On December 17 2013 05:19 sandroba wrote:
Yes compare that to other scum's filter and how much they defended each other. Compare that to mocsta's filter. See.

Sorry, but Mocstas filter isn't evidence for me as long as he isn't confirmed scum. Besides all scum we flipped this game were lurkers to some extent.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

December 16 2013 20:24 GMT

#7427

He is, I confirmed him as scum. =)
Anyway tell me who do you figure might be scum if one of oats/jay isnt scum. Try to do some elimination and tell me what you come up with.

justanothertownie

16343 Posts

December 16 2013 20:32 GMT

#7428

I can tell you the following. I am pretty sure Koshi and jcarl aren't scum. I think SS isn't scum. I was leaning town on you too but I have to reevaluate if this still applies.
If one of oats and jay is not scum then the remaining 1-2 should be in Mocsta/Rayn/Kush.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

December 16 2013 20:36 GMT

#7429

good. keep an open my, but don't go paranoid. trust me I'm pretty sure on Rayn being townie. I guess you did a pretty good job proving you are paranoid townie to me right now so grats, you are no longer an option. That leaves jay/oats and I'll look into kush again, for the 15th time or so.

justanothertownie

16343 Posts

December 16 2013 20:44 GMT

#7430

Ok, my problem with rayn isn't the pure fact that he defended scum but how he did so. His defense of MZ was so wrong and stupid it wasn't even funny. Either he got totally outplayed by scum this game or something doesn't add up here. Besides that I would expect town rayn to try to redeem himself and I would expect him to be a leading role trying to figure this game out. Instead he just keeps staying in the background.

justanothertownie

16343 Posts

December 16 2013 20:48 GMT

#7431

But you won. Mocsta will be the next person I look into in detail when I get the time. I never got any strong read on him this game and this alone is disturbing enough.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

December 16 2013 20:51 GMT

#7432

On December 17 2013 05:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, my problem with rayn isn't the pure fact that he defended scum but how he did so. His defense of MZ was so wrong and stupid it wasn't even funny. Either he got totally outplayed by scum this game or something doesn't add up here. Besides that I would expect town rayn to try to redeem himself and I would expect him to be a leading role trying to figure this game out. Instead he just keeps staying in the background.

It is odd he has just disappeared. And his reads have been pretty off all game. But I don't see a scum motivation by him. He protected Koshi N1. And while his reads have been off, he's at least seemed to put a lot of effort in - defending people when he really thought they were town even if they did end up flipping as scum.

He seemed very open in the QT with Risen, almost always giving his reads and opinions first. He may have had the wrong reads this game, but he's seemed genuine to me. I really don't think rayn is scum.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

December 16 2013 23:30 GMT

#7433

I am going to bed. In the offchance I die:
1) Use my item well but don't trust the guy I gave it to 100%. I mean, don't trust what the item does 100%. He can lie.
2) All my reads are neutral. Everybody is allowed to die in my eyes. Koshi has 0 scumreads in this game.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

December 16 2013 23:33 GMT

#7434

lol koshi.
0 scumreads
still better than jat

supersoft

Germany3729 Posts

December 16 2013 23:39 GMT

#7435

supersoft
sandroba - Killed JL when JL wasn't under suspicion
raynpelikoneet - but where is he right now?

Koshi - all in all his inventions didnt do much. But he's really trying to push this game - even at this stage of the game - forward
justanothertownie - cooperated with his KP, it was always clear were his KP went. Coags and JL KP are missing so I assume they used their KP with the rest-scum-KP.

jcarlsoniv
kushm4sta
Mocsta
Oatsmaster
jaybrundage

- sorry guys, just came home. If I die tonight, respect this list. :-o

Mid or Feed

Korea (South)250 Posts

December 17 2013 02:01 GMT

#7436

aaaaaand deadline. shhhh.

Mid or Feed

Korea (South)250 Posts

December 17 2013 02:47 GMT

#7437

Day 6

WaveofShadow continues…

“....what? I’m on? Sorry, haven’t been paying attention. But looks as though both teams have been dancing around the Baron pit for 20 minutes so nothing has happened.”

The damn you if you shot me scummers has been invented!

Day 6 ends in .