PYP: League of Legends Mafia - Page 2

I think i have explained the reads on Oats, Odin, VE, gtrsrs and supersoft.
Sandroba had a really pro-town end of N0.
Mocsta is being reasonable and has good thoughts and questions for people.
geript is a meta-read and started scumhunting asap on N0 and noticed jay's terribad post. Had really good posts overall.
JAT is being reasonable and wants to work together regarding plans and calls out people for their bad posts.
StorrZerg the same.

I don't see your point. N0 in PYP's it's more beneficial to find townies than to find scum because you should put townies in top of draft order to ensure good roles are picked by town. Therefore i have way more townreads than scumreads, i have been townhunting more than scumhunting. Am i not allowed to have 10 townreads in a game where there is like 25 townies? If you disagree with them why don't you tell me where i am wrong or question me about the reads? Why just say "you can't do this".

In last PYP i found 6 townies in the first 24h. So no, it's not unreasonable at all to have 10 townreads in my opinion.

haha fuck I have to agree bitterly cause its rather right but I don't want to agree with it, cause I feel like a total idiot tbh. And being damned, I'd have to submit to your method for now.

My day 1 is by far the weakest part of my game anyways so I cant criticize you for having a plan when honestly, I'm going to be sitting here considering everyone null. But I would say its hard to call everyone in that group town based on the statistics/intuition.

Kenpachi

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December 02 2013 07:41 GMT

#1120

Goddddddddddd I feel really fucking dumb

Kenpachi

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December 02 2013 07:43 GMT

#1123

fuck im going to cry myself to sleep. its almost 3am here anyways
gg

Kenpachi

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December 02 2013 07:45 GMT

#1127

The meta read of how VE goes bonkers as town?
Null cause he can go bonkers as mafia with the right stimulation

I can't refer you to the exact game but I'm still butthurt about losing to his double bus spam with toadesstern years ago.
And I guess he hasnt changed much either :p

Kenpachi

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December 02 2013 07:54 GMT

#1137

On December 02 2013 16:44 Mocsta wrote:

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On December 02 2013 16:41 Kenpachi wrote:

On December 02 2013 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On December 02 2013 16:19 Kenpachi wrote:

On December 02 2013 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On December 02 2013 16:12 Kenpachi wrote:

On December 02 2013 16:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On December 02 2013 16:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY DOESNT ANYONE WANT TO TALK TO ME.

The following people are town:
raynpelikoneet, supersoft, geript, OdinOfPergo, Storrzerg, sandroba, gtrsrs, Oatsmaster, justanothertownie, VisceraEyes, Mocsta.

You obviously disagree with geript but i do not think there is much to talk about it because i can just say "i don't think he is faking it". What about others?

Personally, I think you're blindsided for considering so many people town this early on. So I find it hard to take all of your claims seriously. what are you trying to accomplish by holding hands with everybody

I am holding hands only with people i think are town.
Which of those reads you disagree on?

all of them. what the hell? you're avoiding the question

Pick Me !!
Pick Me !!

Ken (can I call you that?)
Out of that list of 10; is Rayn was wrong about anyone; who do you think *could* be the most likely.

I guess in other words; when you say null; do you mean I have zero opinion or anyone, or there is not enough information to have a firm opinion?

Well like I said my day 1 is really weak.. I can't give a strong opinion on anyone persay, I've personally found myself wrong maybe an abitrary 90% of the time when I call people out day 1. That says something in itself when I'm fairly confident with my targets beyond that :p

I don't like geript however, I don't understand. He doesn't seem all that pro town to me.
and I just mentioned it but VE could be the hardest person to read in the thread sometimes.
Sandroba is also somebody I can't specifically read every game, not cause of anything negative. He's pretty intimidating from my personal experience lol.
Supersoft is the last person I know I've played with before. No read on him though.

But the underlying factor is, he could be wrong on any of them. I was just really uncomfortable with so many people being labeled so early. I haven't looked into anyone specifically cause that's not what I was asking about anyways.

And yeah ken is fine and ken needs sleep

Kenpachi

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December 02 2013 08:01 GMT

#1143

On December 02 2013 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Stop noob claiming kenpachi

honestly, I was just thinking about playing in a newbie mafia game cause you guys are so much better than before :d
I stopped playing after the atrocity of Steamship Mafia, don't ever lynch me day 1 again. God that was frustrating but I digress

I'm by no means bad. I have faith in me to show you up

K yeah bye 4realz now gnite

Kenpachi

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December 02 2013 23:52 GMT

#1579

reading the thread right now: I'm on this post to say:

On December 03 2013 03:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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On December 03 2013 03:23 geript wrote:

On December 03 2013 03:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:

On December 03 2013 03:03 LSB wrote:

On December 03 2013 03:01 LSB wrote:

On December 02 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote:

On December 02 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, can you give me quick reads on the following people (a couple of words will do fine):
supersoft, geript, OdinOfPergo, Storrzerg, sandroba, gtrsrs, Oatsmaster, justanothertownie.

SS - Null.
Most of his posts are setup speculation which is acceptable either alignment at this phase of the game.
I admit I haven't played with a scum SS; but I also havent played with a pleasant one either. It makes me naturally assume something is different. Hes active though which is a good sign too. Yes, null.

Geript - Soft town lean.
Trolling Geript is null. But this Geript appears to be trying to push the thread into a certain direction - using reasoning vs slander. I also like that he is trying to make "look at me statements" to be noticed. He *wants* the attention. For this stage of the game I think thats pretty townie.

OdinOfPergo - Null to soft scum lean
Very setup oriented filter so i dont place a lot value in having activity. Half the stuff hes takling about I have no idea about because I'm not familiar with LoL. Hes also got an early Day0 obsession with Jay which hasn't relented, yet, he seems to be asking the opinion of others rather than talk to Jay to firm up a read?. This is kinda reminding me of how I approached Storrzerg in Mafia LXIII.

Storrzerg - Null
No idea, nothing really to work off

Sandroba - Null
Sandroba is known for good plans as town so its natural for him to easily receive buy-in // propose something conceived pre-game.
Hes also known for lurking as scum. Hes given reasoning for lack of activity, so I think he will become pretty clear over the next 48hrs especially with roles being out.

gtrsrs - Soft town lean
I hate players like this. Troll. Its pretty light hearted, and the joke he made on Sandroba made me laugh, which is probably a good sign - as joviality is hard to fake. Most of the stuff is selfish setup talk which probably indicates town that will be useless to moving the thread forward i.e. the usual TL sign up these days.

Oatsmaster - ??
It looks like hes trying to stir the pot intentionally.
He seriously couldnt think that SS vet idea was good...
I honestly have no idea how to read this guy anymore, he used to have direction in his pushes as town. Tips??

Justanothertownie - Null to Soft scum lean
He is uncharacteristically active/assertive. The games I played with JAT he was pretty timid. Here he is calling people stupid and just in general seems to be on edge. I find he also talks to Rayn as if auto-assuming Rayn is town. White knighting?

I'm still reading the thread, but I don't know if this is normal for Mocsta, but this post is a classic example of saying a ton that doesn't make up for anything. To me Mocsta is posting a lot to seem like an active townie, but nothing substantial but "null" or "leans" that really are just filler and don't contribute anything to the discussion.

##Vote: Mocsta

##Unvote; Mocsta Oops I didn't see this was a response. I will revisit this accusation after I finish reading the thread

So, you're scanning the thread looking for something to pinpoint as opposed to reading the thread and understanding contexts?

Come on LSB, I know you're better than that.

This seems like a weird way to attack him. You know he's better and he's not being better but he's only potentially scum? It's such an odd push entirely. Nothing you've said will force him to respond. What's you're point in making a blah post?

Your filter is really interesting. Harping on a few people - asking more people about completely different people.

I see no focus. I see no substance. I see you looking like you're contributing, but I don't see a whole lot from you.

You started the game out hyper aggressive. Some was directed at me. Some people mentioned that you are just an aggressive towns player. However, as the game has continued, it seems you've backed off your aggression more and have become complacent - more polite. It doesn't sit right with me.

Don't come to me and talk about "blah posts". Your two "votes" have hardly had any reason to be thrown out. They aren't doing anything. Oh, wait, let me look. You haven't even voted in the voting thread.

You're blowing smoke out of your ass, and you're at the forefront of my list.

love. <3

These are good pages, worthy to look into! I have some stuff to do tonight and I'll read them carefully later but for now I'm quickly catching up on the thread.

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:02 GMT

#1589

The pressure is on though.
##vote: geript

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:09 GMT

#1597

I have several hunches on why geript is mafia. A good amount of my argument and stance was elaborated on by jcarls (it's also in my filter if you need to find it).
Geript has been uncooperative also and I don't want him alive anyways. But I see him or jcarls being mafia. Jcarls makes more sense and I'd rather keep him alive in the event that he is town. If Geript is town, I'd rally on jcarls easily because although he makes sense, I don't like his patterns and the way he communicates his thoughts, but nonetheless they're somewhat substantial, atleast substantial enough to call out geript.

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:10 GMT

#1598

so lets kill geript

ps. I'm not VT

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:12 GMT

#1603

god you of all people to call me out. Yeah gut read honestly. Reason being if geript is town, jcarls chainsawed him pretty hard. let that be the story.

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:13 GMT

#1604

I personally think it's better than killing kurumi. If you wanna kill jcarls, I'd let you. I'd be pretty unhappy if he was town though.
That would mean geript could/couldn't be town.

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:14 GMT

#1606

On December 03 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
Like everything you say about jcarl there is the epitome of non-committal, it makes my skin crawl. (that may be an exaggeration but you get my drift)

let it crawl. I obviously didnt explain enough though ;/

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:14 GMT

#1607

On December 03 2013 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
Me of all people? I'm not entirely sure how to take that :>

Idk man, I just remember getting shat on by you a lot

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:17 GMT

#1610

On December 03 2013 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
I've never shat on you as far as I recall. You did lose to my mafia team twice in quick succession at some point though, which made you think I was sneaky scum in any other game we played since.

yeah these interactions aren't very mutual. I don't get a good feeling when you call me out is all I'm saying lol. It's been a long time though, it would make sense if you didn't remember.

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:23 GMT

#1618

On December 03 2013 09:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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How in the world did I chainsaw geript? I pressured rayn, geript came flying at me for little reason, he has looked scummier ever since.

@Rayn: care to explain ticklish?

Well it was effective if it wasn't a chainsaw. I may have misused the term but I saw it as a redirection of the thread's somewhat pressure on you and I didn't agree with your tone and execution but the message is what i do agree with

Then again thinking about it, it's too early to say it was anything specific

Kenpachi

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December 03 2013 00:28 GMT

#1625

On December 03 2013 09:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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Way to stay committed to your opinion, even under a tiny bit of pressure.

I don't like the sarcasm. I don't see why I should be committed to anything so early. I merely offered my favorable resolutions based off somewhat light observations.