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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:10 GMT
#696
I started playing, that's the explanation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:15 GMT
#699
On November 22 2013 01:13 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I started playing, that's the explanation.

Funny that.

Town when not playing
and scummy when you start playing.

Yeah in every single game i actually play i am considdered ascummy, it's something you should know.
When i am obv-town i am usually scum. Something you should know too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:15 GMT
#700
Especially on D1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:16 GMT
#701
Onegu should see i am town whe he has read the thread. If he doesn't he is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:21 GMT
#703
On November 22 2013 01:18 jampidampi wrote:
rayn, why are all over everything this game? You enter and call Rean scum, then later shout at us not to lynch him. Earlier you called Aquanim scummy, but you don't want to lynch him. You even said among the lines of "I'm quite sure I'm right on this" regarding the Aqua lynch. Then you suddenly vote Bereft. Then out of the blue you vote Mocsta, claiming that the lynch is between you and him. Then you don't want to lynch Moc but instead want to lynch me, even though you know I take my time with analysing your "plays" (see Nuclear Winter Mafia). Your reads don't flow fluidly, they are way too sudden to change. I can't find a coherent thought process between all these changes, especially the Aqua and Mocsta ones.

Can you somehow explain this?

Aquanim is not gonna get lynched anyways and there are more suspicious people.
I never really wanted to lynch Mocsta in case it's not clear enough already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:30 GMT
#705
On November 22 2013 01:24 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:18 jampidampi wrote:
rayn, why are all over everything this game? You enter and call Rean scum, then later shout at us not to lynch him. Earlier you called Aquanim scummy, but you don't want to lynch him. You even said among the lines of "I'm quite sure I'm right on this" regarding the Aqua lynch. Then you suddenly vote Bereft. Then out of the blue you vote Mocsta, claiming that the lynch is between you and him. Then you don't want to lynch Moc but instead want to lynch me, even though you know I take my time with analysing your "plays" (see Nuclear Winter Mafia). Your reads don't flow fluidly, they are way too sudden to change. I can't find a coherent thought process between all these changes, especially the Aqua and Mocsta ones.

Can you somehow explain this?

Aquanim is not gonna get lynched anyways and there are more suspicious people.
I never really wanted to lynch Mocsta in case it's not clear enough already.

I guess I should be more clear about the Aqua thing: At the time you had your vote on him you were confident that he was scum, but with seeminly nothing changin you suddenly began to regard him as "maybe town". What made you change your mind?

Nothing besides the fact that he was here discussing things with people and didn't run and hide. I still find his answers weak and somewhat constructed. But Bereft and Onegu were more scummy and sciberbia was weirdly just defending Aquanim and not trying to convince people into lynching Onegu. Bereft's comeback was absolute crap, weak, and terribad. He didn't filter Aquanim while promising to do so, and i do not think he would have not done that in case they were both scum.

You have yet to update your read on Aquanim. You don't seem to think i am scum so what's the point wasting time asking me questions if you think Aquanim is scum? You are not scumhunting, you are making yourself looking better in case i get lynched - as i said before.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:42 GMT
#710
On November 22 2013 01:35 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:07 Onegu wrote:
On November 21 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So hey, you might want to explain this Aquanim.
Here you seem to be agreeing with this:
On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
...

2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.

this. If I see one more person go "X/Y/Z is scumteam GG NO RE #MANNERMULES"... (especially when X/Y/Z are each and every one town...)
/rant

Then you proceed on voting for your non-top scumread.
On November 21 2013 08:34 Aquanim wrote:
Once again, my scumread on Rean was of almost equal strength to that which I had on Corazon.

Why the contradiction?

This is the best case in this game.



Because this is terrible rayn, remember how I was talkimg about if rayn believes in his cases or not makes him scum or town. Yeah there is no way rayn believes this. After in WC I didnt vote my top scumread as town, he knows town do this, yes oir reasons are different but aquas reason is believeable as it was less than 12 hours into day 1.
Yeah I commented on how terrible the case was too. Let alone the best case in the game. ANd furthermore, how good of a case can it be if he now doesn't think aqua is scum anymore.

You are misrepresenting me. I said that because i wanted Aquanim to respond to me regarding that.
Onegu is also misrepresenting me. He claims to be good at reading me but he fails to see my point regarding my statement.

My point on that is not what i said there. It is what Aquanim answered me. My original argument was:
"You are contradicting yourself because you are not voting for your top scumread while earlier you said you agree with doing so always"

First he gave a answer where he said this:
"I wanted to gain reaction from Rean, that's why i voted for him instead of Corazon"

Then i say this:
"That's weak, i never asked why you voted for Rean, you didn't vote for your top scumread."

Then he changes his story into:
"But i never really agreed with voting my top scumread but instead i agreed with bla bla bla..."


He is giving different answers to the same question when it's certainly clear to him what i am arguing about. He changes his answer when the first one does not please the accuser.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#716
I could possibly vote for Aquanim aswell, depending on what Onegu says when he's caught up.

Apparently for some strange reason people do not seem to think Bereft is scummy when all he has done is 3 filter dives, one of which was not his scumread who he read over his scumread. lol.

JAmpidampi could you give your top 3 scumreads with reasonings please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:01 GMT
#718
That's the point Mocsta. It was supposed to not be. And it lasted a whole 15 minutes.
And it has achieved what it was supposed to. A fuckton of reactions. Yours is not the most dandiest.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:04 GMT
#720
You forget the part where is say unless thrawn is town. l2r
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:05 GMT
#721
If you read the whole paragraph you can probably have a clue what i actually say there. Why are you failing to read so hard?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:08 GMT
#724
Mocsta is definitely twisting people's words around here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:10 GMT
#726
Apparently asking sciberbia a legit question is "hammering same points over and over again". Well done Mocsta.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:17 GMT
#728
its my job to get a majority mislynch right now

So you are claiming scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:18 GMT
#730
##Unvote:
##Vote: Bereft
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:20 GMT
#733
So Mocsta and Bereft give me a scum motivation to martyr? You guys are so keen on talking about scum motivations here yet you can give absolutely none for my actions. Also Bereft just claimed scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:20 GMT
#734
On November 22 2013 02:20 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn
Have you been mislynched before?

You claimed scum too. Hilarious. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:22 GMT
#735
Both Mocsta and Bereft are saying lynching me is a mislynch.
I will not oppose lynching me, just make sure to lynch those people who claimed scum after that.

dis game so cool <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:26 GMT
#739
No actually this is the best way to go:

##Unvote:
##Vote: raynpelikoneet


This proves Mocsta and Bereft are scum. 2 scum for 1 town is a good trade.
I'll make a case on the third one near deadline. I gotta go move my little brother now. cya later.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 21 2013 17:35 GMT
#741
One last thing before i am off for a while.

Mocsta and Bereft [u]literally claimed scum. There is no question about it. As they are saying they do not believe my actions a wwhile ago were because of what i explained later on, they can't retract from their scumclaims - because "that's not what townies do". This is pretty clear. There is no way they were gauging reactions or something because my actions couldn't be interpreted in any other light but scummy. There is no way for them to bullshit themselves out of this one.

Therefore you should lynch me. When i flip town it is 100% confirmed that Mocsta and Bereft both claimed scum.[/b]
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