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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 12:28 GMT
#5275
On December 09 2013 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 21:26 justanothertownie wrote:
I have an idea, rayn: You got hit by SSs yellow card because redirect>roleblock but you took the full 100 damage because roleblock>KP/heals/whatever.
Does that make any sense?

What.. No it doesn't.

I think it does. Your damage reduce didn't work because SS roleblocked you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 17:56 GMT
#5377
There are several problems with this list ticklish (my role + mkfubas role)...
On December 09 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 10:14 supersoft wrote:
On December 07 2013 10:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
supersoft i am not going to look into MZ because there are better lynches like austin.
I don't even know what the case on MZ is (and no, geript's "case" is not a case).


Case on Meapak_Ziphh

1. Scummy thing:
(bolded)
On December 07 2013 09:06 supersoft wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=Meapak_Ziphh&currentpage=2

First thing I notice is this whole VE obsession. Even though I mostly agree on the stuff you write, it's too much.
I mean, you call VE town and then you follow that up with way too much analysis on this townie.
From what I remember, VE was never in real trouble. Your contributione was unnecessary.
Unnecessary analysis reeks of scum.


2. Scummy thing:
On December 07 2013 09:22 supersoft wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=Meapak_Ziphh&currentpage=3

start of the LSB-phase

On December 03 2013 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
To recap, all LSB has done is fish for blues.

On top of that, he's interested in confirming himself "so he doesn't get lynched." He's gonna use KP to confirm himself like I can't get over how anti town that is. And going back to his claim, I said this early on too, it has the feel of a scum trying to hide in plain sight by claiming a blatantly anti town role.

On December 03 2013 12:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:35 LSB wrote:
On December 03 2013 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
wow, way to complete ignore everything I said, while at the same time verify my points that you aren't approaching this game from a town perspective. Roles =/= alignment, all you've done is blue hunt. The only people who benefit from that info are scum.

I don't you have read my filter at all

Are you drunk?

Because that would explain a lot of what's happened over the last couple hours.

On December 03 2013 12:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB

For the love of all that is town

Stop. Fucking. Blue. Hunting

i like the first 2 posts, the third one is a little bit over the top. Maybe because I think it's going in the wrong direction, because it's not LSB who is the problem, it's the people that claim needlessly....

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=Meapak_Ziphh&currentpage=4

On December 05 2013 00:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also I looked through roffles's filter and its complete shit. He is needlessly aggressive and displays a disturbing amount of apathy towards this game.


(+)

page 5++ starts the most recent discussion and stuff...
All in all. This VE obsession and that dialogue with LSB. mh! well.




However:

On December 07 2013 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Guys I'm about to go out to eat, I want to resolve this now, I'm starting to get pissed off again.

I have the same amount of votes as austin who like half the thread has called scum and the people voting me can't even be bothered to actually figuring out why they're voting me. I'm absolutely done hearing about the VE shit. That was D0, if you weren't paying attention then that's your own fault. There is literally no case on me, I've sat here and waited for one so I could defend myself but one never appeared. I wasn't around yesterday, sue me, but I still think I deserve to actually understand why people are voting me.

I'll try and be on my phone.


I can understand this post. It's somehow genuine
...


So this is supersoft's analysis on MZ. I want to know who agreed with this shit.
1) He agrees with MZ's analysis (should be a town tell) but it's "too much". Well guess what, i asked M to elaborate on his town read on VE, that's why he said what he did. ss does not even point out what is too much, he just quotes MZ's filter.
2) He likes the things he quotes (should be a town tell), but the last quote is "a bit too much". And how does MZ saying "stop blue hunting LSB" make him scum? supersoft does not even thing people should have claimed, why is that scummy??
3) Here supersoft tells why he thinks MZ is town.

So yeah, supersoft's case on MZ is in fact "why i think MZ is town".
If townies do this sort of cases i give up.

##vote: supersoft
I don't really care, that's so incredibly bad i am gonna vote for zz.

Oh come on rayn. Just when you were getting townier again. You really think a case that's not as strong as you would like is a better reason for a vote than what coag did? Also your MZ read is still fishy.
On December 10 2013 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well do whatever you guys want. I honestly could not care less when only me and Mocsta are even trying to play this game.
I'll keep my vote where it is and will be checking in on N3. Maybe. Titanic starts soon so i'd rather play that one fully assuming people are not as retarded as here in terms of not even trying to play the game.

No, please don't do that. You made some good contributions today and now you are parking your vote with some weak ass reasoning on a player who is very useful as town (and I see no reason for him not to be).
On December 10 2013 00:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi nothing you wrote explains why MZ is mafia. This is the only thing even close:
MZ did NOTHING to prove he was town while being lynched. He just showed activity. The ONLY thing he did was ask "why are you voting me" and "why am I dieing". That's all....

But then again, it's pretty hard to fdefend yourself when there is no case. Absolutely noone made a case on MZ. Noone. Except supersoft and his case was "why MZ is town". lol.

Why would MZ do nothing because he is getting nuked? He doesn't even call Coag scum iirc. He just goes "oh shit, I am nuked, ok laters".

Now this could come from a bad townie. But not from MZ who said "Why do you sign up for this game if you are going to be useless and not play the game".

Why is MZ is latest contribution "told you so guys about koshi" while what he said was not was what just discussed. What did he told about me? I am scum? rofl... He didn't even commit that hard. He just said that I was infuriating him yabba yabba. When he was up for lynch I was NOT A SCUMREAD for MZ. He called gtrsrs and jay scum. NOT Koshi.

The only time he talked to me since he "pressured" me was to know how my item worked. And then he fucked off without commenting on my invention or my alignment at all.

Funny thing I noticed while reading your case:
MZ had a scumread on roffles/no problem killing him. Did he vote Roffles later? No, he didn't. Even when Roffles got more votes than austin.
On December 10 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My final reads for D3:
People who can be even considered helping the town:
sandroba
Mocsta

scum:
everyone else
supersoft knows too much.

Yeah, sure rayn.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 18:01 GMT
#5379
On December 10 2013 03:00 ticklishmusic wrote:
Where'd I mess up? I copied the last one you did, then cleaned it up added the couple things I saw since then.

Well you have mkfuba and me as VT?!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 18:11 GMT
#5381
How do you know coag is ziggs?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 18:20 GMT
#5382
I mean you didn't even add the blue claims but you wrote in coag as ziggs like that's certain. Did I miss something or what is this?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 18:22 GMT
#5385
Ah, well. Guess that's fine.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 18:26 GMT
#5387
Sadly seeing this the splashdamage theory seems to hold some merit.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 19:08 GMT
#5393
On December 10 2013 04:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't think this necessarily means mkfuba is surrounded by town. Mafia might be willing to take a little splash for killing off a townie and damaging another(s)

Maybe but that's a generic and useless statement. Knowing the players surrounding him you could give more a detailed comment than that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 19:31 GMT
#5403
Rayn are you really gonna keep your vote on SS? Like, seriously?

Onegu, where are the reads you promised ages ago?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 19:35 GMT
#5406
On December 10 2013 04:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 10 2013 04:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't think this necessarily means mkfuba is surrounded by town. Mafia might be willing to take a little splash for killing off a townie and damaging another(s)

Maybe but that's a generic and useless statement. Knowing the players surrounding him you could give more a detailed comment than that.


Pls enlighten us with more insightful statements

Well, you could have at least added your read on Koshi and me if you say something like that. I don't know about Koshi. I guess leaning town a bit but not very much because he hasn't done that much and because of rayns point about his role.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 20:33 GMT
#5431
On December 10 2013 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 05:25 Onegu wrote:

Will make a case on jsoniv at somepoint in the near future. As I dont like alot of his posts and contridictions.



weeeee

speaking of cases against me, where's gtrsrs?

Nobody talking about some random useless LoL background info so obviously he has no reason to post.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:21 GMT
#5450
On December 10 2013 06:17 ticklishmusic wrote:
I received confirmation you couldn't use two abilities in one night as well... how did JCarl lantern two people VE and (that other guy I forget) AND use the Box?

According to him the lanterns are day actions.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:22 GMT
#5451
On December 10 2013 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Nm, the lantern is a day ability my bad

ninjaed..
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#5453
On December 10 2013 06:24 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 05:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Okay Rayn, let me see if I'm following your thought process here:

1. I knew that Sandro had Fiora
2. I knew he used Riposte that night
3. Despite that, I attacked him so I could get a bajillion damage reflected back at me because of super scummy mafia reasons that you don't understand

Maybe supersoft knows this because, Idunno, he reads the thread.


thank you.

@mig:
Given Coag is scum - what I am fairly convinced he is - why do you think he used his power right now?
I mean he wasn't in more danger than gtrsrs or roffels (if one of them is town) to get lynched. His lurking is equally scummy and I guess the scumteam should have been a fair chance to save him.

Am I allowed to answer too?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:31 GMT
#5457
On December 10 2013 06:28 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:24 supersoft wrote:
On December 10 2013 05:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Okay Rayn, let me see if I'm following your thought process here:

1. I knew that Sandro had Fiora
2. I knew he used Riposte that night
3. Despite that, I attacked him so I could get a bajillion damage reflected back at me because of super scummy mafia reasons that you don't understand

Maybe supersoft knows this because, Idunno, he reads the thread.


thank you.

@mig:
Given Coag is scum - what I am fairly convinced he is - why do you think he used his power right now?
I mean he wasn't in more danger than gtrsrs or roffels (if one of them is town) to get lynched. His lurking is equally scummy and I guess the scumteam should have been a fair chance to save him.

Am I allowed to answer too?


of course.

Speculativ but maybe they wanted to divert attention from another more valuable scum who was in danger of getting lynched. Like MZ for example. This way a whole cycle of possible discussion might have been wasted and town got lots of time to derp its way out of lynching MZ. If Coag can only use this ability once and his other one is not that strong this might be a good deal since coag is useless apart from that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:32 GMT
#5459
On December 10 2013 06:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:28 supersoft wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:24 supersoft wrote:
On December 10 2013 05:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Okay Rayn, let me see if I'm following your thought process here:

1. I knew that Sandro had Fiora
2. I knew he used Riposte that night
3. Despite that, I attacked him so I could get a bajillion damage reflected back at me because of super scummy mafia reasons that you don't understand

Maybe supersoft knows this because, Idunno, he reads the thread.


thank you.

@mig:
Given Coag is scum - what I am fairly convinced he is - why do you think he used his power right now?
I mean he wasn't in more danger than gtrsrs or roffels (if one of them is town) to get lynched. His lurking is equally scummy and I guess the scumteam should have been a fair chance to save him.

Am I allowed to answer too?


of course.

Speculativ but maybe they wanted to divert attention from another more valuable scum who was in danger of getting lynched. Like MZ for example. This way a whole cycle of possible discussion might have been wasted and town got lots of time to derp its way out of lynching MZ. If Coag can only use this ability once and his other one is not that strong this might be a good deal since coag is useless apart from that.

Not to forget all the day 2 lynch/wagon info denied this way.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:37 GMT
#5464
Well in any of those cases it isn't that bad just to lynch coag I guess?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:54 GMT
#5481
On December 10 2013 06:52 Risen wrote:
Turns out I misread my PM and instead of having X50 I have X00 HP. Sorry for any confusion this caused.

I guess this means 325 damage last night was correct.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 21:58 GMT
#5487
On December 10 2013 06:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:55 supersoft wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Frankly, I didn't check the op because I assumed the revealed power WAS the lantern - it was the only one mentioned in the thread (I'm assuming because it's been a factor) so I just assumed that the lantern was the revealed power. That was my bad for not checking the OP, and I agree that it was a poor choice.

That being said, I think JayB is scum. He's been hiding inside this VE tunnel for as long as he's been participating in the game. I pressured him D1 and ever since then he's had a "scumread" on me, yet he has done nothing to actually try and prove it to town and has done nothing to try and get information about "my team" from me. He's faking contribution and I think he's scum.

I think there's scum inside Roffles/LSB/gtsrs, but unfortunately there's no way for me to prove that outside of saying "look guys, they clearly obviously don't give a shit about the game" and that's not alignment indicative in this game apparently.

I also think supersoft is scum. He's typically very outspoken with his reads, and very confident in his reads. This game he's been fading into the background, and I feel like he's happy to be there.


this read on me is exactly what I said about you. it's sloppy.
Yes i didn't play much the first day of this game.
But if you look at my d2, I organized this thread. Why would I do that as scum. Now were in a situation, where we have to sitiout a whole day, because someone claimed scum and has to die.
Dispassionate: It's just not true, that I "fade into the background".

Cool story. We'll talk about it after the claimed scum dies.

Why don't you discuss it now? The "claimed scum" probably won't generate that much discussion anymore.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 09 2013 22:17 GMT
#5496
On December 10 2013 07:10 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:59 supersoft wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:55 supersoft wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Frankly, I didn't check the op because I assumed the revealed power WAS the lantern - it was the only one mentioned in the thread (I'm assuming because it's been a factor) so I just assumed that the lantern was the revealed power. That was my bad for not checking the OP, and I agree that it was a poor choice.

That being said, I think JayB is scum. He's been hiding inside this VE tunnel for as long as he's been participating in the game. I pressured him D1 and ever since then he's had a "scumread" on me, yet he has done nothing to actually try and prove it to town and has done nothing to try and get information about "my team" from me. He's faking contribution and I think he's scum.

I think there's scum inside Roffles/LSB/gtsrs, but unfortunately there's no way for me to prove that outside of saying "look guys, they clearly obviously don't give a shit about the game" and that's not alignment indicative in this game apparently.

I also think supersoft is scum. He's typically very outspoken with his reads, and very confident in his reads. This game he's been fading into the background, and I feel like he's happy to be there.


this read on me is exactly what I said about you. it's sloppy.
Yes i didn't play much the first day of this game.
But if you look at my d2, I organized this thread. Why would I do that as scum. Now were in a situation, where we have to sitiout a whole day, because someone claimed scum and has to die.
Dispassionate: It's just not true, that I "fade into the background".

Cool story. We'll talk about it after the claimed scum dies.


You don't think he's scum?

I do think he's scum. But we can't /know/ he's scum until he flips scum.


okay. I am not arguing about wording with you. measured by the amount of my phrasinginaccuracies, picking this one "claimed scum" is pretty silly. You know exactly what I meant.

Ahem.


Why am I afraid that coag is ass enough to pull this shit as town? Doesn't change the fact that he probably has to be lynched but reading some filters of his other games he seems to be a little less nonchalant as scum. This game is the worst...
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