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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 21:15 GMT
#7605
This cannot be explained by Mocsta lying guys:
On December 14 2013 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I taunted jayB. I think mafia is just fucking with me and hitting me with 25 dmg and that my power doesnot even work on night kills. Which also makes me useless.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 21:25 GMT
#7610
On December 18 2013 06:22 sandroba wrote:
Of course after ther incident happen mafia has a reason to randomly hit rayn for 25 dmg. But in the night rayn was supposedly shielded and mafia could never know he would taunt mocsta it makes no fucking sense. Please use your head jat.

Maybe you start using yours. Where is the scum motivation for claiming the wrong type of VT? Even if he claimed caster minion he could freely shoot at scummy looking townies. I see no reason to lie about something this trivial only to be able to put extra 50 KP on scumkills.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 21:30 GMT
#7612
I admit that it makes sense for mafia to hit rayn for 25 dmg in case Mocsta is scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 21:33 GMT
#7615
On December 18 2013 06:30 sandroba wrote:
Don't you understand that is in mafia best interest to keep information from town? And if mocsta shot at previous night on the people that got killed or any one looking town he would have a hard time explaining it?
That's the way you would do it if you got mafia caster minion, it doesn't mean that's the way mocsta did it in the previous night. And if you remember mocsta didn't say which type of minion he was when directly asked about it by Odin.

No, that's not the way I would do it. Why would he shoot at people that get killed with his 50 KP? He KNOWS who will be killed as scum. Just shoot someone else.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 21:48 GMT
#7619
On December 18 2013 06:43 sandroba wrote:
sigh it's hard to talk to you. At N1 and N2 mocsta had not claimed which type of VT he was. He has no reason to do so as mafia unless pressed about it. He was asked about it by odin and dismissed the question saying something about marksman. Now why would he shoot some lurkers with his 50kp? That would be hard to justify as town mocsta since he was saying JL and MZ were scum and they didn't take any extra damage as you can see in the ambulance radio. How can he justify have shot someone else? He can't, so when 50kp got taunted off him when he was finally pressed about which type of VT he was he changes his claim to tank minion who has no KP (since again, he cant justify not shooting MZ or JL). But wait, tank minion actually has 1.15k hp as opposed to what mocsta claimed 1k hp. No problem he just says he has 1.15k and said 1k because it was too damn long to type.

Ok, sounds more like it. But you really think Mocsta takes a risk that high just so he doesn't have to fire lousy 50 KP on a scumbuddy who he obviously has no problem bussing anyways?
Also 1k HP is not the amount of a caster minion btw.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 21:51 GMT
#7622
On December 18 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
Aw man I'm enjoying my self atm.

I wonder why. You are just +1ing Sandro all the time like you stated yourself.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 21:55 GMT
#7623
Actually I am not sure why I am defending Mocsta (he should do so himself and not disappear) since I don't even really have a townread on him but if this is he strongest point you have against him that is pretty weak in my eyes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:06 GMT
#7626
On December 18 2013 06:58 jaybrundage wrote:
JAT who would you wanna lynch today. What's your top scumreads.

It's in my filter. You and oats are good candidates. Kush and Mocsta are possible.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:11 GMT
#7628
On December 18 2013 07:07 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote:
On December 11 2013 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well better start coming up with something that could have hit us for 325 then.


Heres some options:

(A) I''m not lying. As already mentioned *I* was hit for 150dmg so I am sitting at 1000hp. Mig can easily do a HP check on me to verify I have >850hp

(B) Why do I need to guess what hits for 325HP? I mean, JAT hasn't claimed his dmg yet; and we don't even know the limit of factional KP.
This is a stupid question that promotes zero discussion

(C) Its safe to assume scum hit sandroba with 1KP; thus, why can't they hit you with 25kp?

(D) I could be lying about being a caster VT; and if so, what purpose does this carry if i was scum? I could easily claim caster, and then be all pro-town by hitting people town asked me to.
I literaly cannot do anything.

(E) You are bullshitting you taunted me. If you did, I would have expected you to auto assume I hit you with 50kp instead of voting Risen.

Frankly. I have no idea why you have 25kp dmg, all i know is that I was not he source of it.

That's a good point about caster minion having 850hp, one which I had missed but makes sense. That's why inexplicably mocsta got hit by 150 kp by mafia, so he could explain being sitting on lower health if they somehow couldn't kill mig and mig checked him. Mig's check actually does 125 dmg but mocsta says mig can verify he is under 850. Wouldn't that be 875? Why does mocsta have to be under 850? Maybe because he never got hit and his original health is 850.

1) mocsta claims 1k hp and doesnt say which type of vt he is. Makes perfect sense for mafia to lie about that because they actually want to conceal their kp.
2) When realising Mig can check people's HP mocsta suddenly claims right at dawn he got hit by 150, which would put him at 850 health.
3) But then rayn comes in the thread and tells the thread and said he got hit by 25. Obviously mocsta realises what went on and there will be pressure on him. So he can't claim 1k hp melee minion because that's easily verifiable the next night. So he has to change has to claim tank minion, which can't be verified, but if mig still checks him he will see 875 if he actually had 1k. But the number which is stuck in mocsta's head because he knows he has 850 hp is <850, which he would explain by being hit by extra mafia kp if mig actually checked him.

You got it the wrong way round. He is claiming Mig could verify that his HP is >850 not <850.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#7630
On December 18 2013 07:16 sandroba wrote:
Okay scratch that let me explain it again because I said under instead of over.
1)Mocsta realises mig can check people's HP. Claims 150 dmg so he can be sitting at his original HP amount.
2)Rayn claims the 25dmg, mocsta realises what went on and changes his claim to tank minion because that can't be easily confirmed.
3)If mig survives and checks mocsta he and finds 725hp mocsta simply says that he was hit by another 150 and his story can hold.

Number 1 point is the only thing that explains mocsta suddenly taking 150dmg, because he is caster minion.
Rayn getting hit by 25 is only explained by mocsta being caster minion also so there you have it.
It all adds up.

Yeah, I guess that way it makes sense somehow. I still am not confident in lynching him based solely on that though since it would be piss poor scumplay in my opinion.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#7633
Ok, ok. It also makes no sense that he was hit for 150 at all because town would have claimed that damage by now I hope and it doesn't make much sense for scum to randomly shoot him for 150... hmm.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:26 GMT
#7634
I somehow feel the need to state that I wrote that before reading your last post.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:28 GMT
#7637
On December 18 2013 07:27 Koshi wrote:
Does anybody know what raynpolikoneet his second spell does? The exact wording? I am looking for it but can only find Stand United.

Well, have a look into the OP?!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:38 GMT
#7640
Yeah, good job Sandro. You have my axe for now. I will still filter Mocsta when I have the time to doublecheck if I want to lynch him but it's the best option there is apparently.
##Vote: Mocsta
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:50 GMT
#7643
On December 18 2013 07:47 Koshi wrote:
If it wasn't clear
point 5) kinda gives both Kush and Oats a townread if they can move people....

Not too happy about that.

Forget about that. He needed to claim the 1.15 k HP one because it is the only one that cannot be proven.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 22:55 GMT
#7647
On December 18 2013 07:52 Koshi wrote:
Ugh but why claim melee creep if you don't have a melee creep in your team... But maybe Mocsta really was too busy in his other game early and made a huge blunder??? But I can't believe that. No I think there actually must be a melee creep in the scumteam, but maybe Mocsta thought in lylo it would be too dangerous because he couldn't move people if the melee VT role in his team already flipped and therefore his fakeclaim was totally retarded. He "fixed" it by saying he was a caster creep.

Yeah, as I said before it would be really poor scumplay. Why claim melee creep instead of siege creep in the first place? But another melee creep in the scumteam doesn't improve his situation because those people can only push the person next to them.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 17 2013 23:05 GMT
#7649
If Mocsta is scum and there are more of them left we should probably take oats out next. We can keep shooting jay while doing so.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 18 2013 11:02 GMT
#7682
On December 18 2013 12:20 Mocsta wrote:
Guys. Please use ya head and not just wait fir sandroba to ignore everything.

Rayne taunt damage is most likely the byproduct of 3 nks that night with very little kp left over so they popped it there.

If I was trying to fake claim caster with the dmg I took. I could have easily done it night 1.

This is MYLO. Jayb is definitely the best lynch for today. Hands down.

How do you know this is MYLO? With some crazy scum powers maybe but I don't see how you can be so sure about that as town. There seem to be ~ 1100 KP floating around. I sincerely doubt this is enough to kill 3 people (even damaged).
Anyways your explanation for the dmg on Rayn is totally absurd to me. There were 3 nightkills. This means scum stacked many many KP on them but could they know it was enough to kill them? No. So why waste 25 KP randomly on rayn? To incriminate someone? How could they know Rayn wouldn't taunt one of them? This doesn't make anymore sense to me than you being a caster minion...

Then there is this whole marksman story...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 18 2013 11:25 GMT
#7685
On December 18 2013 20:24 kushm4sta wrote:
the fuck are you doing koshi?!

Problem?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 18 2013 13:00 GMT
#7687
You should visit an optician man...
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