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On November 21 2013 23:41 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 23:29 cDgCorazon wrote:
I ain't voting for Rean, Moc. I don't think it is a good lynch and I would need to be handed a very convincing argument to do so. What it comes down to now is whether you are going to support a town circle or not. 7 are needed to vote, and the closest person to 7 is Rean.
There is more information to be gained from a Rean lynch/mislynch than a no-lynch.
Do you honestly think you can sway enough people for who-ever your counter wagon is?
If not, the townie thing to do is secure a Rean lynch - whether you like it or not.Show nested quote +When you say things like, "Corazón has only attacked people who attack him", it makes me less likely to listen to you because you're throwing shit around when you say that. Of course I've only attacked people who have attacked me because EVERYONE has attacked me. Do you not realize this? I dont think all 11 people were after you. And I dont care if you won't listen to me, because your "thumb stuck in your bum" is making it very difficult to read you. I want to think you are town, but the emotional rouse is such a convenient avenue to hide behind. It should be obvious I am willing to give you a fair go, so if you are town, snapping back at me is NOT going to help *your* situation Show nested quote +Also Moc, the time for talking about me being scum without voting for me is past. Either vote for me or stop talking about me. You probably could be lynched today with majority if we pushed that way. Are you sure you want this?
On November 21 2013 23:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 23:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 21 2013 23:21 jampidampi wrote:
How does admitting mistakes make someone town? You seem quite certain that he is in fact town. Especially since Rayn had a scumread on Rean earlier in the day. Basically the fact that Rean admitted he made a mistake makes Rayn switch from thinking he's scum, to balls out hardcore defending him. Wild theory #1(stated previously) Vonthin has played 3 newbies all town. Suddenly rolls scum and replaces out before posting  Wild Theory #2Rayn got his role pm (scum) and decided to replace into the thread before joining the QT. After a while gets town reads and realises Rean is on his team. backpedals suddenly and we stuck with this rayn now who is miles apart from the rayn yesterday.
If anyone thinks these posts come from a townie vote for me.
Otherwise vote for Mocsta.
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7 are needed to vote, and the closest person to 7 is Rean.
There is more information to be gained from a Rean lynch/mislynch than a no-lynch.
Do you honestly think you can say enough people for who-ever your counter wagon is?
If not, the townie thing to do is secure a Rean lynch - whether you like it or not.
On November 21 2013 23:52 Mocsta wrote:
You know what Rayn.
I think we should oblige.
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn
I knew you would claim scum. <3
I don't even care if you lynch me but i suggest everyone looks at this post when i flip!!!
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See Corazon? How good am i? :D
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Mocsta answer my case on you. Please.
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On November 21 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +7 are needed to vote, and the closest person to 7 is Rean.
There is more information to be gained from a Rean lynch/mislynch than a no-lynch.
Do you honestly think you can say enough people for who-ever your counter wagon is?
If not, the townie thing to do is secure a Rean lynch - whether you like it or not. Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 23:52 Mocsta wrote:
You know what Rayn.
I think we should oblige.
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn I knew you would claim scum. <3 I don't even care if you lynch me but i suggest everyone looks at this post when i flip!!!
I just proved you wrong. And you are going against what you suggested ~10min ago.
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On November 22 2013 00:01 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:7 are needed to vote, and the closest person to 7 is Rean.
There is more information to be gained from a Rean lynch/mislynch than a no-lynch.
Do you honestly think you can say enough people for who-ever your counter wagon is?
If not, the townie thing to do is secure a Rean lynch - whether you like it or not. On November 21 2013 23:52 Mocsta wrote:
You know what Rayn.
I think we should oblige.
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn I knew you would claim scum. <3 I don't even care if you lynch me but i suggest everyone looks at this post when i flip!!! I just proved you wrong. And you are going against what you suggested ~10min ago. OK, guilty as charged. Apologies, I was confused - I thought you said you wrote a case? I didnt see anything about why this is indicative of a scum mindset.
Your first suggestion is scummy as hell. You are shutting down discussion because people "need to consolidate". The suggestion is also incorrect and that's what i wanted to show you.
##Unvote:
I suggest, Mocsta, ifyou are town you never make those kinda bullshit suggestions in a game where i am playing. I also suggest you don't make bullshit cases based on why someone might have been replaced out of a game and how someone might not have read scum QT or other bullshit. I could make a case on you where i say "WILD THEORY; Mocsta has played so bad as scum lately so he needs to change his playstyle completely to survive even N1. Therefore he is scum hue hue." Do you see why your posts on the last page are terribad? Please stop if you are town.
Now i do not want to lynch Rean. I think he has been genuine and cooperative and stated clearly who he wants to lynch on D1. That's more than 8 other players in this game have done.
Now can we discuss the lynch?
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thrawn i am reading jampidampi now.
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I could lynch jampidampi. His reasoning for voting for Aquanim is no longer valid unless he debunks Aqua's defense, which he has not done. When he comes back he doesn't update his read on his top scumread, instead he throws some irrational posts on him.
##Vote: Jampidampi
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Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.
I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.
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Considering not voting for me by the last 10 posts is townie? Really Mocsta everyone should have instantly put their votes on me based purely on policy until i stop or if don't lynch me.
Him "thinking about the situation" makes zero sense.
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Why the fuck are you continuously quoting some arbitary scum QT Mocsta?
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You are sure me and Jampidampi are scum. I have my vote on Jampidampi.
win-win, let's lynch him then.
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On November 22 2013 00:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
If this game is going to turn into a "who has a bigger dick" competition between Mocsta/Rayn and their supporters, we are going to lose.
Neither of you needed to blow up there. Go take a break and come back in 2-3 hours please.
I don't needa break, i have a clear head. But look at this Corazon. Mocsta was selling people "we can't lynch anyone but Rean you all need to put your votes on him yaddayadda..". There are some people like thrawn who throw out some other arbitary names "i could also lynch this guy but consolidation yadda yadda..".
What happens when this is not the case any more? Suddenly people are not wanting to lynch the people they were okay with lynching any more. Mocsta and thrawn both are saying i am scum with Jampidampi. I have my vote on him. Suddenly Jampidampi is not a good lynch any more. Why? Because rayn is scum with him? rofl. I do this kinda shit once in a while. Suddenly all the thread goes silent. Why? Because Rean lynch was comfortable for scum, now the situation is no more comfortable. If thrawn and Mocsta think rayn is scum with Jampidampi why are they not willing to lynch him now? We are both scum (except that i am not), why not lynch jampi then? Oh i was scum with Rean too, but he's off the table too.
I do this shit often as town, i also stop it quite quick. At least Mocsta should be very aware of this even if he doesn't agree it's wise.
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One of the reasons i think Rean is not scum is that Mocsta and thrawn as self-proclaimed masons are driving the discussion in this thread, or have been. There has been no real resistance to Rean's lynch (no, i have not resisted it for real - until now). If Rean is town (and i am like 90% sure of it) i am pretty sure one of Mocsta / thrawn is scum.
sciberbia didn't really try to get Onegu lynched, he diid not try to really convince people into lynching Onegu.
I have not tried to really convince people into lynching other people, i have just said i don't think Rean is scum.
Noone else has not really tried to push any other lynch, besides Rean. Do you guys really think if i was scum and Rean was scum that's what i would do / allow to happen? Mocsta? thrawn? Like really? If i was scum i could make a quite convincing case on anyone in this game if i wanted. And that is a fact. But i won't, because i am not scum.
And i don't think Rean is scum either.
If i failed with my stir up the thread then fine, vote for me. When i flip town look closely into Mocsta & thrawn, because then you can take my word for Rean being town. If you want to lynch Rean, fine. Do it. But when he flips town look closely into Mocsta / thrawn, because one of them is scum. If Rean flips scum i admit i am really bad at playing mafia or mafia has to be Lonemeow & Jampidampi and scum just did have no thread precense. In that case we should still lynch Jampidampi.
So that's my take on things going on here. Make your best shot. If it's me i don't care. But if that's the case remember what i said.
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On November 22 2013 00:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So Rayn,
Jampi is scummy because he didn't jump on a vote for you when you made yourself so lynchable.
And Mocs is scummy because he did jump on a vote for you for that exact reason
Am I getting that right???
No you are not getting that right.
But it's irrelevant.
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On November 22 2013 00:47 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 00:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn, you don't need to explain to me how you feel. I can read.
We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way? Why do you think that is the situation at hand? Cause you and Rayn now want each other dead. And both of those lunches are stupid.
I don't want Mocsta dead. Read my last biggish post please.
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On November 22 2013 00:49 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2013 00:47 cDgCorazon wrote:On November 22 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 00:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn, you don't need to explain to me how you feel. I can read.
We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way? Why do you think that is the situation at hand? Cause you and Rayn now want each other dead. And both of those lunches are stupid. I don't want Mocsta dead. Read my last biggish post please. THEN WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM. Why did you want him dead and then change your mind?
Because of what i just said. I don't know his alignment.
But look at what happened. Everyone was happily "discussing things" (while people were not even really discussing anythig relevant). Does that to you look like town is heading to a scum lynch? When noone is opposing the lynch?
Suddenly, when the things are not so clear any more, where is Aquanim now? Where is Bereft? The were living happily ever after with the thread here but where are they now? "yo i put my vote here on rayn and disappear". Is that a townie mindset? To disappear when there actually is something to discuss - besides "let's all put our votes on Rean and hold hands"?
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On November 22 2013 00:54 Mocsta wrote:
Its 2am for aquanim , which means its prob lunch time for bereft
OR they could be threading diving.
Grasping here rayn.. majorly.
And you were perfectly fine with Bereft calling me out when i went to bed 6:30 AM?
Also why do you oppose Jampidampi lynch? I thought we were scumbuddies?
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Your contributions are really weak atm Mocsta. They are all based on some arbitaryscumchat or you are contradicting yourself. You are also too nice overall, and that is worrying me a lot. Given what happened in the last game it's worrying me even more.
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If you are a town leader as you have acted like and think i am the best lynch then fucking convince people of it. If you think Rean is the best lynch convince people of it. You will be held accountable for your actions anyways. thrawn acts like a town leader but when shit gets real he takes the easy way out, and that is bullshit, ecpecially considering the dude claims he can read me. Either he has no clue what he is talking about or he is scum.
I want to lynch Jampidampi because i think he is scum and Rean is not. In case you, Mocsta, think i am scum i suggest you join the wagon because if you lynch me you'll see a town flip and then you are in deep shit because you failed to listen to the town leader you are supposed to be good at reading and you did not lynch "his 100% scumbuddy" you were okay with lynching with before. Same can be said about thrawn.
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