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On December 18 2013 06:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:I'm holding off until you have more of a composed list (if you actually get it). If the purpose is to catch scum in fake claims, then the scummiest players should claim first. @sandro, my thoughts on Mocsta's life claim isn't a cop out at all. However, the 25 damage that rayn has taken from taunting Moc (or at least, at the same time as taunting Moc) is more of a solid point to use. Rayn - sorry if this has already been covered, but I may have missed it. Just for clarification purposes: you were not able to use your taunt last phase, right? You took exactly 900 damage? So it would suggest that you didn't take 875 + 25 (which would possibly be odd), but just took 900 to the face?
I don't think they would separate out the damage based on where it came from. Hell it might be 50+250 plus 500
Also it would be 50 damage from Mocsta. It only gets reduced if he got taunted by Rayn.
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Oats, Kush, SS, Mocsta please claim when you come to the thread.
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Rayn, important question:
KP targeting you are only reduced by 50 % if you taunt the attacker, right?
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If this is the case: why did you take 25 dmg the night you taunted jay who also claimed tank VT? Those can't come from a caster minion Mocsta.
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This cannot be explained by Mocsta lying guys:
On December 14 2013 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I taunted jayB. I think mafia is just fucking with me and hitting me with 25 dmg and that my power doesnot even work on night kills. Which also makes me useless.
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On December 18 2013 04:27 sandroba wrote:
@kush why the sudden change of heart about mocsta, looking at your filter last night he seemed to be your only scum read and you seemed pretty conviced about it.
nah i still know that mocsta is scum. just wat you are saying doesn't make sense
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Of course after ther incident happen mafia has a reason to randomly hit rayn for 25 dmg. But in the night rayn was supposedly shielded and mafia could never know he would taunt mocsta it makes no fucking sense. Please use your head jat.
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On December 18 2013 06:15 justanothertownie wrote:This cannot be explained by Mocsta lying guys: Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I taunted jayB. I think mafia is just fucking with me and hitting me with 25 dmg and that my power doesnot even work on night kills. Which also makes me useless.
He taunted Mocsta first i believe, correct. If that's the case then mafia would want to hide Mocsta getting caught out. And throw 25 Kp on him regardless of who he taunted to fuck with him and take away any credence that the taunt on mocsta had.
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On December 18 2013 06:21 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 04:27 sandroba wrote:
@kush why the sudden change of heart about mocsta, looking at your filter last night he seemed to be your only scum read and you seemed pretty conviced about it. nah i still know that mocsta is scum. just wat you are saying doesn't make sense
If you do, why not enlighten us by sharing your wisdom? And no matter how much you think my case sucks why are you arguing against it if the purpose is to lynch mocsta? And why are you taking so long to place your vote?
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On December 18 2013 06:22 sandroba wrote:
Of course after ther incident happen mafia has a reason to randomly hit rayn for 25 dmg. But in the night rayn was supposedly shielded and mafia could never know he would taunt mocsta it makes no fucking sense. Please use your head jat.
Maybe you start using yours. Where is the scum motivation for claiming the wrong type of VT? Even if he claimed caster minion he could freely shoot at scummy looking townies. I see no reason to lie about something this trivial only to be able to put extra 50 KP on scumkills.
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On December 18 2013 06:24 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 06:21 kushm4sta wrote:On December 18 2013 04:27 sandroba wrote:
@kush why the sudden change of heart about mocsta, looking at your filter last night he seemed to be your only scum read and you seemed pretty conviced about it. nah i still know that mocsta is scum. just wat you are saying doesn't make sense If you do, why not enlighten us by sharing your wisdom? cause im lazy and i did already but its spread throughout my long 99% useless filterAnd no matter how much you think my case sucks why are you arguing against it if the purpose is to lynch mocsta? no idea honestlyAnd why are you taking so long to place your vote? mostly because im lazy. also im waiting to see who people want to kill, mocsta or jbrundage. ill vote mocsta now for u
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I admit that it makes sense for mafia to hit rayn for 25 dmg in case Mocsta is scum.
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Don't you understand that is in mafia best interest to keep information from town? And if mocsta shot at previous night on the people that got killed or any one looking town he would have a hard time explaining it?
That's the way you would do it if you got mafia caster minion, it doesn't mean that's the way mocsta did it in the previous night. And if you remember mocsta didn't say which type of minion he was when directly asked about it by Odin.
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yeah sandy that makes sense why he would lie.
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On December 18 2013 06:30 sandroba wrote:
Don't you understand that is in mafia best interest to keep information from town? And if mocsta shot at previous night on the people that got killed or any one looking town he would have a hard time explaining it?
That's the way you would do it if you got mafia caster minion, it doesn't mean that's the way mocsta did it in the previous night. And if you remember mocsta didn't say which type of minion he was when directly asked about it by Odin.
No, that's not the way I would do it. Why would he shoot at people that get killed with his 50 KP? He KNOWS who will be killed as scum. Just shoot someone else.
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sigh it's hard to talk to you. At N1 and N2 mocsta had not claimed which type of VT he was. He has no reason to do so as mafia unless pressed about it. He was asked about it by odin and dismissed the question saying something about marksman. Now why would he shoot some lurkers with his 50kp? That would be hard to justify as town mocsta since he was saying JL and MZ were scum and they didn't take any extra damage as you can see in the ambulance radio. How can he justify have shot someone else? He can't, so when 50kp got taunted off him when he was finally pressed about which type of VT he was he changes his claim to tank minion who has no KP (since again, he cant justify not shooting MZ or JL). But wait, tank minion actually has 1.15k hp as opposed to what mocsta claimed 1k hp. No problem he just says he has 1.15k and said 1k because it was too damn long to type.
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Mafia likely has xxxx factional kp. Mocsta wasting it on lurkers which mafia has no desire to kill acomplishes nothing and doesn't buy mocsta any town cred. The best course of action is to not say you have kp at all and contribute your kp to mafia objectives.
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And since mafia doesn't know how much HP people have, the difference between hitting someone for 900 or 950 can be a really big deal. Mafia can't really afford to waste KP on random people when they don't know exact HP numbers/
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On December 18 2013 06:43 sandroba wrote:
sigh it's hard to talk to you. At N1 and N2 mocsta had not claimed which type of VT he was. He has no reason to do so as mafia unless pressed about it. He was asked about it by odin and dismissed the question saying something about marksman. Now why would he shoot some lurkers with his 50kp? That would be hard to justify as town mocsta since he was saying JL and MZ were scum and they didn't take any extra damage as you can see in the ambulance radio. How can he justify have shot someone else? He can't, so when 50kp got taunted off him when he was finally pressed about which type of VT he was he changes his claim to tank minion who has no KP (since again, he cant justify not shooting MZ or JL). But wait, tank minion actually has 1.15k hp as opposed to what mocsta claimed 1k hp. No problem he just says he has 1.15k and said 1k because it was too damn long to type.
Ok, sounds more like it. But you really think Mocsta takes a risk that high just so he doesn't have to fire lousy 50 KP on a scumbuddy who he obviously has no problem bussing anyways?
Also 1k HP is not the amount of a caster minion btw.
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+1 FOR JUSTICE
On December 18 2013 06:43 sandroba wrote:
sigh it's hard to talk to you. At N1 and N2 mocsta had not claimed which type of VT he was. He has no reason to do so as mafia unless pressed about it. He was asked about it by odin and dismissed the question saying something about marksman. Now why would he shoot some lurkers with his 50kp? That would be hard to justify as town mocsta since he was saying JL and MZ were scum and they didn't take any extra damage as you can see in the ambulance radio. How can he justify have shot someone else? He can't, so when 50kp got taunted off him when he was finally pressed about which type of VT he was he changes his claim to tank minion who has no KP (since again, he cant justify not shooting MZ or JL). But wait, tank minion actually has 1.15k hp as opposed to what mocsta claimed 1k hp. No problem he just says he has 1.15k and said 1k because it was too damn long to type.
On December 18 2013 06:46 sandroba wrote:
Mafia likely has xxxx factional kp. Mocsta wasting it on lurkers which mafia has no desire to kill acomplishes nothing and doesn't buy mocsta any town cred. The best course of action is to not say you have kp at all and contribute your kp to mafia objectives.
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