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On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep.
+1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators.
However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that.
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On December 04 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if he thought Bum was scum, why was his first thought one of night-actions rather than making a case to get him lynched Sand? If you can answer me that, then I'll move my vote.
I voted and began my case against Bum before threatening to kill him with my night-actions should he not be lynched...
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On December 04 2013 06:49 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.>
I'll PM GM About it.
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On December 04 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:48 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if he thought Bum was scum, why was his first thought one of night-actions rather than making a case to get him lynched Sand? If you can answer me that, then I'll move my vote. I voted and began my case against Bum before threatening to kill him with my night-actions should he not be lynched... But you never ever like, campaigned to get him lynched or even mentioned trying to get him lynched. Your analysis of him literally ended with "So I'm gonna use my power on him tonight". See? Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 11:44 bumatlarge wrote:On December 03 2013 11:36 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH POLICY LYNCH ME ^Paraphrased. Honestly Bumatlarge is following the basic plan I used as SK from PYP3, first get an idea of where everyone is who can kill you and try to grab an ability that will make it so you cant get killed by mafia, while all the time trying to convince everyone that I have a different ability. "This would have been better for town" was the exact same reasoning I used to try to convince town I wasn't SK in PYP3. I'm sticking to my policy lynch plan. I'm thinking Bumatlarge is SK and grabbed a defensive role as a way to make sure he stays alive. I'm going to pin him as "not town". Deviation from your own plan is pretty scummy since a plan requires as much players to follow it as possible. I'm the SK that might be in the game now? jcarlsoniv must be something juicy. Never said anything about SK, just said not town. Good enough for me to try to drop da hammer. My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer You mentioned lynching him one other time, and it wasn't because you thought he was scum or SK, you mentioned it as a policy vote. Literally.
I'm just going to quote the two posts I made before that post
On December 03 2013 03:56 LSB wrote:
Lastly I'm going to policy vote Bum for not following through with what he was pushing. Just for a point of reference in PYP2 (i think), I was SK and I pushed heavily a plan, and I deviated from it as a way to attempt to make sure I was invincible.
##Vote: Bumatlarge
On December 03 2013 11:36 LSB wrote:^Paraphrased. Honestly Bumatlarge is following the basic plan I used as SK from PYP3, first get an idea of where everyone is who can kill you and try to grab an ability that will make it so you cant get killed by mafia, while all the time trying to convince everyone that I have a different ability. "This would have been better for town" was the exact same reasoning I used to try to convince town I wasn't SK in PYP3. I'm sticking to my policy lynch plan. I'm thinking Bumatlarge is SK and grabbed a defensive role as a way to make sure he stays alive. I'm going to pin him as "not town". Deviation from your own plan is pretty scummy since a plan requires as much players to follow it as possible.
I bolded the important part.
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On December 04 2013 06:56 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:49 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.> Really rean, I think you are reading too much into that Roffles comment. I guess it's ambiguous, but when I read it I thought he meant kill yourself in game, i.e. use abilities to kill yourself and didn't find it that outrageous.
Let's just leave this issue for now please. This is now up for Roffles/The Host/The Mods to resolve and not us.
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Hahaha great poem Bum, though I'm a little confused by how you expect there to be 6 mafia and 3 sks in this setup
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What is happening to this game in general?
Kurumi is requested a self modkill, people have been telling each other to die, and there has been enough flame to warrant outside observers stepping in.
I didn't get enough sleep last night so I'm just going to post some setup reference posts before the night post happens and deal with scumhunting tomorrow after I get some sleep
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Role Eliminated - Warwick
Night 1 Positions- jcarlsoniv - Soft Blue claim, cannot deal damage
- kushm4sta
- Rean - Lux-> VT
- JonnyLaw
- ticklishmusic - Taric
- gtrsrs - Kha'Zix -> VT
- OdinOfPergo - Karma -> VT
- Roffles
- Onegu - Soft Blue Claim, probably a power role. Claim was done by BC
- VisceraEyes - Lux
- Risen - Karma
- Kenpachi - Blue Claim
- Coagulation
- geript - Warwick? -> VT?
- Promethelax
- supersoft
- austinmcc
- raynpelikoneet - Shen
- Mig
- Mocsta -No claim -> VT
- Oatsmaster - Cho'Gath ->VT
- jaybrundage - Ezreal?
- LSB
- Koshi - Viktor
- marvellosity - Blue Claim
- justanothertownie
- sandroba - Fiora
- Meapak_Ziphh
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On December 05 2013 07:36 Rean wrote:
Someone just did 225 HP damage to me D: how uncivilized.
All I can see that did that is Annie
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I will begin to start posting now. Please be patient as I catch up.
Consolidated Night 1 Action Post
Roles in the Game - Annie
Role Eliminated - Warwick, Kha’Zix
Night Positional Shift
Either Mocsta moved up one space, or Mig Moved down 1 space
Night 1 Positions- jcarlsoniv - Soft Blue claim, cannot deal damage
- kushm4sta
- Rean - Lux-> VT
- JonnyLaw - 125 Damage
- ticklishmusic - Taric
- gtrsrs - Kha'Zix -> VT
- OdinOfPergo - Karma -> VT
- Roffles
- Onegu - Soft Blue Claim, probably a power role. Claim was done by BC
- VisceraEyes - Lux - 250 damage
- Risen - Karma - Roleblocked
- Chezinu - Blue Claim
- Coagulation
- geript - Warwick? -> VT?
- supersoft
- austinmcc
- raynpelikoneet - Shen - Roleblocked
- Mocsta -No claim -> VT
- Mig -Cho'Gath- 100 Damage
- Oatsmaster - Cho'Gath ->VT
- jaybrundage - Ezreal?
- LSB
- Koshi - Viktor - 50 Damage
- mkfuba07- Blue Claim
- justanothertownie
- sandroba - Fiora - Took 1 Damage
- Meapak_Ziphh
Claimed Night actions
Rean -> 50 Damage to Austinmcc
Mig -> 125 Damage to Meepak, Bused to JonnyLaw
Random responses
On December 05 2013 17:40 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 17:30 kushm4sta wrote:
im talking about rean not chez..
also if you read rean's more recent content, it's not half bad. Sure austin is his primary scumread, but he is trying to figure out the alignments of other players he finds suspicious.
/harddefense I need someone to talk to cause the Third Party and Mafia are not getting along. It is town's job to pit them against each other. Hear me Outcasts. I know many of you feel abandon or peaceful solitude. Just know, the more scum you kill. The more protection you obtain. That's right. I'm no detective, but I got abilities that far out match many that have claimed before me. I am Analyst and ... well that's a secret. LSB, What do you have to say?
Are you Kassadin? Then again I don't think Kassadin can be as powerful as you claim. I think you are just playing standard chez
On December 06 2013 00:17 Mocsta wrote:
<b>JCarl</b>
Did you take dmg over night?
I'm wondering if LSB hit Koshi?
No, and I would have moved if I used my ability
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Koshi, is your new item (changed by the hosts) something that can only be used by posting in the thread, or is it only able to be used through PM?
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EBWOP
On December 05 2013 19:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 19:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also am I the only person who wants koshi to tell us what his invention does?
I wanted to create an event with a big picture and normally all this should have been done in the thread. But hosts didn't allow that it seems so it is probably a night action. This is what it does. + Show Spoiler +Please type in the thread:
##Baby: Player X
##Mother: Player Y
##Mother: Player Z
There will be a parity cop check done.
In case X & Y have the same alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Z will die.
In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Y will die.
In case the result of the parity copcheck X & Z and X & Y are the same (either both same or different) nothing will happen.
Do you have an exact idea of what your item does?
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On December 06 2013 04:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 04:01 LSB wrote:EBWOP On December 05 2013 19:10 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 19:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also am I the only person who wants koshi to tell us what his invention does?
I wanted to create an event with a big picture and normally all this should have been done in the thread. But hosts didn't allow that it seems so it is probably a night action. This is what it does. + Show Spoiler +Please type in the thread:
##Baby: Player X
##Mother: Player Y
##Mother: Player Z
There will be a parity cop check done.
In case X & Y have the same alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Z will die.
In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Y will die.
In case the result of the parity copcheck X & Z and X & Y are the same (either both same or different) nothing will happen. Do you have an exact idea of what your item does? He posted about what it does: Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 19:10 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 19:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also am I the only person who wants koshi to tell us what his invention does?
I wanted to create an event with a big picture and normally all this should have been done in the thread. But hosts didn't allow that it seems so it is probably a night action. This is what it does. + Show Spoiler +Please type in the thread:
##Baby: Player X
##Mother: Player Y
##Mother: Player Z
There will be a parity cop check done.
In case X & Y have the same alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Z will die.
In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Y will die.
In case the result of the parity copcheck X & Z and X & Y are the same (either both same or different) nothing will happen. Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 19:50 Koshi wrote:
Ah wait. I copy pasted a mistake. I fixed this to the hosts in a next message so the item should work properly.
I forgot I made that mistake.
In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have the same alignment. Player Y will die.
The point of the item is to have baby go to his same alignement mother and the different alignment mother to be executed. Which...I'm a little confused about. It's like a parity checker/murder thing. But it's only really good for the town if we are certain of alignments, right? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, if we aren't sure if someone is scum, how can we be sure we'd be accurate with this item?
I am interested in if it has to be a "post in thread" thing or a "PM the host thing". It is an utterly broken item so I would like Koshi to clear this up
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On December 06 2013 04:44 Chezinu wrote:
Actually, I know how it could have gone down. I could have visited you after rayn used his powers on you... then somone else could have done something. Then the 50 kp could have done something.
checks happen last as per op
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On December 06 2013 04:39 Koshi wrote:
jcarlsoniv
if you would read the text above the spoiler you would have known hosts changed it.
LSB
Same to you.
Hence my question if you know exactly what it does
I just want to comment we should take extreme care about Koshi, the item he has made is extremely powerful for a few reasons.
Let's consider the original item
The Person holding the crown can only kill someone of the opposite alignment. This is essentially an overpowered version of Vigilante that gets two tries a night. (Unless he happens to check two mafia). This seems wayy to overpowered, but it does have two drawbacks. 1) In the hands of mafia it can increase their Kill Power 2) In the hands of town it has to be public and thus probably a 1 time use before the item is taken / the person is killed.
What does the host change do to the item: it removes the second drawback and instead makes it a night action. This makes the item even more powerful in the hands of mafia as they will be allowed to use the item with little restrictions, in addition it makes the item repeatable in the hands of town. This makes the item all around more far more powerful and I really hope Koshi is town
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Okay so what happens to koshi and what did koshi do last night? I don't get it
Koshi says he made an item (Verified), and implied that he gave it something.
Chez says that Koshi did not do anything last night
Ryan Claims he protected Koshi in some way for 4 turns, and Koshi can no longer be roleblocked.
Koshi Took 50 Damage
Something is off here.
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I honestly don't get / buy most of the analysis done so far. VE I don't like, but I feel like I'm too biased to make a fair judgement.
[quote=koshi]ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.
But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched.[/quote]
I don't get this. So you think that Rean is scummy no matter how austin flips. But you still want to lynch austin even though you are not certain he is scum?
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EBWOP
On December 06 2013 06:03 LSB wrote:I honestly don't get / buy most of the analysis done so far. VE I don't like, but I feel like I'm too biased to make a fair judgement. Show nested quote +[b]Koshi wrote[b/]ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously.
But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched. I don't get this. So you think that Rean is scummy no matter how austin flips. But you still want to lynch austin even though you are not certain he is scum?
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On December 06 2013 05:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 05:16 LSB wrote:
Okay so what happens to koshi and what did koshi do last night? I don't get it
Koshi says he made an item (Verified), and implied that he gave it something.
Chez says that Koshi did not do anything last night
Ryan Claims he protected Koshi in some way for 4 turns, and Koshi can no longer be roleblocked.
Koshi Took 50 Damage
Something is off here. The good news is that I think we should not worry too much about rayn, Chezinu and that cuddly Koshi. What we want to focus on is Austin, VE and OdinOfPergo.
Honestly I am giving a lot of weight to Chez accusation of you, and I really would like him to clear it up what it means. But knowing him I don't think he is going to
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On December 05 2013 23:12 sandroba wrote:
@kush I've looked at your filter and you've called almost every single person in the game town. Do you believe there is scum in this game? Who is looking suspicious?
Yeah I'm going to agree with this. This stands out incredibly suspicious to me. He seems a little to friendly and quick to make allies.
I am comparing his play in this game to the game here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&user=kushm4sta¤tpage=11 (I randomly chose only one game to read). I'm seeing a lot less aggression from Kush and it makes me wonder if he is just lying low.
I mean really, he has seem to nominated himself to be the friendly guy who defends everyone being accused.
On December 05 2013 16:28 kushm4sta wrote:
@rayne since i used to be (sometimes still am) a similar type of player, I consider it my specialty to townread antitown town.
I have an excellent record recently:
townreading clarity 2 games ago in that game where you were scum and marv pwned you.
townreading the n1 and n2 lynch last game that marv hosted
townreading bum in this game
and i am telling you rean is town.
I get that a ton of the lynches in mafia are just a combination of "he sucks at mafia so he must be scum" + tunneling, however Kush is just playing way to nice.
For example check out his tone right here.
On December 05 2013 16:33 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How the fuck do you read some guy as town based on laziness?
Seriously kush, he has ~80 posts and his only read in this game is austin. town and scum are lazy in different ways. Rayne you dont know what it's like to be a lazy mother fucker. The development of reads takes WORK. You have to look at filters and shit. Rean is way too lazy to do that. So he is sticking to this read that he believes in because he happened to come across it by chance just glancing at the thread and it took no work to find. An aside, rayn, i actually love your cases. Like your big long ones. If you make one of those Iwill read th efuck out of very slowly and closely.
He is defending rean by basically saying Rayn is misguided. But the tone he is using is backing off from the actual accusation and spends his time complimenting Rayrr. This sycophantic rant seems more like an act and an attempt to curry favorable reads from people in the game.
I don't remember playing with kushm4sta, and I don't think I ever have. So if someone could tell me if my meta read is off that would be nice. However this is suspicious enough that I'm going to vote for him
##Vote: kushm4sta
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