EPTI like geript. Have him as town atm.
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I like geript. Have him as town atm. | ||
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VE, gtrsrs, jay, supersoft? | ||
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And also ticklishmusic | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + [1] [1] raynpelikoneet - obv town [2] [1] OdinOfPergo - unless changed his meta 100% town. [3] [1] JonnyLaw - making plans, although they were a bit meh, usually this early it's a town tell. [4] [1] Rean - aggressive and posting feels genuine. [5] [1] geript - probably town for this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=13#247 Starts scumhunting asap and noticed jay's terribad post. [6] [1] Meapak_Ziphh - good town reads (except for Sandroba) here; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=17#338 jcarlsoniv onlywonderboy Roffles BloodyC0bbler Risen Kenpachi Bill Murray Kurumi StorrZerg Mig marvellosity justanothertownie bumatlarge nyxnyxnyx Mocsta - wants to ban the trap role-cop. why? it's a strong role for the town and not so for scum (because passive). Koshi - wants to ban the 3-way KP role. bad, really bad, that's a good role. austinmcc - posted some fluff shit Oatsmaster - posted some fluff shit, also posting in LXIII but not in PYP. Why? ticklishmusic - wants to ban the GF. says nothing else, no reasoning or whatever. Another bad post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=14#263 If he is not a newbie i'd say scum. [27] [1] sandroba - leaning scum for this post that ends up in "what do you guys think". give opinion if you are thinking something: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=13#251 [28] [1] supersoft - fucking idiotic "let the vets pick first" plan again. you're dumb or scum. horrible post about ban strategy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=13#241 [29] [1] jaybrundage - bad wishywashy opening post, pointed it out here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=17#322 [30] [1] gtrsrs - terrible opening post, didn't comment on anything discussed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=17#333 [31] [1] VisceraEyes - in the beginning said nothing at all, laid back and insecure. | ||
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On November 30 2013 18:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: notes on your notes: Firstly, thanks for having the posts linked. I don't think we'll agree on sandro atm, I agree my reasons are bad, but it's picking the shinniest of the turds atm. It's only a few hours into the game so I think the best thing is to let it develop more. VE is always insecure. Like literally always. You may be right about sandro being scum but if there's one thing I can tell you in a game of mafia is when VE is town. One thing I think people need to watch for is supersoft's aggression level, because if he gets the KP he wants he will suddenly get hyper aggressive. This isn't necessarily alignment indicative but who he threatens will be. I think jay would be a decent early lynch target. Finally, as much as I think you're probably town right now, I strongly caution you against making a pick order like this. You can't control if the people towards the end pick lower numbers and fuck over your entire plan. A variant of this plan is trotted out every PYP game because inevitably the people who are last pick higher. Not because they're scum but because they joined a PYP game to play fun roles. Also while it's simple in theory to figure out who broke the plan, it's always much harder in practice. I will refrain from sending in my numbers and see if you can get people on board with your plan but I just wanted to caution you of the downsides. I know the pick order plan won't most likely succeed because there are always some idiots who won't agree to any plan. However that's my plan and i'll go with it, people agree or they don't, i don't care. As i said i am pretty good in finding townies and in last PYP game i would have assigned 6/6 townies in top of the picking order based on the first ~18h of the game. I can read VE well too i think. town!VE is not wishy-washy. VE here is wishy-washy as hell. I asked him about his playername. He did not give an answer. He had no real opinions on anything, he "maybe thought" some people were town for some reasons. He's also not "happy" as he usually is. I would expect him to be more interested in the game than he is atm. I am not confident in my reads on supersoft and Sndroba but that's where i stand atm. | ||
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On November 30 2013 18:11 bumatlarge wrote: Assisted KP roles. They are stronger with partners. Seems abusable for mafia, but not town. I'm thinking Urgot, Graves, Nocturne > Janna and Heimer, but I'd like to know who would be getting those roles rather then someone sniping them. I also disagree with this. Assisted KP-roles are a good tell. Mafia won't want to (if they get the role) give turrets etc to town unless they are sure that townie will hit another townie. Therefore watchers and trackers in addition to these roles and people's reads are terrific. Assisted KP roles in game is far better than info-denying roles like framer or janitor. | ||
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You're quite obviously town. | ||
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We should definitely ban framer and janitor, that's a no-brainer. I do not get why people want to ban KP-roles. They are good in town's hands and in addition with tracker/watcher or cops they help the town even if scum are able to pick them. Dirsct KP towards strong townreads -> most likely scum. Lynch scum with a KP role that has been used towards someone -> town-read. etc etc. I don't think anything in that post is good or pro-town. Do you have any reads atm supersoft? I would like you to comment on my greens/reds and if you have something to add on other people. | ||
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Odin has serious issues with playing scum. So unless he has totally taken an 180 approach into how he plays as scum he has to be town. Rean is kinda new in TL, i think he has played one(?) game where he replaced out (still ongoing). I don't think he would be that aggressive as scum. geript has the most pro-town posts in thread. I put JonnyLaw as green because usually in PYP games peopl who are making plans early on (possibly not scum cooperation yet) are town. In last PYP game i played there were ~8 people who were making picking plans. All of them were town besides VE whose plan was like "let's not ever use KP-roles" lol. I downgraded MZ, he's not in my greens any more. I liked his reads early on but when we talked about them i did not like the reasoning behind what we talked about and what he did not talk about.. It's also strage he would give Jonny #1 spot. Why not himself? He's supposed to be confirmed town to himself. How about the reds? Have anything to say about them? | ||
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On November 30 2013 20:02 Oatsmaster wrote: you said sandro is scum for xxx reasons. Which is kinda wrong because sandro wont even post more than once or twice if hes scum. Whats wrong with SS's vet plan? So you have not read anything. check. The problem with assigning vets to top picks is that we should assign townies to top picks. Anything else is idiotic. | ||
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On November 30 2013 20:06 Oatsmaster wrote: So you dont think you can read the vets well enough? And what exactly am I not reading Rayn? Of course i can. Read again. I am tired of arguing with you already because you are not making any sense. | ||
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On November 30 2013 20:10 supersoft wrote: you both didnt read well, since it was OBVIOUSLY an example and not an exact plan. Okay i misunderstood that then. Doesn't change the fact that Oats is horrible as if and when we both misread he is making zero sense by saying the following: "rayn does not trust his ability to read the vets and therefore does not want them to be in top of the draft" when i am saying: "we should assign drafts by who is towniest and not by who are vets" that has nothing to do with my ability/inability to read vets. | ||
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