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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 17 2013 23:19 GMT
#7651
Mocsta. If you are not scum and you want to prove it. I think the best way is to explain that 25 damage rayn got. Because that 25 damage is SO FUCKING STRANGE. I would almost say that it is "better" for you to prove rayn is scum than sandroba.


It's just so unlikely you got 150 damage the same night you might have been checked by Mig and then also rayn got 25 damage while taunting you. This case on you started with good arguments from Sandroba and you replied excellent to that case, and now it is kinda devolving in a Sherlock Holmes case, but you got to agree that all this is quite strange.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 17 2013 23:26 GMT
#7652
Let's see how this woks out if you are a "1.15k creep"

1) Mocsta rolls siege creep (likely as in 1/3)
2) Mocsta tells the thread he is a VT with 1k hp. (could be explained that people lie about hp as town)
3) Mocsta gets 150 damage and has now 1k hp, tells the thread this can be checked by Mig)
4) rayn taunts Mocsta and gets 25 damage (???????????????????) (Risen is not scum so he didn't tell it)
5) Mig dies, but scum is not pushing Mocsta even though this is why Mig is stacked? (How fast was Risen being misslynched previous day? Scum holding Mocsta lynch for later?)

Also quite strange.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#7653
You have chosen Cho'Gath, the Terror of the Void!

Feral Scream - Cho'Gath is a terrifying Void monstrosity! Every night you may let out a bone-chilling scream to deal 125 KP to target player and check their current HP.

Feast - NOMNOMNOMNOM!! At night, deal 350 KP to a target of your choosing. If the target dies during the same resolution period that Feast is used, Cho'Gath gains 350 HP. This ability can bring you above your maximum HP (to a maximum of 1300). One-shot. You have 1200 HP.

Mig had 1200 HP and never claimed he lost HP. (can this be checked)

I got 200 damage last night
rayn got 900 damage last night.
=
1100 damage. Is the last 100 damage coming from 2 caster creeps.


UM DUM DUM*
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#7654
Fucking Risen. Shield would have saved Mig and fucking Mig would have had gotten my item, we might have no lynched Risen.......


Typical.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#7655
That being said my invention still pretty bad...

Anyway I am off to bed.

supersoft don't forget my question plz. I might heal you at the end of dayphase. :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 17 2013 23:49 GMT
#7658
On December 18 2013 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why in the world would you not heal me? I just took fucking 900 dmg..

secrets

On December 18 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2013 08:30 Koshi wrote:
You have chosen Cho'Gath, the Terror of the Void!

Feral Scream - Cho'Gath is a terrifying Void monstrosity! Every night you may let out a bone-chilling scream to deal 125 KP to target player and check their current HP.

Feast - NOMNOMNOMNOM!! At night, deal 350 KP to a target of your choosing. If the target dies during the same resolution period that Feast is used, Cho'Gath gains 350 HP. This ability can bring you above your maximum HP (to a maximum of 1300). One-shot. You have 1200 HP.

Mig had 1200 HP and never claimed he lost HP. (can this be checked)

I got 200 damage last night
rayn got 900 damage last night.
=
1100 damage. Is the last 100 damage coming from 2 caster creeps.


UM DUM DUM*

Explain this? What does this mean?

Hmm it's not good because you taunted jayB that night.
It comes down to:
we got 1100 damage last night. So we could see scum having 1100 night KP.

Mig with 1200hp got 1 shotted because he never claimed to have taken damage iirc. This is (1100night kp + 2 * 50 caster damage)

But like I said, jayB was taunted by you. Bit unfortunate.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 09:50 GMT
#7678
##heal: raynpelikoneet
##heal: supersoft


Both are imo town, there is no chance that both are scum because scum kp from last night is missing.

So what does my item do?
It heals both players for a good amount after the lynch and it should be enough so that at least 2 of us survive. However, the real effect happens after the night. I am not going to discuss it too much but it is important that both rayn & supersoft don't say for how much they get healed and that they are not scummers because vengeful stuff will happen.
I wanted to make the item a bit different but I couldn't... Best case scenario= both town, Worst case scenario = rayn scum, supersoft town.

I will explain everything in full detail in the silent period. I am going to wake up at 3 am for that so hope you can be quiet about my item till then. Thx!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 09:51 GMT
#7679
##Heal: raynpelikoneet
##Heal: supersoft
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 09:52 GMT
#7680
##Heal: raynpelikoneet
##Heal: supersoft

ffs...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 09:54 GMT
#7681
It's actually not worst case scenario when rayn is scum. Because both have a lot of HP when they are scummers.
Anyway, I am quite happy about this item so yay!

But let's not talk about it from now on cuz I will spoil things.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 17:23 GMT
#7692
Kush/Oats/supersoft I think this is the most likely "doom" scenario for town. Kush & Oats nobody would be too surprised about, really nothing really happened around them. Supersoft 2 biggest contributions are MZ case and the shooting of JL. I put supersoft as more likely scum than Sandroba because supersoft has blended more into the background this game.

I still think we better lynch Oats over Mocsta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 17:24 GMT
#7693
On December 09 2013 11:12 JonnyLaw wrote:
Not today.

Mocsta - His whole filter is trying to target bad play but not specifically scum hunting. Scum. Kush is scum because he believes what someone else says in mafia?

ve - If I'm reading this right VE will return no claims since the first two failed and it takes two days to get a read back. Now he wants to laser someone instead of cop checking two people. The better play is to actually get two cop reads when we don't have another way to check. slightly scummy.

mz - He's emotional while appealing his lynch and the thought that he'll die to the nuke. It's all just spam and calling people names. Another player adding nothing. The case on him was weak d2 and I think there's better options. slightly scummy and derailing.

lsb - After his list obsession he's just been pressuring reads that don't make sense to me. His case on Kush is essentially that Kush has no scum reads. Weak. His case on Koshi is just as weak. Then he just talks about the crown for a few posts when we already know it's gone. I've thought he's scum all game. Still do.

mig - shows up to deal damage nightly and report in. Also could be scum.

rufflez - who knows?


On December 09 2013 11:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
And hey mocsta why you so angry? Anytime something is posted you have to jump on it if you don't agree. You getting a bit nervous?


On December 09 2013 11:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 11:06 Risen wrote:
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
Claiming my role isn't going to help us yet. Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential.

rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three.

I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads.


Lol this is top tier



You've done nothing but post one liners all game aside from one post a couple pages ago. Your read this game is to sheep what's popular then call out anyone who thinks you're scum? Doctor is scary in scum hands as well.


On December 09 2013 11:50 JonnyLaw wrote:
Mocsta you don't offend me. Your posting style just comes off nervous and pushy rather than leading and convincing. What I said wasn't referring to your pressure. That's fine.

Coag could be scum. That's what I said. Roffles could be scum. Voting yourself and throwing out random damage are both scummy. Mig's doing the same thing. Comes in, drops some damage and posts a bit of nothing then leaves.

I don't know how to differentiate between the behavior of those three. This becomes more difficult since I don't think kush is scum. He seems misguided but his posts feel genuine, unlike your posting.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 17:25 GMT
#7694
^ JL talks the same way to Mocsta as Risen. Also, I don't think scum are double bussing for no reason.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#7695
Mocsta went to bed I guess.. Pff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 17:32 GMT
#7696
Oats mentions:

In Coag filter: 0 times
In JL filter: 1 time + Show Spoiler +
On December 06 2013 12:06 JonnyLaw wrote:
Yeah Oats that's exactly what I said. I'll lynch him is transparent.


In MZ filter: Chainsaw early defense with the random "I don't know what Oats is doing" + Show Spoiler +
On December 02 2013 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Yo VE calm your shit.

Also geript, can I see something substantial on oats other than "dis motherfucker gonna die"?

On December 02 2013 16:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 16:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
MZ, whats your read on Rayn since he is so wrong about VE

I've always thought he was town because of his D0 stuff. That hasn't changed. Someone can be wrong on a read and still be town, wrong =/= scum.

On December 02 2013 16:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still fail to see how anything gtrsrs has done serves "anti-town agenda". I don't think he is working with any agenda at all, which points towards town. MZ why are you not calling me scum because i said i will pick a KP-role and shoot Oats until he dies?

It was his post about the quality of the thread that really set me off since it was such bullshit and he then proceeded to post more bullshit. Scum love threads where there is a lot of bullshit and that's what he was contributing to.

As to your second point, I have a town read on you, I haven't paid too much attention to oats but if you have kp and decide to shoot him I'd appreciate we discuss it first.


Actually I have no idea what your second point is about. If you're asking me as to why I don't have a meta read on you it's because I haven't played with you as much/I don't remember you very much from previous games.

On December 04 2013 14:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ok guys keep in mind my last post was somewhere in the 90s pages so I have a lot of ground to cover. I've been suspicious of geript so I am more than willing to consider a geript lynch, I just like to understand what changed to get other people to agree with me.

I'm not being lazy oats, I just wanna know if I should watch for anything.

On December 04 2013 16:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
here's what I got out of geript:

never once does he properly analyze oats and is content to simply lean on his "gut read"

he constantly talks about both oats and jay but never really tries to get people to join him and instead simply tells people to vote them because his targets are guaranteed scum.

The biggest thing I get out of geript is a bunch of noise and posts without doing anything substantial. For instance, he has his main targets but he brings up others on the side and never follows up. He's in that twilight zone where you can't blame him for the bum mislynch but he was definitely involved.

Probably the biggest thing in geript's favor is calling out people like austin and coag, both of whom are low content lurkers. If he's scum he could be bussing his teammates but it's a point in his favor that he doesn't let them fall through the cracks. However the reason why this doesn't clear him is because he never follows up with any of this. It's easy enough to call out lurkers as scum but he never actually follows through which makes me think this was an effort to appear protown.

geript is frustratingly inconclusive for me. He's done things I feel are scummy (hence my gutread) but I couldn't put it into a coherent analysis. This is the problem I was running into earlier in the game when I was looking at geript and sadly bum's death hasn't really made it any easier. He could be scum but I'd rather look into bum's other suspects right now.

On December 05 2013 14:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
rayn I could get behind you on rean. idk what the fuck oats and mocsta are doing but it's not productive right now, you're both shitting up the thread.

Actually rayn I have one question, what are your updated thoughts on LSB and gtrsrs since you haven't mentioned either in a while and they both played prominently D1?

On December 12 2013 15:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
There have been like 0 cases on MZ, where is all the push coming from? Sandro? Sandro has been consistently wrong the whole game except for JL. Or Sandro is scum. Probably not though, unless he somehow found out how to play scum properly

I would love to know as well


In Onegu filter: 0 times
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 17:33 GMT
#7697
##unvote
##vote Oatsmaster
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 17:35 GMT
#7698
Did anybody actually read Mocsta filter tbh? Or are we all lynching him cuz the VT claim stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 19:02 GMT
#7715
Well, got to admit it would be pretty wp if scum framed mocsta like that.

rayn, you didn't tell thread you were going to taunt Mocsta right? or did you?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 23:19 GMT
#7747
meh, I can't help you Mocsta. That 25 damage is such a sick frame.

imo you got a pretty clean filter and Oats would have always been lynched over you if that 25 damage thing didn't happen. But it did and you will get lynched for it.

If it is any consolidation I am voting Oats.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 18 2013 23:20 GMT
#7748
Which is pretty dumb cuz I don't think you are both scum picking 1/1 unless scum also didn't realize that trips go under dubs.
I had a good night of sleep.
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