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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 03:39 GMT
#502
On November 21 2013 12:35 sciberbia wrote:
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On November 21 2013 12:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 21 2013 12:24 sciberbia wrote:
@Mocsta
Scum agenda: lynch ANYONE but me (or my scumbuddies)
Town agenda: pinpoint a scum and lynch him

The easiest way to tell which agenda aquanim is pursuing is by looking at how interested he is in who exactly gets lynched other than him. Due to his posts on Cora, Rean, and Onegu, it looks to me like it is interested in who precisely his counterwagon is, which is indicative of a town mindset.

Now i would not say that. Look again into his conclusions.


Not sure what you're trying to suggest. His conclusion seems to be Rean > Onegu > Cora > others. I don't see anything terribly suspicious about those conclusions. What do you expect him to do? Come up with town reads on all the other lynch candidates? They are lynch candidates for a reason. It only makes sense that he would find them all scummy to some degree. The point is that he has at least looked into them and has clear preferences among them.

Rean:
Again, I have no conclusive evidence that Rean is scum, but I'm more confident about him than Corazon. His point against sciberbia really smells to me.

Corazon:
Summary of my read on Corazon: I can believe everything Corazon's done so far from a scum Corazon or a town Corazon, though I feel the scum explanation is more likely. I'd prefer to wait for another day to lynch him and try to put together a more conclusive read on him. I'd certainly prefer to lynch him before most people in this game.

Onegu:
Conclusion: Definitely need to see more effort. If it's not forthcoming, I think he's a decent lynch today, though I'd still prefer Rean or maybe Cora. If he does offer some more reads, activity, etc. I think he could then at least wait for another day.

What i read is "i can lynch any of these guys".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 03:53 GMT
#510
Aquanim do you have a feeling sciberbia is trying to convince you into lynching Onegu or what is your interpretation of what he is trying to do when he is talking with you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 03:59 GMT
#511
sciberbia could you share some insight in why are you so eager to defend Aquanim and why do you think he can't defend himself? In my opinion you should be trying to convince us to lynch Onegu as he seems to be your top lynch target. Instead of doing that you defend aqua - defend aqua - point out Rean's bad post - defend aqua.

The dude can defend himself if he is town, it's not your job. Your job is - if you are town - to tell us why lynching Onegu is the right way to go in case you think he is the best lynch.

atm you are doing anything else but that. Kinda makes me wonder why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 04:19 GMT
#518
##Unvote
##Vote: Bereft

You stated Onegu is your town read. You filter four guys. Three which are your scumreads, and Onegu, your town read.
That makes no sense given you have null-reads you should be filtering over your townreads in case you are trying to find scum.
You are just following thread sentiment and it makes no sense. In fact you never even filter Aqua and Onegu after promising to do so.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 04:49 GMT
#529
I want to lynch Bereft for the way he prioritizes things. That's fucking scummy. Notice Aqua was one of his three scumreads to filter. Now he has filtered Rean/Cora, has his vote on Rean, and defended Onegu's posts. He hasn't even read all his scumread's filters yet there is already a vote. A big no.
Now sleep.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 13:26 GMT
#582
Mocsta what's your opinion of thrawn's post about me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 13:29 GMT
#583
I am also telling you Rean will not flip scum so good luck with that, i won't be voting for him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 13:56 GMT
#586
On November 21 2013 22:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On November 21 2013 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also telling you Rean will not flip scum so good luck with that, i won't be voting for him.


Can you do jampidampi?

I would like to lynch you tbh if you ever claim you know how i play after this post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:01 GMT
#587
wow this days lynch is apparently gonna be shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:13 GMT
#591
So about evey player in this game is suspicious about Onegu, except for Bereft. sciberbia makes a case on Onegu. Everyone says Onegu is a really good lynch. Bereft comes in and instead of filtering his scumreads he stops at 2/3, and votes for Rean (yes, he never filtered Aqua at all and that is bullshit). Instead of filtering Aqua he filters Onegu, his townread, picks up some random posts and "yes, Onegu is town". Again bullshit.

Then Mocsta defends Onegu on "suicidal behavior". Guess what Onegu did in ##'s game when he replaced in as scum? He did a fucking case on a confirmed townie and marv & Koshi insta-lynched him. After that everyone seems to be having a town read on Onegu. Suddenly also everyone seems to be having a some sort of scumread on me based on bullshit like "rayn didn't answer Mocsta when Mocsta asks are Rean & Aquanim bussing each other". lolololol. 10 fucking hours into the game when there are like 2 votes casted. Why the fuck wouldi care about it at that point? thrawn can't read me for shit or he is scum, leaning on latter.

Bereft is probably scum for his bullshit entrance and over-defensiveness when i called him scum. I dunno, Mocsta is probably just Mocsta and i don't really care about him now (hint thrawn: i never care about 90% what Mocsta says on D1 because as either alignment he can say wtf he wants).

So yeah, i am gonna vote for Onegu or Bereft. Aquanim could be town, but Rean is a mislynch. Go for it if you want but i am gonna lynch thrawn on D2 if you lynch Rean because thrawn is spewing bullshit and he knows better than this.

Vote stands on Bereft, will be swithching to Onegu, not onto anyone else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:17 GMT
#595
The difference between Aquanim and Rean is both have made bad posts & contradicted themselves but unlike Aquanim, Rean admits he made a mistake or worded his thought poorly when it's pointed out. Aquanim makes up new reasons for his argument or licks strong players asses to make himself look better to them. And that is a fucking fact.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:21 GMT
#598
I would vote for Aquanim over Rean anyday but i don't think he is scum either. Unless thrawn is town, in which case he should swithc his vote on Aqua/Bereft/Onegu right now because those are the scummiest people in thread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:24 GMT
#600
On November 21 2013 23:21 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The difference between Aquanim and Rean is both have made bad posts & contradicted themselves but unlike Aquanim, Rean admits he made a mistake or worded his thought poorly when it's pointed out. Aquanim makes up new reasons for his argument or licks strong players asses to make himself look better to them. And that is a fucking fact.

How does admitting mistakes make someone town? You seem quite certain that he is in fact town.

Because townies don't have to make shit up. I am not saying it makes him town but it makes him more town than a guy who makes shit up intead of admitting they were wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:29 GMT
#604
But i don't really care. I find Rean's defences and actions townie, apparently he was incapable of proving himself to you. Go ahead and vote for him. I can't defend him more than what i said.

Mocsta and thrawn should know better. Well maybe not Mocsta but thrawn who defends people like Hopeless based on when they say " ". I'll make sure i will (or in case i get shot on N1 you will) lynch thrawn on D2 if this Rean lynch happens because i can't fight against it by myself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:36 GMT
#613
My case is not bullshit and people are mislynching right now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:40 GMT
#615
On November 21 2013 23:35 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The difference between Aquanim and Rean is both have made bad posts & contradicted themselves but unlike Aquanim, Rean admits he made a mistake or worded his thought poorly when it's pointed out. Aquanim makes up new reasons for his argument or licks strong players asses to make himself look better to them. And that is a fucking fact.

Wow.. we are not on the same page.

The difference is Aquanim is not confident but continues to be an open book - allowing you to keep provoking him.
Rean on the other hand answers the questions to the point and delivers nothing more.

I know i find the latter more scummy, so should you.

So when everyone has a townread on Aquanim (besides me - from the influential players), mafia!Rean continues to tunnel on Aqua and does not consider any other player worth lynching?

In comparsion Aquanim is open for lynching for anyone who was suspicious for thread sentiment.

Yo Mocsta you need to learn on how to play scum if you think that's a good way to go for mafia!Rean. Also those dudes who play live mafia have way better "on the fly bullshitting capabilities". Also Aquanim says very little in his posts.

But i don't care, i just lynch thrawn on D2 if he let's this lynch happen. I am telling you Rean is town and if thrawn is incapable of seeing that he is most likely scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:41 GMT
#616
On November 21 2013 23:36 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The difference between Aquanim and Rean is both have made bad posts & contradicted themselves but unlike Aquanim, Rean admits he made a mistake or worded his thought poorly when it's pointed out. Aquanim makes up new reasons for his argument or licks strong players asses to make himself look better to them. And that is a fucking fact.

You're entitled to your opinion of my play. I claim you're full of shit and that I don't "lick strong players asses" - I may agree with them sometimes, but only people like you never agree with strong players under any conditions.

Regardless, if this is a comment on my style of play rather than you claiming anything about my alignment it can wait until postgame.

If "Please Moscta and sciberbia ask me anything and i'll give you my best answers" is not licking strong players asses then you don't know the meaning of the phrase in this occasion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:42 GMT
#618
Aquanim i am not even saying you are scum because you are not on top of my scumlist.
I want to lynch Bereft or Onegu, i don't care which one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:44 GMT
#621
Mocsta stop with that "no other lynch is gonna happen" bullshit. Instead of telling people to vote for someone based on "so we get a lynch trough" you should convince them that the person is scum. You are better than this, wtf are you doing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 21 2013 14:46 GMT
#622
##Unvote:
##Vote: Mocsta

Now he's just full of shit.

Today you are gonna lynch me or Mocsta. If you lynch me then you lynch Mocsta on D2. Thanks.
If you don't lynch me or Mocsta today i will spam the thread with bullshit as long as i live like he is doing atm.
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