 02:49 supersoft wrote:On December 06 2013 02:37 Koshi wrote:FFS I had a giant case on scum supersoft and I deleted 50% of it. 50% I still have emailed to myself. Funny part is I still have the part why supersoft could be town that I figured out at the end of my case. So I am going to believe this is Gods Will and I am going to conclude supersoft is town. Here is what is left from my case. It was pretty huge before this. + Show Spoiler +On December 04 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 22:42 bumatlarge wrote:On December 03 2013 22:40 sandroba wrote:
And that's 20min trying to think of a bullshit explanation for your post. I bet you wished you hadn't made that post bum. You sure saved me a lot of typing =). Your reasons are pretty bad, just because I'm acting weird, doesn't mean I'm mafia. Which is pretty much what you are saying. Do you think LSB is mafia? lol okay. I get it... combined with the fact that he did not pick what was in his list. well... really scummy. But i had a good feeling about himhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=39right there. at this point of the game, the thread was somehow not there, where i wanted him to be. We needed the rolepicking discussion. That discussion happened too late to coordinate the action. Both, Bum and I came in the thread with a similar mindset. That gave me a good feeling about him. Fact that he remembers this kinda stuff and uses it makes ss look townie to me. That and fucking up the draft numbers :D I laughed pretty hard. Actually i started thinking about this game and balancewise Onegu should be scum... I have a strong townread on sandroba and marv. Mig looks solid. VE and MZ are 50/50. I like this post except for the balance speculation. I like Onegus case too. Good thing I decided not to pick that role btw - I had thought about that. what do you not like about it? Do you disagree with my reads on these players? the question is how does LBS fit in this sheme now that bum flipped town. What sandroba posted earlier about their relation makes a lot of sense and changed my view on LBS quite a bit...
Hm? I said I liked it?!
I am just not a fan of your vet-balance-theory.
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On December 06 2013 03:03 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:On December 06 2013 02:58 supersoft wrote:On December 06 2013 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:On December 06 2013 02:49 supersoft wrote:On December 06 2013 02:37 Koshi wrote:FFS I had a giant case on scum supersoft and I deleted 50% of it. 50% I still have emailed to myself. Funny part is I still have the part why supersoft could be town that I figured out at the end of my case. So I am going to believe this is Gods Will and I am going to conclude supersoft is town. Here is what is left from my case. It was pretty huge before this. + Show Spoiler +On December 04 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 22:42 bumatlarge wrote:On December 03 2013 22:40 sandroba wrote:
And that's 20min trying to think of a bullshit explanation for your post. I bet you wished you hadn't made that post bum. You sure saved me a lot of typing =). Your reasons are pretty bad, just because I'm acting weird, doesn't mean I'm mafia. Which is pretty much what you are saying. Do you think LSB is mafia? lol okay. I get it... combined with the fact that he did not pick what was in his list. well... really scummy. But i had a good feeling about himhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=39right there. at this point of the game, the thread was somehow not there, where i wanted him to be. We needed the rolepicking discussion. That discussion happened too late to coordinate the action. Both, Bum and I came in the thread with a similar mindset. That gave me a good feeling about him. Fact that he remembers this kinda stuff and uses it makes ss look townie to me. That and fucking up the draft numbers :D I laughed pretty hard. Actually i started thinking about this game and balancewise Onegu should be scum... I have a strong townread on sandroba and marv. Mig looks solid. VE and MZ are 50/50. I like this post except for the balance speculation. I like Onegus case too. Good thing I decided not to pick that role btw - I had thought about that. what do you not like about it? Do you disagree with my reads on these players? the question is how does LBS fit in this sheme now that bum flipped town. What sandroba posted earlier about their relation makes a lot of sense and changed my view on LBS quite a bit... Hm? I said I liked it?! I am just not a fan of your vet-balance-theory. the post only contains the vet-balance-theory :D
Nope, it contains your reads on the vets as far as I can see?
Rean, the reason people want to kill you is exactly this attitude.
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On December 06 2013 03:37 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 06 2013 03:02 Rean wrote:On December 06 2013 02:34 sandroba wrote:
@mig
I know it's reaching, that's why I'm pushing austin instead of rean. But his comment on me being town because of my kha'six comment, the austin vote on rean - posting a wrong meta comparison, then rean decides austin is scum today, toghether with the fact that I said kha'six would be taken high by scum and rean delayed a lot to say who he chose all fit together so nice. Seems like a silly bus / fake grudge between those two. So, lemme get this straight: I was the one who originally called Austin scum when he was under no real pressure, even being included on town lists by some people, and you think I was bussing? That my entire gameplan as scum is to do nothing useful except for bussing a teammate that was under no actual suspicion? And I claimed my VTness immediatly after the nightpost. I waited with saying who I picked incase someone below me would try to claim Lux, but VE ended up claiming it and I came forward with what I tried to pick. I like how most of the people accusing me here are just saying "omg rean so useless kill him doesnt matter if scum cus useless anyway lol". Brilliant reasoning, guys. The only one trying to think beyond that is Sandroba who pulled out a conspiracy that'd make the 9-11 conspirators proud. Gonna go back to being useless now because apparently you guys just want to kill me even if I do find you scum. Why are you so defensive? Your scumread is getting lynched. Correct me if I'm wrong but willingly allowing yourself to be shot/lynched as town to prove a point is going against your win condition. Though I suppose with your play in BttB you probably don't agree on that.
Jesus dude, stop the cheap shots. If you want to avoid being killed convincing people is the right way. Go useless again ist not.
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On December 06 2013 03:44 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:34 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:31 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:31 supersoft wrote:
I have no idea how these inventions work, but wasn't kosh supposed to build this listchecker? Not allwoed in any form. On December 05 2013 18:31 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:28 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:27 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:26 Koshi wrote:
No it's a crown. It's great to be King! I'm Like a Lion but Ghost-like. I might want to make an item that fits you later. Did you make something last night? Yes. Don't you know I see all. You did not make anything. *tisk tisk* If rayn is willing to give you protection, then we may need to look more into you. Rayn doesn't support the good guys, at least from my experience last game. Why you gotz to lie? Why did rayn have to lie? Why did Mig have to be sick! Pretty sure I made something and the hosts confirmed it in the Daypost. The invention of The Crown of Solomon was not by your ability. I see you claim to have taken 50 damage.. interestingly poor choice... Do you think rayn is that slow?
Huh?
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Well this is interesting oO
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I am catching up right now. Open for discussion for a while.
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On December 06 2013 23:03 kushm4sta wrote:
just changed my mind and i have austin as town now.
I am on page 186 and if he continues like that I think you are right about him.
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