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JonnyLaw
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JonnyLaw
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+ Show Spoiler + I'm down to lynch LSB. Only thing that makes me hesitate is that's a nice amount of effort he has put in compared to others (myself included). Oh I'm not here but he's trying hard but it's okay if we kill him. You sat around happily until other players started to agree that LSB might be scum. Get outta here with that nonsense. | ||
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Then he backtracks says kur is town. If we're supposed to play the game ignoring this guy give me a disclaimer next time. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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I was inclined to say bum isn't scum because he actually stuck to his plan rather than taking the easy way out and voting LSB. Then I looked at the timing and he literally had no pressure on him from any other source aside from LSB. It's easy to blend in when you can claim you're sticking to your plan. He literally does nothing aside from propose how we ban and tunnel jcarl. I'm okay with this vote. ##Vote: Bumatlarge | ||
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JonnyLaw
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On December 04 2013 08:13 Mig wrote: VE do you think bum is mafia? You are switching off of LSB just because you are lazy or what? Marv/sandorba any concerns with everyone jumping on Bum without hesitation? I've hesitated. Bum put himself out there to defend me when it was unneeded. If he's scum he's not taking the easier lynch targets like myself or LSB but instead insists on jcarl for scum. This only lasts until pressure comes his way then he switches. That didn't read well to me at all. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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On December 04 2013 08:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: Also I really hate the fact Rean comes back into the thread to basically mention Roffles toxicity and ignores everything else. The little exchange between him and LSB doesn't sit right with me in any way. He openly admits he hasn't been reading the thread. Fails to mention anything that's been going on at all since D1 starts when he does pop into the thread. Doesn't like Roffles comment and proceeds to disappear again. Is this how we are suppose to play this game? If you don't want the town to win the game it is. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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I dunno if he wants to kiss Marv's feet or take him into a dark alley and beat him. + Show Spoiler + During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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On December 04 2013 09:54 marvellosity wrote: Basically last time he posted he was promising to read filters and contribute to the game. He comes back to the thread with some indication that he has in fact read the thread (enough to mention LSB and sandro and what they said about bum) but literally has no other contribution of note. He's totally opted out of doing anything today, which fits in much more with how he plays mafia than how he plays town. He seems to have zero interest in thinking critically about the game or doing anything. It reads like he made that post because he HAD to, not because he wanted to. I agree, reading his filter from the nomination game he's jumping on people everywhere and making scum reads. They're not always right it appears but he's active and hunting. He's active every day near lynch time and answering when questioned. He is clearly playing differently this game. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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Take for example when I "called kush a weird dude" I was quickly jumped on by people saying that's how kush should be playing. He came into the thread threw out a couple reads and then posts one liners the rest of the game. That seems suspicious to me. If that's how he plays then fine. LSB's play this entire game leaves me suspicious of him. I know this has been discussed but bear with me here. On December 03 2013 03:56 LSB wrote: Lastly I'm going to policy vote Bum for not following through with what he was pushing. Just for a point of reference in PYP2 (i think), I was SK and I pushed heavily a plan, and I deviated from it as a way to attempt to make sure I was invincible. ##Vote: Bumatlarge After making this post LSB conveniently sticks to his plan of how town would play to the point of fanatacism and derailing the thread. He posts that list four times with most of his other posts only explaining why he wants to mass claim. On December 03 2013 08:38 LSB wrote: I am not going to respond to accusations from people who have A) Not roleclaimed or B) Have not provided a good reason for not roleclaiming due to their role. I will respond to questions about roleclaiming. Yeah, we get it. You made a plan and you're gonna ride that plan into the sunset. On December 03 2013 11:36 LSB wrote: ^Paraphrased. Honestly Bumatlarge is following the basic plan I used as SK from PYP3, first get an idea of where everyone is who can kill you and try to grab an ability that will make it so you cant get killed by mafia, while all the time trying to convince everyone that I have a different ability. "This would have been better for town" was the exact same reasoning I used to try to convince town I wasn't SK in PYP3. I'm sticking to my policy lynch plan. I'm thinking Bumatlarge is SK and grabbed a defensive role as a way to make sure he stays alive. I'm going to pin him as "not town". Deviation from your own plan is pretty scummy since a plan requires as much players to follow it as possible. Again he mentions his SK play so it's fresh on his mind. What better defensive ability than Tryndamere's ultimate. He mentioned having a defensive ability earlier. It's been mentioned before but trynd's ultimate grants him immunity from death for a certain period of time. On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote: Never said anything about SK, just said not town. Good enough for me to try to drop da hammer. My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer He's just lying here about calling bum sk. I think it was Sandroba who said that Bum came into the game much too formulaic. In four pages of filter every post LSB has made is either about claims, the champion list or policy lynching bum. Is there anything more formulaic than that? On December 04 2013 03:57 sandroba wrote: People voting LSB here is what I think: It is only possible LSB is scum if bum is scum. If Bum is town and LSB is scum, LSB wouldn't have taken trynn, because his team would have told him not to do so since Bum was probably going to take it. If Bum is scum and LSB is scum, he could have dropped it to LSB, but I don't think that's the most likely scenario. If Bum is scum and LSB is town and just replaced in and didn't read bum's plans he could have went for tryn. This seems likely to me because LSB only noticed Bum didn't follow his own plan after BC called out bum on it. The other scenario is bum and lsb are town, which is also possible. But the base line is, if you think LSB is scum vote Bum first. I bet you any amount you want that if LSB was scum and just replaced in he would have consulted with his team before picking something and they would have told him Bum was planning on picking trynn. I don't think that has to be true. It's easy to use LSB's logic for picking tryndamere as scum. Eh...he's not a strong town role maybe he'll be around for me to pick it up. I don't trust LSB at all. Would lynch. Why do Rean, Onegu, Coag, Kenpachi and Gtrsr all get byes for lurking? This post is getting too long. I'll follow it up with the rest of my thoughts shortly. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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The first half of it is explaining how to play mafia and soniv being upset that guitar contributes nothing. Gtr didn't post anything, then came into the thread and posted some wiki's of champs abilities. In a game where people spend hours researching their reads I assume they have heard of google. Those posts were utter shit Gtr don't be mad about it. His entire case is just defending himself. Soniv doesn't like how I'm playing he must be scum. So, soniv went from nuetral on you when you lurked then called you scummy when you posted information that's readily available in the middle of an ongoing discussion? That's reasonable. Then when he finally talks about something not related to himself it's a huge stretch. + Show Spoiler + If we are 100% sure that there are 5 scum next to you and you want to spin through them, whatever, I don't care. But otherwise you will be aiding scum. And even if you confirm yourself as Tryndamere by spinning through townies, how in the hell does that help you look town yourself? Why would we keep you around? Gtr says that means soniv doesnt want to lynch scum. He said spinning through the team to get at bum is a bad idea. The entire case is bad. It doesn't mean soniv's town but that case clearly does not make him scum to me. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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I find nothing gtrs has done to be town leaning. He wrote a bunch of posts about champions in league then wrote a case on jcarl that serves to defend himself. That's it. Either league abilities or attacking soniv. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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On December 05 2013 09:43 marvellosity wrote: You were defensive. You did lash out. These are not unfair interpretations of what you have done at all. I saw it as pushing him to make a post rather than lashing out. Gtrs clearly came into the thread and made no effort to read it. He posts well enough in general that more can be expected of him. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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Attacking the person you know in the thread doesn't make him more town to me. He's attacking the person who addressed his lack of content in the thread then saying he won't post for a while. Soniv already had pressure from bum and it's such an easy target. Lurking then posting a bad read then lurking some more does not make him town. | ||
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I agreed early in the game that Mocsta's lurking is not helping the game. He didn't like that at all. As soon as the opportunity came Mocsta latches onto me when Sandro jumps on me. Fine, Sandro makes good cases and got bum lynched. Mocsta thinks my reason for doubting the bum lynch (he called me clearly town when had no reason to not lynch me if he's scum) is a reason to lynch me. Mocsta then jumps on the Bum wagon with the exact same logic. We can't have it both ways can we? Later Prome comes into the thread and calls me scum. Since that point Mocsta's had an obsession with lynching me. Prome dies after that and becomes a convenient martyr. I'd like to finish this point by saying <> =/ [] on tl. <> is not how you bold words on TL. That issue pops up three times in the Mocsta filter. Actually that looks like a decent face to use while gaming. Exasperated maybe? + Show Spoiler + I still think LSB is scummy. I don't know how to link to a particular post so here you go. On December 05 2013 08:03 JonnyLaw wrote: Prome your case on me cannot ignore that early game league discussion. I was discussing with Bum the best champs to pick and ban because I thought it could help us win the game. I started this game trying to see how people play. I quickly realized that with a list of 30 players a lot of which already know each other from previous games this is difficult. Take for example when I "called kush a weird dude" I was quickly jumped on by people saying that's how kush should be playing. He came into the thread threw out a couple reads and then posts one liners the rest of the game. That seems suspicious to me. If that's how he plays then fine. LSB's play this entire game leaves me suspicious of him. I know this has been discussed but bear with me here. After making this post LSB conveniently sticks to his plan of how town would play to the point of fanatacism and derailing the thread. He posts that list four times with most of his other posts only explaining why he wants to mass claim. Yeah, we get it. You made a plan and you're gonna ride that plan into the sunset. Again he mentions his SK play so it's fresh on his mind. What better defensive ability than Tryndamere's ultimate. He mentioned having a defensive ability earlier. It's been mentioned before but trynd's ultimate grants him immunity from death for a certain period of time. He's just lying here about calling bum sk. I think it was Sandroba who said that Bum came into the game much too formulaic. In four pages of filter every post LSB has made is either about claims, the champion list or policy lynching bum. Is there anything more formulaic than that? I don't think that has to be true. It's easy to use LSB's logic for picking tryndamere as scum. Eh...he's not a strong town role maybe he'll be around for me to pick it up. I don't trust LSB at all. Would lynch. Why do Rean, Onegu, Coag, Kenpachi and Gtrsr all get byes for lurking? This post is getting too long. I'll follow it up with the rest of my thoughts shortly. Gtrs gets by saying nothing of relevance for some reason. He came in and made a terrible post about soniv and talks about champions. I would lynch him as well. On d1 I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he'd contribute but no longer. I think he's trying to slide under our radar by claiming to give us information which we can get from a quick google search or the OP if you click a link to the champ wiki. Gtr's been following Bum's soniv lynch all game and I doubt he's read much else. The claim of I'm right and helping town if you follow my lead is bull shit. i don't buy the case on austin. I think sandro's town as well. This is a key selling point in Sandro's case. Austin thinks bum and sandro are town is not enough reason to lynch him. I don't like Risen either. He's inactive and when he posts it adds nothing to the game. I dont care about your beer pong tournament. Is this another meta read like kush and chezinu? Geript you're just calling me a bad player. Not scummy. I'm not bad and stand by my reasoning. I think abilities that affect the entire game have dire consequences. That's why I went from amumu to nocturne. | ||
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On December 06 2013 11:56 ticklishmusic wrote: Oh shit accidental edit my bad. Meant to ebwodp but oops. And for another ACTUAL ebwodp, how do mods choose priority for night actions done to a player? It's in the OP. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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HP is the ONLY notification you will be receiving unless otherwise specified; players are not informed if their abilities landed, if they are roleblocked, healed/shielded/hit with KP/etc. You will be informed if an ability is refunded to you for whatever reason. Unless otherwise stated in your role PM, you may only use one ability per phase. There are multiple ability ‘types’ in this game and they will be listed here for reference in order of resolution (if necessary): Untargetable Redirects Roleblocks Time delay Items/traps KP/shields/deaths Heals Signup list switches/checks | ||
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