On November 30 2013 21:19 marvellosity wrote:
rayn don't be ridiculous.

You can't come in here with nice ideas about some sort of picking order and arranging players and then bitch out of doing anything sensible because Oats is annoying you. Go have a smoke or something.

First off, I don't think that rayn is being ridiculous. Second off, Oats is scum.

geript

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November 30 2013 16:05 GMT

#446

These are the only ones worth considering ban imo. Tryndamere should be considered very pro-scum.
Annie - Incinerate - Vigilante -- Possibly worth blocking since it's extra KP every day.

Cho'Gath - Feral Scream - Worth banning. Deals damage AND checks HP. Very pro-scum.

Evelynn - Ravage - Anonymous Vig -- Worth considering blocking

Fiddlesticks - Drain - Consistent KP and healing -- Worth considering.

Heimerdinger - H28-G Evolution Turret - KP you don't control. Good for scum or town.

Karthus - Requiem - Triple KP -- Worth considering banning.

Shaco - Jack in the Box - Defensive power and KP-- Worth banning to prevent scum from getting it.

Tryndamere - Spinning Slash - Very pro scum. KP to a broad range of people.

Twitch - Deadly Venom/Expunge - Firebomber--Very pro-scum/3p.

Viktor - Evolving Technology - Inventor--Goes 80 different ways.

Yorick - Omen of Death - Janitor. MUST BAN.

geript

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November 30 2013 16:06 GMT

#447

Might be worthwhile later.

geript

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November 30 2013 17:58 GMT

#473

@VE. What's your read on me and JayB

geript

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November 30 2013 18:52 GMT

#481

On December 01 2013 03:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes. Yes. Good. Good. Geript I refuse to try and read you right now. Jay prolly town.

Why do you think that?

geript

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November 30 2013 20:25 GMT

#505

@Rayn. Graves is a bad ban choice. Scum banning cops will be irrelevant of whether Graves will be available. At best, Graves is a role which a low draft scum may pick up because town are highly unlikely to take it. That's not worth a ban. Banning a powerful KP ability to deny it from scum is better.

geript

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November 30 2013 20:43 GMT

#511

On December 01 2013 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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We can pick the powerful KP-roles and use it as town. We can't use framer as town in any way.
That's why it's a better ban.

I disagree. Because it's far easier for scum to coordinate the draft phase (town plays as selfish individual while scum plays as a team), then scum is far more likely to end up with 2-3 early drafters to grab those early picks.

geript

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November 30 2013 20:57 GMT

#518

I don't think banning any role is a must. Janitor should be obv ban. But Framer is a role that is very hard to use effectively as you generally must guess who is both the cop and his likely target. Banning the best KP power or powers after janitor, mainly ones that are non-specific, multi-use, and/or affect multiple players are better IMO as that type of combination is far better for scum than for town.

geript

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November 30 2013 21:01 GMT

#520

On December 01 2013 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:

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This is easier said than done. I picked like 10/10 in the last PYP and ended up like 3rd pick or something. Coordinating to get picks is hard for mafia to do imo.

My point was that all your team was spread out well to maximize odds of going high. You guys got a bit unlucky to pick many of the oft chosen numbers iirc but still got 2 picks in the top 5. We can expect 6 scum and 1-2 3P.

geript

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November 30 2013 21:50 GMT

#535

Koshi is probably town for his ridiculous stance on Yorrick.

geript

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November 30 2013 23:01 GMT

#542

##vote urgot (change from abstain)

geript

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November 30 2013 23:02 GMT

#543

Urgot is the best viable 3rd option IMO right now. It's not ideal but better than nocturne or others far and away IMO. Also, everyone voting Graves is on my shit list.

geript

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December 01 2013 01:37 GMT

#564

At Rayn. What you think of Mocsta?

geript

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December 01 2013 01:40 GMT

#566

On December 01 2013 10:39 Kenpachi wrote:

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Why do I feel like you're mafia

Probly because you're bad at reading obv town.

geript

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December 01 2013 01:45 GMT

#569

Yah I'm just going to put you on ignore. I don't have a real read on VE; I feel like he's intentionally playing different. As for Mocsta, I don't understand why he didn't give a reason with his random bans. I figured he would've abstained instead.

geript

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December 01 2013 01:55 GMT

#571

Sorry Rayn. I didn't clarify. I'm putting Ken Pachinko on ignore.

geript

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December 01 2013 01:56 GMT

#572

That said I don't think there's much to say before the draft list comes out.

geript

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December 01 2013 02:11 GMT

#578

Anyone who wants to kill Rayn better explain that shit ASAP. He's not obv scum and he's been super active. Reads like town and he's not worth considering for a lynch/nk until we see who and how he pushes D1.

geript

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December 01 2013 02:17 GMT

#581

On December 01 2013 11:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I'm just feeling in a killing mood and he's given me reason to look his way.

Explain why you think Rayn is scum right now. Best bring a damn good case or you're dying before the lynch D1.