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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:01 GMT
#824
So what, are you all waiting for Mocsta before saying anything?
Cowards. Give your opinions. Aquanim was okay regarding that already.

Holyflare how long does it take you to catch up? I see you posting in other game. Could you focus on this one please, as the lynch there is a day later?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:19 GMT
#834
On November 22 2013 09:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
Rayn your turn. I want to know how you went from declaring D1 to be you vs mocsta to what looks like a current town read on him. And talk about rean, jampi... maybe JarJar some more because I do think he's scummy but I'm not quite convinced.

Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie.

He had Rean and me as possibilities to go for, with "legit" reasoning. He did not take it. He did not call me retard for calling him out, he did say "i think this is the case, and i think this is the best lynch we have". He stands by his scumread. That's a man!

Please could you read my case on JarJar, and my bullet points against him. Those are really good.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:22 GMT
#838
Aquanim, that's a really bad misrepresentation of my scumplay (i think you mean to say scum instead of town).
No, just no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:25 GMT
#841
On November 22 2013 09:20 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I think you're scum because of your hard-defending of Rean. I can't see a town motive for you to go apeshit about how we're mislynching him. You just can't be that sure about someone that you thought was scum @ one point. I think he's your scumbuddy and you're doing everything you can to keep him out of the noose.
I disagree.

If rayn was town *AND* was certain Rean was town, he would act like this.

My problem is, I cant follow how Rayn suddenly went from querying every punctuation of Rean to giving him town love.

Rean was genuine and not afraid to say what he thought. He was also willing to admit he made a mistake instead of making up shit as i have said. I read that as townie, as i read his frustration on things he feels like he has explained when people don't get it (i know how fucking irritating it is).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:32 GMT
#848
On November 22 2013 09:23 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
I want to know how you went from declaring D1 to be you vs mocsta to what looks like a current town read on him.


answer this


I think i have answered this already. But here.
I wanted to proveoke out a genuine reaction from Mocsta, because i feel like he has not been genuine. As i said, he has been "there there children, do not fight" kinda attitude that strikes me very odd. I dunno if it's scum or town mindset he is working with, and i can't read him when he acts like this. So i decided to kinda "YOLO, let's see what you do here".

I still don't know what to think of him, but i am leaning on town because he COULD have went to basic Mocsta and just lynched me. If i am wrong about his scumslip, he is cool. That's my read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:34 GMT
#851
On November 22 2013 09:29 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 08:12 Bereft wrote:
On November 22 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is everyone saying "rayn is scum because he does not give a fuck about who we lynch as long as that is not Rean"?
How does that make me scum?

do you need it spelled out for you? why do you care so much about potentially mislynching Rean, but you don't have ANY qualms about lynching anyone else in the game? you DO realize it's not 2 town vs. 10 mafia, right? who's your strongest town read after Rean? Onegu? and how about after that?

also, it's pretty obvious so I don't know why it begs repeating, but it's the job of every responsible townie to not throw away their vote and get a majority lynch on a scum read right now. scib, I'm looking at you.

This is a really good post at a good time interval.

The second part is prototypical town agenda, i suppose null.

But the top part is good. Whilst others have conveyed rayn is voting every dog, cat and horse.
This was a really effective way to communicate the message.

its not 2 town vs 10 mafia indeed.

wow wow... hold your horses.
At that time i am NOT wanting to "lynch anyone". I have a big fucking case on JJD.
Mocsta..?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:35 GMT
#852
On November 22 2013 09:30 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please could you read my case on JarJar, and my bullet points against him. Those are really good.

Yeah, the bullet points look really good until you realise they're mostly unsubstantiated by the actual quotes.

Except that i made a big case <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:36 GMT
#854
On November 22 2013 09:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie.

WHAT??? That was the exact reason you gave him a scumread earlier. You basically said that he was scum because he should be voting for you for shitting up the thread.

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On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.

I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.


Yeah you have no idea how i play. But your vote is on me and you are scum so idgaf.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:39 GMT
#857
Mocsta is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:42 GMT
#859
In fact, most likely Mocsta, JarJar, Bereft.
2x scumslip.
1x doesn't read (and mocsta too - i explained my jampidampi read)

this is 100%.

when i flip, kill those people. read my cases please.

cya, i'm gonna play LXIII.
if there are townies with brain do not vote for me.
<3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:43 GMT
#862
P.S. my vote is on JarJar so..
thrawn lead this town after D1, kthxbye
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:45 GMT
#865
On November 22 2013 09:43 sciberbia wrote:
There is 2 hours until deadline Moc. I will vote rayn only to avoid a no-lynch. Respond to my last post.

no need to do that. i will hammer myself just because i am so sure of my reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:51 GMT
#868
scib and thrawn:

i am banking the game on you now. read my posts. please read my posts. please please please.
if i am wrong on this you can laugh at me all day long but in mocsta,bereft,JJD there are at least 2 scum.
100% rayn guarantee.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:52 GMT
#873
also Onegu, Rean and Jampidampi are so very town.
100% rayn guarantee.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:55 GMT
#877
@everyone in the thread right now
explain the scum motivation for rayn throwing a bunch of shit and even voting himself just as it looked like Rean was going to be lynched. Also, explain ANYTHING you have seen in Onegu's play that makes you think he is town.)

WTFWTFWTF?!??!?!?!?!?*

What........... the ................. fuck.............!?! ?!?!??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 00:58 GMT
#881
On November 22 2013 09:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
Rayn I still have no idea what your reads are (the reason for this is that you do not give good enough explanations and sometimes don't give any explanations when your reads change) and why they change so quickly... I liked bereft's interpretation, that you are just changing reads so that whoever is calling you scum looks bad, and trying to place nice whenever someone changes their read on you in the scummy to townie direction.

This is the exact same issue I had with your play when you first entered the game... it looked like you quickly changing your read on me in order to tell me what I want to hear.

I explained my reads. JJD is scum, so are Mocsta and Bereft.
I don't care. I really don't. Read my posts / scum QT from ## game. I was not lying.

I just don't care to explain myself better, i play for end game credits. idgaf if i get lynched.
Mocsta should see i am town. He doesn't, i was unsure of him. After flip i am not.
Others (JJD/Bereft) are 100% scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 01:00 GMT
#885
Also do not EVER let people push lynches on people who defended me.
Like Cora, Onegu, scib.
That's bullshit. They are right, they know what they are talking about.
NEVER LET MOCSTA LYNCH THOSE PPL BASED ON "YOU KNEW RAYN WAS TOWN" WHICH HE IS GONNA TRY!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 01:01 GMT
#888
Holyflare is also 100% town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 01:02 GMT
#891
On November 22 2013 10:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:59 Holyflare wrote:
failed f5, anyway I will not be lynching rayn today


still waiting on a productive post from you

nono. he is town.
while his meta he has suggested on 2 last games is not valid, he has a clue what i do and not do as scum.
i tell you holyflare is totally town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 01:05 GMT
#896
sciberbia look closely into Aquanim. He's saying fucked up stuff.
cross-investigate his posts and earlier obs QT's because i feel like he is talking out of his ass. I don't like it.
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