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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 11 2013 14:57 GMT
#6261
I thought his other power was mason? I guess you are suggesting he doesnt have a shield at all?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2013 14:57 GMT
#6262
4 townies dieing. Did somebody already count out how much damage that was? Because people might have been using ulties to kill stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 11 2013 14:58 GMT
#6263
On December 11 2013 23:52 Mig wrote:
Mocsta what are you talking about. How about we lynch the 2 people we think are most likely to be scum.

Theres still a lot of deadweight in this game.

e.g.
gtrsrs, roffles, onegu, oats, jaybrudage

Do you really want to take a risk with these guys @ MYLO? or have a go now whilst there is breathing space?
This is the age-old question asked every game.

In a single lynch, yes, we must go with best read.
With double lynch, we have more flexibility to "purge" the town.

I am comfortable voting my 2 strongest reads; but I think its a smarter decision to hit a lurker that realistically won't improve their contributions between now and end-game.

Rayn, I do not know what Risen did with his power just telling you what he said. A lot is going to depend on if JL flips scum. If he flips scum then you know that if Risen were mafia he could have shielded him and didn't. So if that happens then I am inclined to believe Risen was just being a retard.
umm... i disagree.
It was clear the town plan was to shoot JL. Any intervention would have
(1) ensured JL death -- which is OK if he was town
(2) put undue pressure on Risen, because how else would KP on JL be mitigated?
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 11 2013 14:59 GMT
#6264
We had no idea what JL's hp was. How exactly would you have known that Risen shielded JL if he did?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#6265
On December 11 2013 23:57 Mig wrote:
I thought his other power was mason? I guess you are suggesting he doesnt have a shield at all?

Every role has at least 1 hidden ability. Risen has not claimed what his is.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#6266
On December 11 2013 23:59 Mig wrote:
We had no idea what JL's hp was. How exactly would you have known that Risen shielded JL if he did?

umm. his HP could only be between say 800-950HP realistically based on KP hero flips.
850 was a safe estimate.

We already knew he took dmg Night 1, so was around the 750HP mark.

Town had the potential to stack at least 300kp on him.
A shield of 300, leaves his hp @ 750... pretty clear something suspicious occurred.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 11 2013 15:04 GMT
#6267
On December 11 2013 23:57 Koshi wrote:
4 townies dieing. Did somebody already count out how much damage that was? Because people might have been using ulties to kill stuff.

Its difficult

because some roles have unknown side effects.

e.g. fuba role + ziggs bomb bounce.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 11 2013 15:06 GMT
#6268
@JAT please finish off JL quickly.

Rean dieing leads me to believe there is probably an SK present in the game, since it doesn't make sense for mafia to kill him and town had a plan to kill JL. Afaik Risen claimed to have forgotten to submit his night action. The 25 dmg you taken could be explained either by scum delivering you 25kp or you taunting a 50 kp ability. Risen and JC have to come in here and explain their shit.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 11 2013 15:06 GMT
#6269
On December 12 2013 00:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 23:59 Mig wrote:
We had no idea what JL's hp was. How exactly would you have known that Risen shielded JL if he did?

umm. his HP could only be between say 800-950HP realistically based on KP hero flips.
850 was a safe estimate.

We already knew he took dmg Night 1, so was around the 750HP mark.

Town had the potential to stack at least 300kp on him.
A shield of 300, leaves his hp @ 750... pretty clear something suspicious occurred.


You say that but we have no idea if mafia has other medics, etc. And how is 850 hp a safe estimate lol. We already know some people have 1k+ hp. If he survived with like 500 hp would we really be that suspicious that he must have been saved by risen. I doubt it.

Anyway we can discuss this again if JL flips red.



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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 11 2013 15:07 GMT
#6270
On December 12 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 23:57 Mig wrote:
I thought his other power was mason? I guess you are suggesting he doesnt have a shield at all?

Every role has at least 1 hidden ability. Risen has not claimed what his is.


I thought Risen's hidden ability was the shield? Or is shield part of his mason power?
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 11 2013 15:10 GMT
#6271
@mig shield and mason both appear in the role description.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 11 2013 15:11 GMT
#6272
Let's lynch Mig and Risen.
table for two on a tv tray
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 11 2013 15:12 GMT
#6273
My bad then, I would agree Risen seems like he is bsing.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 11 2013 15:14 GMT
#6274
On December 12 2013 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's lynch Mig and Risen.

I'm pretty sure mig isn't scum.

I'm finding his points to be cautionary rather than misleading. So I have no problems that he disagrees.

I'm fine with Risen

For #2, Kush is my preference. Could change depending on jcarl - thats really fucked up.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 11 2013 15:14 GMT
#6275
Or JAT, who's been calling Risen scum for forever and suddenly now he's wishy-washy about him.
table for two on a tv tray
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 11 2013 15:15 GMT
#6276
rayn can you please calm down and wait until people come in here and make their statements? You are running around like a headless chicken and it's not helping. I'm starting to automatically only glean over your posts because you have become so erratic.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 11 2013 15:39 GMT
#6277
Yeah i'll just refrain from posting. This game has had no scumhunting after D1 anyways and i'm just pissed off because of it.. I agree i am not helping atm.

I'll post my logs with Risen when i get a confirmation i am allowed to do so.
table for two on a tv tray
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 11 2013 15:42 GMT
#6278
Risen makes sense for a lynch next. He could of used his Q for KP and then just lied about forgetting the shield. It makes alot of sense if you consider that Rayn and Risen in there circlejerk QT were constantly talking about night actions. There is no excuse for Risen.

For a second lynch I would like to suggest maybe Onegu, Gtrsrs, Roffles, Kush maybe as well.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 11 2013 15:42 GMT
#6279
Cheer up, we got coag yesterday and I guarantee you JL is going to flip scum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 11 2013 15:49 GMT
#6280
Meh, my hidden "ability" is mantra. It changes the way both my public moves work. Think I already said this.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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